M240i looks quick

M240i looks quick

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cc3

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PinkFatBunny

779 posts

181 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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That certainly isn't hanging around.
I have an M4 and I must admit there are certain days when I think I should just buy a 140/240 and save the extra cash.

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

198 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Thats almost M3/4 quick TBH.

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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PinkFatBunny said:
That certainly isn't hanging around.
I have an M4 and I must admit there are certain days when I think I should just buy a 140/240 and save the extra cash.
There's more to an M-car than straight line speed (or at least there should be!) but to be fair these M240i's seem pretty quick and probably have as much performance as you need for use on public roads in the UK......

rosino

1,346 posts

172 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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It's just that their chassis is kinda shyte so you cannot use that power on challenging roads...

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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rosino said:
It's just that their chassis is kinda shyte so you cannot use that power on challenging roads...
Perhaps but I reckon after discount mid-£30k's will get you a decent spec M240i fettled by someone like Birds or ACS and that would handle properly as well as being M2 quick in a straight line....

gizard

2,249 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I have just gone back again to an M3 (F80) from a M135i (previously had e92 M3) and the difference is quite marked in IMO and I have not even run it in yet. The 8sp auto is very good for a slush box but the DCT is far advanced from sporty perspective. and you are right it's the chassis that is lacking on the sub m cars. What I find slightly irritating is that when I went from an e92 V8 to a 135 is that there was not a massive drop in the consumption rate (don't get me wrong I was not expecting miracles) with a 2 less cylinders and ~100 hp less the figures did not add up.... anyway enjoying the new car much more so far than I did with the 135 when it was new.

Presuming Ed

1,396 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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No question its as quick as an M2. Seriously impressive performance if all you want is go in a straight line.

Snowyark

362 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Presuming Ed said:
No question its as quick as an M2. Seriously impressive performance if all you want is go in a straight line.
That's it ... but its so far away in terms of driving feel, sound and how it makes you feel. I have an M2 and previously did 30K in an M135i over 3 years, covering 3 visits to the Nurburgring and several track days. The car's are worlds apart which is something i was rather worried about prior to taking delivery of the M2.

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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gizard said:
I have just gone back again to an M3 (F80) from a M135i (previously had e92 M3) and the difference is quite marked in IMO and I have not even run it in yet. The 8sp auto is very good for a slush box but the DCT is far advanced from sporty perspective. and you are right it's the chassis that is lacking on the sub m cars. What I find slightly irritating is that when I went from an e92 V8 to a 135 is that there was not a massive drop in the consumption rate (don't get me wrong I was not expecting miracles) with a 2 less cylinders and ~100 hp less the figures did not add up.... anyway enjoying the new car much more so far than I did with the 135 when it was new.
I'd got used to the M135i and how dull it is and so when I drove the F80 M3 it came as a very pleasant surprise. The M135i is made to feel quiet, slow and wallowy by the F80 M3.

I see around 22mpg on average in the M135i and I assume that the E92 M3 would only be 5 or 6 mpg worse off in daily usage.

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Snowyark said:
Presuming Ed said:
No question its as quick as an M2. Seriously impressive performance if all you want is go in a straight line.
That's it ... but its so far away in terms of driving feel, sound and how it makes you feel. I have an M2 and previously did 30K in an M135i over 3 years, covering 3 visits to the Nurburgring and several track days. The car's are worlds apart which is something i was rather worried about prior to taking delivery of the M2.
And to be clear I wasn't suggesting an M240i is as good as an M2 just because it has similar straight line pace - I do recognise there's more to an M-car than that! However, with a bit of chassis fettling from someone like Birds or ACS I do think an M240i would be a fast and well sorted car; still not as good as an M2/M3/M4 but probably more than capable enough for most drivers and nothing like as costly as the M-cars either!

cc3

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2,795 posts

116 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I'm surprised BMW didn't do more to distance the M2 from the M240i. Given you can get a thumping discount on the M240i there is quite a price difference. Yet the M2 has a similar interior and the M240i gets the new B58 engine giving it virtually similar performance. Ok on a track the M2 will set the faster time but for everyday driving it would be nip and tuck

New A class to get 400 bhp so LCI M2 probably in line for a big power boost?

