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Julia66
20 minutes looking at a car in the metal is more than enough time to form an opinion, some people decide in seconds as to a car’s appearance on the road as they are driving.
Understandably you are defensive towards the car you have spent your hard earned money on.
I merely expressed my thoughts on the design I cannot comment on the performance as I have not driven the car even though I was offered a test drive , which is saying something as I have had a couple of M cars.
I stick by my view it’s a very poor effort and as mentioned by others in earlier posts something is clearly off when the 240i looks a better more cohesive design.
I think BMW tried to appeal to all markets with this M2 and made a mess of it.
Earlier M cars had presence and real appeal with there design just look at the 1M coupe as an example a thing of beauty , doubt the M2 will be seen in the same way in ten years.
The other thing is the sheer weight of the car with driver and passenger must be close to 2 tons which is a nonsense for M coupe.
20 minutes looking at a car in the metal is more than enough time to form an opinion, some people decide in seconds as to a car’s appearance on the road as they are driving.
Understandably you are defensive towards the car you have spent your hard earned money on.
I merely expressed my thoughts on the design I cannot comment on the performance as I have not driven the car even though I was offered a test drive , which is saying something as I have had a couple of M cars.
I stick by my view it’s a very poor effort and as mentioned by others in earlier posts something is clearly off when the 240i looks a better more cohesive design.
I think BMW tried to appeal to all markets with this M2 and made a mess of it.
Earlier M cars had presence and real appeal with there design just look at the 1M coupe as an example a thing of beauty , doubt the M2 will be seen in the same way in ten years.
The other thing is the sheer weight of the car with driver and passenger must be close to 2 tons which is a nonsense for M coupe.
Julia66
20 minutes looking at a car in the metal is more than enough time to form an opinion, some people decide in seconds as to a car’s appearance on the road as they are driving.
Understandably you are defensive towards the car you have spent your hard earned money on.
I merely expressed my thoughts on the design I cannot comment on the performance as I have not driven the car even though I was offered a test drive , which is saying something as I have had a couple of M cars.
I stick by my view it’s a very poor effort and as mentioned by others in earlier posts something is clearly off when the 240i looks a better more cohesive design.
I think BMW tried to appeal to all markets with this M2 and made a mess of it.
Earlier M cars had presence and real appeal with there design just look at the 1M coupe as an example a thing of beauty , doubt the M2 will be seen in the same way in ten years.
The other thing is the sheer weight of the car with driver and passenger must be close to 2 tons which is a nonsense for M coupe.
20 minutes looking at a car in the metal is more than enough time to form an opinion, some people decide in seconds as to a car’s appearance on the road as they are driving.
Understandably you are defensive towards the car you have spent your hard earned money on.
I merely expressed my thoughts on the design I cannot comment on the performance as I have not driven the car even though I was offered a test drive , which is saying something as I have had a couple of M cars.
I stick by my view it’s a very poor effort and as mentioned by others in earlier posts something is clearly off when the 240i looks a better more cohesive design.
I think BMW tried to appeal to all markets with this M2 and made a mess of it.
Earlier M cars had presence and real appeal with there design just look at the 1M coupe as an example a thing of beauty , doubt the M2 will be seen in the same way in ten years.
The other thing is the sheer weight of the car with driver and passenger must be close to 2 tons which is a nonsense for M coupe.
Gary tenge
I've certainly no need to justify or defend my decision to buy the car. The majority of the UK motoring press seem to be doing a good enough job of that for me.
Clearly you've already made your mind up, but with comments like 'clearly and without exception' and 'no excuses, no arguments', it seems that you have already made everyone else's minds up as well.
I've certainly no need to justify or defend my decision to buy the car. The majority of the UK motoring press seem to be doing a good enough job of that for me.
Clearly you've already made your mind up, but with comments like 'clearly and without exception' and 'no excuses, no arguments', it seems that you have already made everyone else's minds up as well.
Julia66
Sorry you feel this way I certainly didn’t want to annoy you or indeed any new owners of the M2 that was not my intention ,you just have to accept others have different ideas on this particular car.
Let’s be realistic this Forum provides a platform for like minded people to express themselves
It’s a level playing field for everyone whether you agree or disagree on any vehicle.
My view is an honest one based on the design nothing more.
Sorry you feel this way I certainly didn’t want to annoy you or indeed any new owners of the M2 that was not my intention ,you just have to accept others have different ideas on this particular car.
