M3 E92 questions

[Wills2]

R33FAL said:

Max Maxasson said:

Make sure they are OEM wheels...a lot of cars have been retrofitted with reps - which I wouldn't recommend having had poor experience with a set of CSL reps.
In fact I'm fairly sure a main dealer cars should not come with replica wheels.

Would disagree... I have had the Avant Garde competition pack wheels on mine for 2 years and they are absolutely fine.

Also, if you happen to kerb them, cost to replace full set ~£695 is the same as a cost of one wheel from BMW.

Dealers don't seem to pick up on mine being reps either.

I'd a say a decent car deserves decent wheels, why people buy an M3 and then put crappy cheap reps on them I'll never know.

[R33FAL]

Wills2 said:

I'd a say a decent car deserves decent wheels, why people buy an M3 and then put crappy cheap reps on them I'll never know.

I would agree, but the reps actually in this case look better than the originals.

Its the 359 comp wheels + more concave. Whats not to like.

[ant man]

Max Maxasson said:

woogie said:

How can you tell if they are reps ?

Its not easy...they tend to be heavier, made with different materials and in my case very difficult to balance.
I guess a lot of wheel weights would make me suspicious.

The genuine wheels are made by BBS. Their stamp is inside. I too would advise against replica wheels and only use wheels from Motorsport wheel makers such as: BBS, OZ, etc.

OP - 2 mile journeys will slowly kill the car. The engine and exhaust components will never get hot enough plus will not be sufficient to charge the battery.

[John Laverick]

Wills2 said:

I'd a say a decent car deserves decent wheels, why people buy an M3 and then put crappy cheap reps on them I'll never know.

Because they're proven and 1/4 of the price? Just because they're replicas doesn't = poor quality.

In fact ... there are plenty of examples of poor quality OEM BMW wheels so maybe they've even an upgrade?!

[woogie]

I am looking at 2 m3's for 26,000


one is 2010 - 60,000 miles and has EDC
other is 2010 - 40,000 and doesn't have EDC


Is EDC such a big deal? I prefer the new and lower mileage car

Also BMW advise me that they cannot drop the prices blab blah blah it is what it is, is this true? You cant get any discount at all ?

[Smuler]

woogie said:

I am looking at 2 m3's for 26,000


one is 2010 - 60,000 miles and has EDC
other is 2010 - 40,000 and doesn't have EDC


Is EDC such a big deal? I prefer the new and lower mileage car

Also BMW advise me that they cannot drop the prices blab blah blah it is what it is, is this true? You cant get any discount at all ?

They CAN drop, but having looked at these for myself, Feb-MAy and for a mate, later on, they don't have to IF they are reasonably priced and there's demand. Example, 12 people went after a M3 back In Feb I looked at. It seemed mint, 23k, 32k miles, 1 prior owner (I think). I saw them waiting, one nearly hit me with the door, getting in as I was crouching down checking tyre tread


I wouldn't chose any option over decent mileage. Default suspension settings I've had in all M3s I've driven is great. So I'd go for the lower one, tho as I think I said before I'd want absolute surety on service/maintenance history. That's more important than EDC and miles.

[Wills2]

John Laverick said:

Wills2 said:

I'd a say a decent car deserves decent wheels, why people buy an M3 and then put crappy cheap reps on them I'll never know.

Because they're proven and 1/4 of the price? Just because they're replicas doesn't = poor quality.

In fact ... there are plenty of examples of poor quality OEM BMW wheels so maybe they've even an upgrade?!

Yeah the original 19" they fit to the e29 M3 from Fuchs and BBS are rubbish, much better to get some cheap reps.

[woogie]

Smuler said:

woogie said:

I am looking at 2 m3's for 26,000


one is 2010 - 60,000 miles and has EDC
other is 2010 - 40,000 and doesn't have EDC


Is EDC such a big deal? I prefer the new and lower mileage car

Also BMW advise me that they cannot drop the prices blab blah blah it is what it is, is this true? You cant get any discount at all ?

They CAN drop, but having looked at these for myself, Feb-MAy and for a mate, later on, they don't have to IF they are reasonably priced and there's demand. Example, 12 people went after a M3 back In Feb I looked at. It seemed mint, 23k, 32k miles, 1 prior owner (I think). I saw them waiting, one nearly hit me with the door, getting in as I was crouching down checking tyre tread


I wouldn't chose any option over decent mileage. Default suspension settings I've had in all M3s I've driven is great. So I'd go for the lower one, tho as I think I said before I'd want absolute surety on service/maintenance history. That's more important than EDC and miles.

The higher Mileage one is also a special edition in Monte Carlo blue , not sure what else you get but it does have a better stereo also

Thing is the low miler hasn't had any throttle actuators and the blue one has had them done in 2014 and June this year so guess you get a two year warranty from June on those ? But is it best to have a car that's been done or one that's never had to have them ?

Would you think maybe the higher mileage one has been tracked ?

