What M car to go for? drive c63 coupe bi turbo know"

What M car to go for? drive c63 coupe bi turbo know"

Author
Discussion

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
quotequote all
im thinking of selling my merc c63 amg for something with more throttle response and feel for quick sunday morning blasts"

the mercs a animal the way that power come in with low down torq" but there is that split second pause before eneything! Also cars very jerky most times eaven in comfort"

iv had a bmw m4 coupe in 2014 when 1st came out! was very fast car and good ride and not to harsh! but that sound! just dead to me!

whots best out of e46 m3 cs/csl or e92 m3 or maybe 1m or m2 ?

hoppo4.2

1,531 posts

185 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
The e46's will feel super slow compared to your 63. Although the are lovely to drive.

andyman_2006

718 posts

189 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
E46 M3 CSL....

Dont worry about the power drop from the merc, they are in different leagues for handling and throttle response.

Plus it'll feel more special, and hold its value.

Andy

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
andyman_2006 said:
E46 M3 CSL....

Dont worry about the power drop from the merc, they are in different leagues for handling and throttle response.

Plus it'll feel more special, and hold its value.

Andy
yah do like the e46 m3 csl but only did them in a slow clunky auto box for the uk I think? and the prices have gone crazy at minute"

60k+ for a good lower mile car! don't think you"ll make eney money on these know! May eaven start dropping?

about the E46 m3 cs? most the best parts from the csl and lot better priced and stick shift

helix402

7,832 posts

181 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
The CS is a fine car and as you say available without SMG.

johnny m3

75 posts

193 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
Have a go in the E92 with comp pack and modded exhaust,not as powerful as your amg but a better drive.

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
How does the E46 m3 compare with the E92 m3 v8 ? iv not drove eather! The v8 engine will probley kill the e46 in all ways! But is the E46 more sharp and crisp when you nail the gas!

johnny m3

75 posts

193 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
Not driven the E46 so can't comment on that but on the track days I've done the E46 were more than cable of staying with the E92, but the DCT gearbox on the E92 is amazing so you need to drive both,also try m3cutters forum for lots more info.

Wills2

22,666 posts

174 months

Monday 16th January 2017
quotequote all
jonnyj said:
How does the E46 m3 compare with the E92 m3 v8 ? iv not drove eather! The v8 engine will probley kill the e46 in all ways! But is the E46 more sharp and crisp when you nail the gas!
The S65 is a very different V8 to yours and closer to the S54 in many ways, huge amount of revs up to 8400rpm and goes bat st at 7k+

But you have to like using those longs legs and enjoy induction noise rather than contrived farty exhaust sounds to get the benefit.

It's a wonderful engine, very precise on the throttle with 8 ITBs a great chassis that even a ham fisted fool like me could hold at a jaunty angle whilst snapping through the gears.

The CP e92 M3 is the best M car I've had after owning 5.



Kananga

1,079 posts

155 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
jonnyj said:
...

whots best out of e46 m3 cs/csl or e92 m3 or maybe 1m or m2 ?
In case you're interested, my virtually new (450 miles) m2 is about to be traded back to the supplying dealer. Every single option and had full exterior (and interior) gtecniq protection, together with front protection film.


Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
You must go through cars like I go through hot dinners.

You had an RS5 just a few short months ago and were considering an M4 or M2.

Now you have a C63 and are wondering if you should get an older M-series car.

I think you should get whatever Matchbox toy you can afford with your pocket money.

48Valves

1,926 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
jonnyj said:
yah do like the e46 m3 csl but only did them in a slow clunky auto box for the uk I think?

60k+ for a good lower mile car! don't think you"ll make eney money on these know! May eaven start dropping?

about the E46 m3 cs? most the best parts from the csl and lot better priced and stick shift
Slow and clunky compared to what? It's not an auto box and shouldn't be thought of as such. It's miles better than the traditional manual the E46 has. Which is slow and clunky. The SMG in the E46 suits the car perfectly, especially when pressing on.

The CS is a run out M3 with slightly bigger breaks and CSL style wheels. It certainly doesn't have most of the parts of the CSL.


andyman_2006

718 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
jonnyj said:
How does the E46 m3 compare with the E92 m3 v8 ? iv not drove eather! The v8 engine will probley kill the e46 in all ways! But is the E46 more sharp and crisp when you nail the gas!
From my personal experience in both, i would say very little performance difference, the V8 most certainly does not kill the straight 6 3.2...

