Is the F8X M3 really that bad?
Discussion
rosino said:
There was just no need for all that torque. They feked up. Who can use all that power in this country anyways. Give me a revvy, nicer sounding engine every day of the week. Cars need to be more fun not more powerful. The M2 proves it.
It's the torque that has finally got an M3 on my list of possible upgrades to my much loved C55 AMG. My shortish commute and school run both offer the potential to ride a wave of accessible torquey power delivery, I just don't want to be ringing it's neck every time I want to enjoy the performance when opportunity knocks. Looks like my type of car tbh though F10 M5 is still top of the list. Kawasicki said:
I think it drives like a muscle car. Not a bad one either, it's quick and they even got the straight 6 to sound like a v8....at least inside the car. Should an m3 be a muscle car?
It always used to be "You want a muscle car, you buy an AMG Mercedes"BMW M cars were always NOT muscle cars.
And if you think that the F8x sounds like a V8, oh dear....
Tony B2 said:
Kawasicki said:
I think it drives like a muscle car. Not a bad one either, it's quick and they even got the straight 6 to sound like a v8....at least inside the car. Should an m3 be a muscle car?
It always used to be "You want a muscle car, you buy an AMG Mercedes"BMW M cars were always NOT muscle cars.
And if you think that the F8x sounds like a V8, oh dear....
Wills2 said:
bennyboysvuk said:
There will be no threading M3s/4s down country lanes, not without going rally style and putting a wheel in the dirt anyway.
Not sure if you're being serious? 
However, and in defence of the new M3, I took a test drive in one yesterday and against everything all expectations, I really enjoyed it!
Before setting off, I set up the M2 mode to DSC off and everything else to max. On the move, I had to press the M2 button twice to recall my options; once to select and once again to confirm it, but it can be done pretty much instantaneously.
The exhaust note outside was pretty average if I'm honest, but the fake sound inside is quite convincing. It sounded burbly and aggressive and much louder than in the M135i. The thing that really struck me though was just how throttle steerable the car is. A quick stab of throttle is all that's needed to mobilise the rear and get it steering on the throttle. That aspect of it was great fun. I'm not sure how many owners will do that, but on getting out of it, I really felt like it was a good, lively and fun car to drive.
bennyboysvuk said:
On the move, I had to press the M2 button twice to recall my options; once to select and once again to confirm it, but it can be done pretty much instantaneously..
Interesting, is the case? on all cars?Had three test drives and not one salesmen pointed this out. No wonder I didnt think the change was significant !
Wills2 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The S65 isn't for me a great engine for our roads though and the F80's engine offers far more satisfaction for more of the time, on a track though I would hanker for the S65 and its hunger for revs and its top end fireworks.
For you Lee, the engine wasn't very good you buddy, for me and many others (engine of the year many times!) it was perfection and has not been bettered by the current M engines in many areas that count. Do you find the new M3 handling is just as good as the E92's? Also out of all your list of cars, if you had to keep one forever which one would you go for?
I'm in a 997.2 at the moment, but have had the e92 m3...thinking of buying a limited edition to keep alongside the Porsche but with the intention of keeping it forever. I loved that v8...I had it in manual, but wasn't sure if the 7 speed was better suited to the engine.
Edited by BigLion on Thursday 18th August 09:56
dufflecoat said:
bennyboysvuk said:
On the move, I had to press the M2 button twice to recall my options; once to select and once again to confirm it, but it can be done pretty much instantaneously..
Interesting, is the case? on all cars?Had three test drives and not one salesmen pointed this out. No wonder I didnt think the change was significant !
I didn't try it any other way since I wanted to find how easy it was to go from normal to full-attack, so I can't confirm if it needs two presses even if you're not disabling DSC.
BigLion said:
Wills you have had a great selection of cars, I think I recall you from a different forum - anyhow interesting to read the M3 lci cars had revised rear dampers - honestly the one I drove was horrible but might need to give it another go in a more up to date M3.
Do you find the new M3 handling is just as good as the E92's? Also out of all your list of cars, if you had to keep one forever which one would you go for?
I'm in a 997.2 at the moment, but have had the e92 m3...thinking of buying a limited edition to keep alongside the Porsche but with the intention of keeping it forever. I loved that v8...I had it in manual, but wasn't sure if the 7 speed was better suited to the engine.
Keep the Porsche, perfect car the 997.2 (so I would have kept that one) As for an e92 m3 I'd look at the frozen silver edition. Do you find the new M3 handling is just as good as the E92's? Also out of all your list of cars, if you had to keep one forever which one would you go for?
I'm in a 997.2 at the moment, but have had the e92 m3...thinking of buying a limited edition to keep alongside the Porsche but with the intention of keeping it forever. I loved that v8...I had it in manual, but wasn't sure if the 7 speed was better suited to the engine.
Edited by BigLion on Thursday 18th August 09:56
The F80 suits my purposes as a daily 30k a year car (modern/frugal/comfy) I think it handles and goes well and looks nice so no complaints from me.
[quote=Wills2]
Keep the Porsche, perfect car the 997.2 (so I would have kept that one) As for an e92 m3 I'd look at the frozen silver edition.
The F80 suits my purposes as a daily 30k a year car (modern/frugal/comfy) I think it handles and goes well and looks nice so no complaints from me.
I think you was in the stansfield arms last week wills car looked nice too
Keep the Porsche, perfect car the 997.2 (so I would have kept that one) As for an e92 m3 I'd look at the frozen silver edition.
The F80 suits my purposes as a daily 30k a year car (modern/frugal/comfy) I think it handles and goes well and looks nice so no complaints from me.
I think you was in the stansfield arms last week wills car looked nice too
dufflecoat said:
bennyboysvuk said:
On the move, I had to press the M2 button twice to recall my options; once to select and once again to confirm it, but it can be done pretty much instantaneously..
Interesting, is the case? on all cars?Had three test drives and not one salesmen pointed this out. No wonder I didnt think the change was significant !
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