E30 M3 standalone upgrade?

E30 M3 standalone upgrade?

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e21Mark

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16,205 posts

173 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Thanks Steve.

I have been talking to Graham Bahr and he is happy to do my head, install cams and re shim etc. I've followed his online posts for a while and he's certainly built some terrific m10 and s14 engines. Once my engine is done, I am intending on going to Wayne @ Chip Wizards for mapping.

Meanwhile, I have some serious overtime / saving to do! smile

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Mark, do you have contact details for Graham Bahr? I've got an M88 head that needs some love...

e21Mark

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Friday 2nd September 2016
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Output Flange said:
Mark, do you have contact details for Graham Bahr? I've got an M88 head that needs some love...
I usually chat with him via Facebook but he now trades under Penguin Motors Ltd.

https://www.facebook.com/penguinmotorslimited

e21Mark

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16,205 posts

173 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Well I went for the DTA (as came at a price I couldn't refuse) and am currently waiting on 284/276 cams from Schrick.

foxworth

38 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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subscribed.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

186 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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I'm looking forward to seeing what happens here Mark smile.

e21Mark

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173 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Same here!

I've also opted to go with Wössner forged pistons. The head is being flowed and the ports matched to the manifolds etc, so that should mean I get the best from the Schrick cams. A lighter flywheel is also going on. Mapping is being done by Sandy Brown (who can be found via google) and he's also making up the wiring loom. I'd like to get as close to 250bhp as I can but I'm unsure just how realistic that is?

Anyway, the head is due back anytime now and I can get polishing! My only question is this - Is it better to polish to a mirror finish (to aid gas flow) or is a textured (like brushed or satin aluminium) better to help air/fuel mix? I'm thinking the latter but have no sound knowledge or engineering skills to back that up!

Finally, do I need better injectors? I've been advised to go with some from a Vauxhall VXR as they benefit from a more modern design and spray pattern. Any thoughts?


stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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The ports on the GpA heads were CNC'd just like the stock factory heads and unfinished/non polished. Stock heads came in three varieties, stock 26mm high intakes, the Evo2 and later ('89 on) with 28mm intake ports and the Sport Evo same port sizes but 38.5mm intake valves instead of 37mm intake valves.

I believe yours is an early car which means 26mm intakes and originally they were matched to the original 46mm throttle body rubber isolators. The '89 on cars and Sport Evo had 48mm TBs and therefore a different isolator to suit the matching between head and TB. The early isolators are NLA from BMW so you are stuck with the later isolator for the 28mm port-48mm TB interface. This is where I suspect your porting is happening. Make sure that your TBs mate properly with the isolators as if they are not matched there will be a step up in size from TB to isolator.

As an aside, the Evo 2 has 46mm TBs mated to 28mm head, but these used a different TB casting to the normal 46mm TBs, the same casting as the '89 on and Sport Evo 48mm TBs.

Aside from all that anorak stuff, don't polish and don't bother with anything on the exhaust side as the exhaust ports flow well enough for the early GpA heads (29.5mm intakes) to also have untouched exhaust ports.


e21Mark

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173 months

Thursday 24th November 2016
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Thanks Steve. Mine is a later 215 brake car. smile

e21Mark

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Thursday 8th December 2016
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Well the only thing not to have arrived yet are the ARP bolts and the head is off being ported. Sandy Brown is doing the mapping but also fabricating the wiring loom.

So spec' is as foolows -

Ported head
Schrick 284/276
New injectors (Vauxhall VXR)
Ligher flywheel
Wossner forged pistons

Obviously I couldn't drop a newly rebuilt s14 into a grubby looking engine bay could I? smile




Skyedriver

17,842 posts

282 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Had so many nice cars over the last 46 years but if there was one I could have back it would be my E30M3 Cecotto.
Gone but not forgotten F335DDY

stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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If you are going with larger injectors I would revert to a stock FPR.

e21Mark

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Friday 9th December 2016
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stevesingo said:
If you are going with larger injectors I would revert to a stock FPR.
Hi Steve. I was wondering about that. I'm wondered if I might be better off just going with new OE instead? (Or at least having the current ones properly cleaned?)

stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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If your new ECU cannot drive low impedance injectors, then new high impedance injectors are needed. If you are not running sequential injection, then a split cone injector of about 350cc/min @3bar from the Bosch EV6 or EV14 range and run stock FPR for simplicity and lower current draw.

Edited by stevesingo on Saturday 10th December 14:22

e21Mark

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173 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Great, thank you. smile

Jim M3

36 posts

156 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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I run Bosch 0 280 155 831 injectors with Porsche 3.8 bar FPR

Stock injectors with 3.8 FPR was providing enough fuel to be honest but fancied putting some more modern units in.

That's with 38.5mm valves also.

Works well for me.

Jim.

Edited by Jim M3 on Thursday 15th December 20:48

e21Mark

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173 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Thanks Jim. Just bought a set new in the USA on special offer. £55! smile

Long shot but does anyone have (or know of) an s14 timing chain kit as they're on German back order, with no date in sight.

mark.c

1,090 posts

180 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Not here mate, presumably all the usual suspects tried?

If not, have you tried S14 Power John?

stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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Jim M3

36 posts

156 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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As far as I'm aware there is no 'kit', all the parts are made up of individual part numbers.

Which parts are on back order?

Make sure the injectors come from a reputable source Mark. There are tons of copies around.

Jim.

Edited by Jim M3 on Monday 19th December 11:55