What you'll find if you drive both back to back is the E46 is sharper, feels lighter and more responsive. It has more edge or thats how i felt, and given the price differences when i looked to trade my E46 for a E92 i couldn't see it as worth the extra money (to me anyway)

E92 is a better cruiser, has more toys, is more uptodate with things like its Nav, hi-fi, and interior is newer looking but i'm not so sure its better built, and the seats i prefer in my E46.

Try both if you can, i had the option of trying back to back as i own the E46 and went to view/drive a E92 at a main dealers, and came away very happy to keep my E46. (this was 4 years ago now)

All that said, the V8 engine is really nice, makes a nice sound and Revs nice and high.

If i hadn't already got my E46 (and had more space!) i would most certainly have a E92!

Andy

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
Trabi601 said:
You must go through cars like I go through hot dinners.

You had an RS5 just a few short months ago and were considering an M4 or M2.

Now you have a C63 and are wondering if you should get an older M-series car.

I think you should get whatever Matchbox toy you can afford with your pocket money.
whots your problem my friend? if you check facebook" for john jones westmidlands! you will see all the cars iv had over the last 3 years"

old c63 amg coupe in red
Nissan 370z nismo
bmw m4 Austin yellow
audi rs5 coupe red

and iv got the new merc c63 amg coupe know!

and looks I got more pocket money than you my friend"

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
Kananga said:
In case you're interested, my virtually new (450 miles) m2 is about to be traded back to the supplying dealer. Every single option and had full exterior (and interior) gtecniq protection, together with front protection film.
wy you trading back your m2 so early my friend? was"nt as good as you thought? whot colour and gearbox buddy?

nw942

455 posts

104 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
CSL would give you the fantastic induction noise that 'encourages' you to take it to the red line, lovely balance, and IIRC it is approximately 100kg ligher than a standard E46 M3. But unfortunately you do have to pay a bit for that privilege.

1M will give you a more 'flexible' engine due to the low/mid-range torque, and probably has a bit more character overall (due to both it's attributes and it's flaws).

Not driven an M2 so can't comment on that.

iwantagta

1,323 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
Generally these things are solved by the custard test.
Image of your C63 with a packet of birds custard on it/in it.
(Else some other non standard thing that you would have kitchen if you dont have custard).
If you can drop outside quickly and do it now.
Interior shot with the foodstuff on the driver seat would be perfect.

Without this people will question your never ending stream of lovely cars.

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
48Valves said:
Slow and clunky compared to what? It's not an auto box and shouldn't be thought of as such. It's miles better than the traditional manual the E46 has. Which is slow and clunky. The SMG in the E46 suits the car perfectly, especially when pressing on.

The CS is a run out M3 with slightly bigger breaks and CSL style wheels. It certainly doesn't have most of the parts of the CSL.
Look whot EVO review said about the E46 m3 cs buddy"

main thing is the cs e46 has got the same quicker steering rack as csl " also revised springs" bigger brakes and 19 alloys"

at less than half the price"

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m3/6324/bmw-m3-cs

jonnyj

Original Poster:

14 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
iwantagta said:
Generally these things are solved by the custard test.
Image of your C63 with a packet of birds custard on it/in it.
(Else some other non standard thing that you would have kitchen if you dont have custard).
If you can drop outside quickly and do it now.
Interior shot with the foodstuff on the driver seat would be perfect.

Without this people will question your never ending stream of lovely cars.
HaHa yah right mate! I"ll do a video of myself running necked around Tesco car park also lol

iwantagta

1,323 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
quotequote all
jonnyj said:
iwantagta said:
Generally these things are solved by the custard test.
Image of your C63 with a packet of birds custard on it/in it.
(Else some other non standard thing that you would have kitchen if you dont have custard).
If you can drop outside quickly and do it now.
Interior shot with the foodstuff on the driver seat would be perfect.

Without this people will question your never ending stream of lovely cars.
HaHa yah right mate! I"ll do a video of myself running necked around Tesco car park also lol
Its really a 2 minute job to take a photo of the interior of your car to prove you arent talking nonsense. No-one wants a picture of you at all, or your numberplate.
People struggle to believe someone changes cars every week when they struggle to spell.
The custard test is a tradition on pistonheads. It has shown many a person to be an attention we.
No photo. Not real.