BMW M135i - End of Production (July 2016)

[M3Driver]

I was visiting my local dealer with a view to changing my car yesterday, and I was looking at a couple of different options. One was replacing my current M135i.

I'd heard a couple of rumours that the M135i would be replaced by a new M140i at some point, with a B58 engine replacing the N55, however there wasn't any official confirmation of that, just rumours.

I asked salesman about this and he confirmed that it only allowed him to schedule an M135i build up until July this year, but any M135i's in the system currently had been marked as a "non-fulfilment" so they wouldn't be put forward to build stage. He surmised that this was because they would be discontinued prior to introduction of the M140i.

I'll be interested to see what this brings come Autumn time. Whether the badge and the B58 is the only thing that changes, or if there is anything else. It will also be interesting to see if BMW continue to offer the same UK support on it, or if they treat it as a new model with limited support.

[harrisp]

A local dealer, told us that we can order an m140i from July for September delivery but couldn't give us any more details except that it will have the same engine as the 340i.
We was going to order a new m135i but was put off by the fact it was being replaced soon after.

[M3Driver]

Interesting! I wish BMW would announce the M140i at least, even if they don't put it on their configurator yet, especially if they've quietly discontinued the previous model.

I need to order something by the beginning of February to ensure I get delivery in the middle of May... so I want to be completely decided by the end of the year so that all I need to do is look for the right price.

Now comes the tricky bit of deciding what I want... at the moment it seems to be between a Golf R, M140i, or M3 Comp Pack. I'd take any of them but will probably just see what I can get the best deal on.

[aeropilot]

M3Driver said:

Interesting! I wish BMW would announce the M140i at least, even if they don't put it on their configurator yet, especially if they've quietly discontinued the previous model.

I need to order something by the beginning of February to ensure I get delivery in the middle of May... so I want to be completely decided by the end of the year so that all I need to do is look for the right price.

Now comes the tricky bit of deciding what I want... at the moment it seems to be between a Golf R, M140i, or M3 Comp Pack. I'd take any of them but will probably just see what I can get the best deal on.

If going for the M3 Comp Pack, wouldn't it be more prudent to order earlier to beat the 1st April VED changes which will have a big impact on VED for cars that cost over £45k....?
Unless it's a company car of course in which case - carry on

[M3Driver]

No, it will be a private car. I wasn't aware there were going to be changes to VED... Tell me more...

[aeropilot]

M3Driver said:

No, it will be a private car. I wasn't aware there were going to be changes to VED... Tell me more...

I got it wrong, it's cars costing more than £40k that suffer the most.

See here:-

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-20...

[HoHoHo]

aeropilot said:

M3Driver said:

No, it will be a private car. I wasn't aware there were going to be changes to VED... Tell me more...

I got it wrong, it's cars costing more than £40k that suffer the most.

See here:-

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-20...

Yep, look forward to a massive jump in VED for the first 5 years!

[R8Steve]

I ordered an M135i from Gateway2Lease the other week with a estimated lead time of 8-10 weeks so this does concern me somewhat.

[as7920]

Keep an eye out for BMW Press Group press releases.

Summer Updates are scheduled for this week if history tells us anything.

Last years updates release was published on 12th May.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/united-kingdom
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global

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[JNW1]

aeropilot said:

I got it wrong, it's cars costing more than £40k that suffer the most.

See here:-

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-20...

Does the £40k apply to the list price of the basic car or the list price of the car including options? I'm assuming the former as it would seem crazy to have a car with a list price of (say) £39k and then end-up paying higher tax just because you've specced a few extras which have no environmental impact whatsoever! I'm guessing that using the price including options would also be more of a hassle from an admin point of view as potentially every invoice would need to be checked to see ensure the list price hadn't gone over £40k - much easier if you just use the list price for the basic car!

[HoHoHo]

JNW1 said:

aeropilot said:

I got it wrong, it's cars costing more than £40k that suffer the most.

See here:-

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-20...

Does the £40k apply to the list price of the basic car or the list price of the car including options? I'm assuming the former as it would seem crazy to have a car with a list price of (say) £39k and then end-up paying higher tax just because you've specced a few extras which have no environmental impact whatsoever! I'm guessing that using the price including options would also be more of a hassle from an admin point of view as potentially every invoice would need to be checked to see ensure the list price hadn't gone over £40k - much easier if you just use the list price for the basic car!

My understanding is £40k is the threshold of the RRP including extras.

£39000 car plus £1200 sat nav......big bill

[JNW1]

HoHoHo said:

JNW1 said:

aeropilot said:

I got it wrong, it's cars costing more than £40k that suffer the most.

See here:-

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-20...