Let’s be realistic this Forum provides a platform for like minded people to express themselves
It’s a level playing field for everyone whether you agree or disagree on any vehicle.
My view is an honest one based on the design nothing more.
No annoyance on my part. I'm just happy to offer an alternative view from all your negativity.
Everyone is free to give an opinion and that works both ways. The trouble is that you seem to be effectively asserting your opinion as fact.
I'll leave it at that and continue to enjoy my M2.
Everyone is free to give an opinion and that works both ways. The trouble is that you seem to be effectively asserting your opinion as fact.
I'll leave it at that and continue to enjoy my M2.
Seriously, you seem unable to accept others have opinions , perhaps this is not the forum for you.
Even other M2 owners accept it’s not a good design but you have got yourself worked up for no reason.
I do hope you continue to enjoy your car as they say in Ireland “well wear” which means may it serve you well.
Even other M2 owners accept it’s not a good design but you have got yourself worked up for no reason.
I do hope you continue to enjoy your car as they say in Ireland “well wear” which means may it serve you well.
Oh dear.....
As I said, I'm more than happy to consider others' opinions. I've already mentioned areas of the car that could be improved.
I also have enough about me to realise that the design is a bit radical and not for everyone.
I suggest you read back over your posts and look at the closed language you have used when condemning the car. Its certainly not inviting an open and fair debate.
You come across as someone that's happy to consider the views of others....as long as they match yours.
As I said, I'm more than happy to consider others' opinions. I've already mentioned areas of the car that could be improved.
I also have enough about me to realise that the design is a bit radical and not for everyone.
I suggest you read back over your posts and look at the closed language you have used when condemning the car. Its certainly not inviting an open and fair debate.
You come across as someone that's happy to consider the views of others....as long as they match yours.
You come across as someone who can’t take criticism of there chosen car and then gets personal.
I will rise above personal criticism of your posts.
It’s a forum about cars nothing else you should remember that and to repeat everybody is entitled to their views regarding the M2.
Learn to just disagree not criticise any forum member in the future.
I pity the next forum member to say anything about the M2 !!!
No doubt you are sitting there keyboard at the ready.
I will rise above personal criticism of your posts.
It’s a forum about cars nothing else you should remember that and to repeat everybody is entitled to their views regarding the M2.
Learn to just disagree not criticise any forum member in the future.
I pity the next forum member to say anything about the M2 !!!
No doubt you are sitting there keyboard at the ready.
We all like different things, i personally think the F87 M2 is as good looking as the 1M and my favourite M car looks wise maybe apart from the E30 M3.
Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
Belle427 said:
We all like different things, i personally think the F87 M2 is as good looking as the 1M and my favourite M car looks wise maybe apart from the E30 M3.
Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
I think you're spot on about us all liking different things. To me the F87 M2 looks like it has been reversed into a wall, mainly because I'm used to seeing the E92 M3/F82 M4 which are much longer looking cars for example. The rear three quarters on the F87 M2 just looks too short to my eyes if you know what I mean. I wouldn't buy the 1M for its looks either, but I would like to have a drive in one though for sure. Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
I love the look of the new M2, however.... what the f
k were they thinking with the M performance parts catalogue?
I'm 25 so I presume I'm in the age group which all these tacked on aggressive carbon bits are supposed to appeal to, but I just think they've got it so, so wrong.
I do like the occasional mod on my cars and I'm not opposed to the aggressive in your face stuff usually - but the M performance stuff just looks crap.
The aftermarket stuff that Evolve, AutoID etc are fitting to these looks much better.
k were they thinking with the M performance parts catalogue?I'm 25 so I presume I'm in the age group which all these tacked on aggressive carbon bits are supposed to appeal to, but I just think they've got it so, so wrong.
I do like the occasional mod on my cars and I'm not opposed to the aggressive in your face stuff usually - but the M performance stuff just looks crap.
The aftermarket stuff that Evolve, AutoID etc are fitting to these looks much better.
tidfrance said:
Hello everyone.
I am very happy with mine as well.
I bought one to use alongside my GT4, as it is more practical on a daily basis.
Out of interest,how much are you paying for the first running in service?.
Cheers
We haven't quite got there yet. We got the car in Oct, but with holidays, Christmas and crap weather, we are only just getting near.I am very happy with mine as well.
I bought one to use alongside my GT4, as it is more practical on a daily basis.
Out of interest,how much are you paying for the first running in service?.