[Smuler]

I' looked at a lot of cars and most were 2007/8 and they did not all have the throttle actuators done. I'm not aware it's a problem on every car. If the MCB had them done under BMW warranty , I don't believe that attracts a separate 2 year warranty, but you will have a solid 1 year warranty with any approved Used car so I wouldn't let throttle actuators be a deciding factor. Ideally. I'd always chose a car with a problem free history. I had such a 335i, the supposedly unreliable N54, and yet that hit 85k with only injectors ever needing doing

You can take the last 7 digits of VIN and put it into a site like BMWVIN.org and see the exact spec of the MCB. I had top of the range stereo in my 335i and it is awesome but 20k less miles is more appealing. Unless you do more than 20k in your first year, you would then be able to buy a continuing warranty a lot cheaper than if you were to buy one for the 60k plus MCB car.

On that point , maybe if they won't drop price you could try with either to get a second years warranty ?

I don't see why high mileage means MCB was tracked. Get a look at the service book, if it's getting brakes done a lot more than other cars that could be a sign of tracking or at least driving hard. I found that on a car my mate rejected. It was burning tyres and pads all the time !

I don't think with 26k budget you need to get one as high as 60k.

[woogie]

They just called me its 8-30 pm lol

He said if we offer the two year warranty would I be interested ? I would as those warranties are pretty expensive and it's peice of mind for two years .

We will see tomorrow

[John Laverick]

Wills2 said:

Yeah the original 19" they fit to the e29 M3 from Fuchs and BBS are rubbish, much better to get some cheap reps.

I didn't say that though did I, I was being tounge in cheek. I was simply making the point that BMW themselves have had problems with poor quality wheels in the past too so just because something is expensive doesn't automatically make it good quality and the opposite is also true.

I don't see what the problem is with good quality replicas, the Avant Guard replicas on mine have been spot on so why not? They're a well proven product in my eyes. Have you had a bad experience with this particular brand and style of wheel?

[Smuler]

woogie said:

They just called me its 8-30 pm lol

He said if we offer the two year warranty would I be interested ? I would as those warranties are pretty expensive and it's peice of mind for two years .

We will see tomorrow

Having for free , something you would've paid for , is a good result and comparable to getting a discount.
Well done !

[woogie]

I now own an M3

[R33FAL]

great stuff... get some pictures up!

[woogie]

I wanted to pick it up this weekend but their diary is full at present


How can the diary be full I want it this weekend ? how does it take to pick a car up?

Looks like next Saturday now

[Stone Cold]

Just to add to the thread mine are reps from a well known reputable source on Cutters, had them on my E46 too and touch wood no problems.

[Smuler]

woogie said:

I wanted to pick it up this weekend but their diary is full at present


How can the diary be full I want it this weekend ? how does it take to pick a car up?

Looks like next Saturday now

That sounds strange, AUC handovers are fairly simple, as there's a standard pro forma. My M3 purchase experience was test drive, agree deal, wait 6 days as there were a few things that needed doing and then collect/sign paperwork which can't have been more than 20 minutes as I paid by debit card which is quickest transfer of funds. Not sure whether that's still possible.

But anyways, maybe in your case they have some prep like wheel refurb, they need doing to get the car mint?

[woogie]

Smuler said:

woogie said:

I wanted to pick it up this weekend but their diary is full at present


How can the diary be full I want it this weekend ? how does it take to pick a car up?

Looks like next Saturday now

That sounds strange, AUC handovers are fairly simple, as there's a standard pro forma. My M3 purchase experience was test drive, agree deal, wait 6 days as there were a few things that needed doing and then collect/sign paperwork which can't have been more than 20 minutes as I paid by debit card which is quickest transfer of funds. Not sure whether that's still possible.

But anyways, maybe in your case they have some prep like wheel refurb, they need doing to get the car mint?

Booked in for next Tuesday now.

I am pxing my 320d convertible - never driven an M3 before but hopeing it's going to be amazing.

I wanted a coupe not a convertible, lighter by 230 kilos and I wanted it for the driving experience

I have looked at so many vids and reviews I think I could probably build one from scratch now lol

So how wide is my smile going to be do you reckon ?

[Smuler]

woogie said:

Booked in for next Tuesday now.

I am pxing my 320d convertible - never driven an M3 before but hopeing it's going to be amazing.

I wanted a coupe not a convertible, lighter by 230 kilos and I wanted it for the driving experience

I have looked at so many vids and reviews I think I could probably build one from scratch now lol

So how wide is my smile going to be do you reckon ?

probably seen them, but just in case; my 2 fave e92 M3 vids



https://youtu.be/aWxdaEJMTwU

https://youtu.be/dFva5Z8hio8

[woogie]

martindesu said:

woogie said:

I am looking at 2 m3's for 26,000


one is 2010 - 60,000 miles and has EDC
other is 2010 - 40,000 and doesn't have EDC


Is EDC such a big deal? I prefer the new and lower mileage car

Also BMW advise me that they cannot drop the prices blab blah blah it is what it is, is this true? You cant get any discount at all ?

I dont have EDC and my car has done 50k. The garage thought it must be 20k as it's so clean underneath.

Hi - I bought the lower mileage non edc one - it came with 2 year warranty and that swung it - plus its 2011 not 2010 ( got year wrong above)