Does the £40k apply to the list price of the basic car or the list price of the car including options? I'm assuming the former as it would seem crazy to have a car with a list price of (say) £39k and then end-up paying higher tax just because you've specced a few extras which have no environmental impact whatsoever! I'm guessing that using the price including options would also be more of a hassle from an admin point of view as potentially every invoice would need to be checked to see ensure the list price hadn't gone over £40k - much easier if you just use the list price for the basic car!

My understanding is £40k is the threshold of the RRP including extras.

£39000 car plus £1200 sat nav......big bill

So you can have a car with a list price of £39k, add (say) a sound system upgrade and an upgraded navigation system (neither of which affect the environmental efficiency of the car) and end-up with a massive increase in your road tax bill as a consequence? Seems a crazy system if true but nothing would surprise me if the government and their bureaucrats devised it...

[aeropilot]

JNW1 said:

So you can have a car with a list price of £39k, add (say) a sound system upgrade and an upgraded navigation system (neither of which affect the environmental efficiency of the car) and end-up with a massive increase in your road tax bill as a consequence? Seems a crazy system if true but nothing would surprise me if the government and their bureaucrats devised it...

Basically communist in principle, as far as I can see, on the basis of if you can afford a 40k car you can afford to pay 500 quid per year VED for 5 years.
Even the Tesla owners won't escape, as their previously free VED now won't be under the new system as they will pay VED based on the over 40k price rules from what I can see?

[as7920]

2016 BMW Group Sales Press release published this morning.

Last year this was published in same day as model upgrade measures release

Hoping we will hear details in next couple of hours!

[R8Steve]

as7920 said:

2016 BMW Group Sales Press release published this morning.

Last year this was published in same day as model upgrade measures release

Hoping we will hear details in next couple of hours!

Were any details released?

[as7920]

R8Steve said:

as7920 said:

2016 BMW Group Sales Press release published this morning.

Last year this was published in same day as model upgrade measures release

Hoping we will hear details in next couple of hours!

Were any details released?

No, still waiting for Summer Updates release. Was informed it could be tomorrow (17th).

[as7920]

Press release accounted, UK specific release still pending.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/deta...

BMW M Performance models of the BMW 1 Series and BMW 2 Series: New engine generation with enhanced power and optimised efficiency.

From July 2016, BMW M Performance automobiles of the BMW 1 Series and BMW 2 Series will underscore their outstanding sporting character even more intensely with an extremely powerful straight six-cylinder petrol engine of the latest generation. Compared with the previous engine, the newly developed 3-litre power unit featuring M Performance Twin Power Turbo technology now mobilises 250 kW/340 hp following a power increase of 10 kW/14 hp and delivers a maximum of 500 Newton metres of torque. As a result, the BMW M Performance models now come up to the performance level of the BMW 1 Series M Coupe, which was built from 2011 to 2012. They complete the spurt from 0 to 100 km/h by up to 0.3 seconds faster than the predecessor models, whilst both fuel consumption and CO2 emissions as per EU test cycle are up to 7 percent lower than before. The increase in power under the bonnet and the resulting enhanced dynamics are also expressed in the new model designations for the BMW M140i 3-door, the BMW M140i 5-door, the BMW M240i Coupe and the BMW M240i Convertible. They are optionally available with BMW xDrive intelligent four-wheel drive technology.

With the standard 6-speed manual transmission, the models BMW M140i 3-door and BMW M140i 5-door accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.8 seconds or with the optional 8-speed Steptronic sports transmission in 4.6 seconds respectively. Fuel consumption as per EU test cycle is 7.8 litres per 100 kilometres (automatic: 7.1 litres) and CO2 emissions 179 grams per kilometre (163 g/km). The BMW M140i xDrive 3-door and the BMW M140i xDrive 5-door come as standard with an 8-speed Steptronic sports transmission and both reach the 100 km/h mark from a standstill in 4.4 seconds. Their combined fuel consumption is 7.4 litres per 100 kilometres and CO2 emissions are 169 grams per kilometre.

[M3Driver]

Reckon there's any chance we'll get the X-Drive one in the UK?

[aeropilot]

M3Driver said:

Reckon there's any chance we'll get the X-Drive one in the UK?

Nope.

[Pommygranite]

[quote=as7920] 6-speed manual transmission, the models BMW M140i 3-door and BMW M140i 5-door accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.8 seconds or with the optional 8-speed Steptronic sports transmission in 4.6 seconds respectively. Fuel consumption as per EU test cycle is 7.8 litres per 100 kilometres (automatic: 7.1 litres) and CO2 emissions 179 grams per kilometre (163 g/km). The BMW M140i xDrive 3-door and the BMW M140i xDrive 5-door come as standard with an 8-speed Steptronic sports transmission and both reach the 100 km/h mark from a standstill in 4.4 seconds. Their combined fuel consumption is 7.4 litres per 100 kilometres and CO2 emissions are 169 grams per kilometre.[/quote

Fook me.

That's bd fking quick and ultra efficient. Crikey.