Cheers
I did ask the question at the dealership and I remember at the time that it seemed high for effectively just an engine and diff oil change.
I've got £400.00 in my head, but could be way off the mark!
How does it compare with your GT4? We had a 981 back in 2015....Great cars, but the GT4 is on another level. I've been in a friend's 21 reg and was very impressed.
Looking at the amount of new model M2 for sale new or lightly used there are roughly around 200 cars available.between BMW ,PH and Autotrader sites.
Given the car is a recent launch that’s a lot , don’t think the car attracted a premium that I am aware of and that suggests the overall the design has not been well received.
I suspect current owners may well be taking some big losses when time comes to sell.
Compare this to the M3 touring and it’s a completely different picture for another M product in the same market.
As someone else mentioned the body kit add ons for the M2 are just ridiculous, Halfords and Max power
come to mind .
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Given the car is a recent launch that’s a lot , don’t think the car attracted a premium that I am aware of and that suggests the overall the design has not been well received.
I suspect current owners may well be taking some big losses when time comes to sell.
Compare this to the M3 touring and it’s a completely different picture for another M product in the same market.
As someone else mentioned the body kit add ons for the M2 are just ridiculous, Halfords and Max power
come to mind .
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cerb4.5lee said:
Belle427 said:
We all like different things, i personally think the F87 M2 is as good looking as the 1M and my favourite M car looks wise maybe apart from the E30 M3.
Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
I think you're spot on about us all liking different things. To me the F87 M2 looks like it has been reversed into a wall, mainly because I'm used to seeing the E92 M3/F82 M4 which are much longer looking cars for example. The rear three quarters on the F87 M2 just looks too short to my eyes if you know what I mean. I wouldn't buy the 1M for its looks either, but I would like to have a drive in one though for sure. Im not a fan of the new one personally although it does look ok from certain angles and the interior seems to have been wound up a notch or two over the previous model.
Im not an M expert but is it any bigger than an E90/92 M3?
Belle427 said:
Must admit i was behind a metallic blue M4 a few weeks ago and it does have some amazing road presence and looked stunning.
Im not an M expert but is it any bigger than an E90/92 M3?
It is a fair bit longer than the E9x M3, and the G8x cars are even bigger again. I was in a multi storey car park in it the other day and I miss judged the length of it. It is actually longer than the old Merc GLC350d we had, which is mad really. Im not an M expert but is it any bigger than an E90/92 M3?
I do love it as an all round performance car though for sure.
There's not much out there for similar or even more money that will compete with the GT4.
We did ask about allocations back in Feb 23, but at the time we couldn't even secure a GTS allocation.
We are similar to yourself in as much as we went for Auto in the M2 as we have a manual Evora 400 as our out and out sports car.
We did really like our 981 cayman back in 2015. They are actually really practical and we took it to Le Mans in 2016 and camped out of it with all our gear.
Our friend's car is PDK and he also has a bit of front splitter anxiety. He's not hit it yet, but I saw him a few weeks back and he told me he'd managed to scrape the underside of the car itself a couple of times. It looks great and obviously plays a part in the overall aero package, but it really needs a lifting mech like the GT3.
We did ask about allocations back in Feb 23, but at the time we couldn't even secure a GTS allocation.
We are similar to yourself in as much as we went for Auto in the M2 as we have a manual Evora 400 as our out and out sports car.
We did really like our 981 cayman back in 2015. They are actually really practical and we took it to Le Mans in 2016 and camped out of it with all our gear.
Our friend's car is PDK and he also has a bit of front splitter anxiety. He's not hit it yet, but I saw him a few weeks back and he told me he'd managed to scrape the underside of the car itself a couple of times. It looks great and obviously plays a part in the overall aero package, but it really needs a lifting mech like the GT3.
I'm really not sold on the M performance parts tbh. I think a front splitter is good, but I don't really like the side upstands. I think the bonkers exhaust is actually quite good, but still a bit ott.
As we neared the collection date on ours, the dealer demonstrator arrived and it was fully garnished like your red one. When I spoke to the sales contact, they said that BMW heavily prompted them to order all the M sport kit for the demonstrator. I suspect many of these fully kitted cars are coming to market from that scenario.
As we neared the collection date on ours, the dealer demonstrator arrived and it was fully garnished like your red one. When I spoke to the sales contact, they said that BMW heavily prompted them to order all the M sport kit for the demonstrator. I suspect many of these fully kitted cars are coming to market from that scenario.
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