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I went from an M6 to a M235i (manual) and really I'm not in a particular rush to go back to a full M car again. For the road the M240i will do 99% of what you want, but it definitely does miss the chassis of a proper M car. They are one hell of a bargain in comparison though.

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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JNW1 said:
these M240i's seem pretty quick and probably have as much performance as you need for use on public roads in the UK......
Hi JNW1, Mrs Crackie has just bought a newish Mini Cooper; the one with the 1.5L 3 cylinder petrol. It only has 140ish HP but it has way more performance than you can legally use on public roads in the UK. Not driven it yet but have been a passenger; looks like it could be a lot of fun with a map. 185ish apparently.

Back on topic, I'm missing my old Evolved 335i..............M240i looks very good to me. Have you had enough of the John Deere / Perkins / Massey Fergusson ?? smile

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Edited by Crackie on Saturday 1st October 13:52

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Crackie said:
Hi JNW1, Mrs Crackie has just bought a newish Mini Cooper; the one with the 1.5L 3 cylinder petrol. It only has 140ish HP but it has way more performance than you can legally use on public roads in the UK. Not driven it yet but have been a passenger; looks like it could be a lot of fun with a map. 185ish apparently.

Back on topic, I'm missing my old Evolved 335i..............M240i looks very good to me. Have you had enough of the John Deere / Perkins / Massey Fergusson ?? smile

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Edited by Crackie on Saturday 1st October 13:52
I'd heard on the grapevine that the Aldi had finally gone! Daresay the Mini will be fun, probably goes to show you don't need lots of power and torque if you keep the weight down!

Can imagine you're missing the mapped 335i - apart from mpg an A3 oil burner isn't going to compare favourably in any way, shape or form! Have I had enough of the 335d? Well, it's a nice enough car but the truth is I don't love it - respect it certainly but love it no. However, in Touring form it's a very versatile machine to have in the household and I'm not straining at the leash to get rid (not least because I'm not sure what I'd replace it with). I'll probably keep it for another 12 months and see how the land lies then!

Back to the M240i, they're certainly quick but I followed one for a little way down the A1 this morning and got to say I'm not entirely struck on the looks of the 2-series. The M2 looks better to my eye but being honest I prefer the 4-series; I know it's a bigger, heavier, car - and will probably be more of a GT than a sports coupe - but given the way I drive nowadays I'd probably go 440i over M240i (or M4 over M2 if I had the dosh!).

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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JNW1 said:
Have I had enough of the 335d ? Well, it's a nice enough car, I'm not sure what I'd replace it with
F31 B3 Bi-Turbo ??


Selmer Mk6

245 posts

127 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I am thinking of buying a 240I, but the dealer only has a 235I available for a test drive. He is saying they are essentially the same, no suspension changes etc. I am wondering whether I should actually drive a 240i before I place an order (that's if I like it).

On another related point. In the flesh the M2 certainly looks the business in comparison to the 240i. I wonder whether the price differential will be maintained after a number of years on the M2.

The big problem I have is that the M240i as capable as it is, is a bit run of the mill looks wise. I know some people like that, but that was why I did not buy the M135i a number of years ago.

cerb4.5lee

30,491 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Selmer Mk6 said:
The big problem I have is that the M240i as capable as it is, is a bit run of the mill looks wise. I know some people like that, but that was why I did not buy the M135i a number of years ago.
I've been thinking of the M235i as my next car, but the fact that it looks so anonymous really disappoints me and they just don't stand out at all.

Whereas the M2 does have much more purpose about it.

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Crackie said:
JNW1 said:
Have I had enough of the 335d ? Well, it's a nice enough car, I'm not sure what I'd replace it with
F31 B3 Bi-Turbo ??
A very nice option but not a cheap one and out of budget at the moment!!

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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130R said:
I went from an M6 to a M235i (manual) and really I'm not in a particular rush to go back to a full M car again. For the road the M240i will do 99% of what you want, but it definitely does miss the chassis of a proper M car. They are one hell of a bargain in comparison though.
I think it depends on the driver and what you want from the car. I'd say the M135/235/140/240 does about 70% of what an M car can, but that 30% is the bit that counts for me. I'd have something sportier, but for the need to fit child buggies and bikes etc in the back.