which M engine is the ONE??!!??
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carl_w said:
dan101smith said:
321PS (misprint in the UK brochure) = approx 316bhp
That explains it. I remember the adverts all quoting 321 bhp, and also the one that claimed 170 mph and 37 mpg (not at the same time of course).Awesome cars.
Would have to go with S54 as fitted to the M3 CSL. I saw and heard one of these at the Nurburgring, being accelerated flat out up through the box, then braking hard and throttle bliping as it came back down.
Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
M5Dave said:
Would have to go with S54 as fitted to the M3 CSL. I saw and heard one of these at the Nurburgring, being accelerated flat out up through the box, then braking hard and throttle bliping as it came back down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3eoWVdCwoEdited by houlbt on Friday 15th August 13:48
M5Dave said:
Would have to go with S54 as fitted to the M3 CSL. I saw and heard one of these at the Nurburgring, being accelerated flat out up through the box, then braking hard and throttle bliping as it came back down.
Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
£20k for sounding better... come off it wouldnt you rather an M3 E46 & then a Golf GTI most people just could justify such a premium hence they bombed at launch.Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
Welshbeef said:
M5Dave said:
Would have to go with S54 as fitted to the M3 CSL. I saw and heard one of these at the Nurburgring, being accelerated flat out up through the box, then braking hard and throttle bliping as it came back down.
Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
£20k for sounding better... come off it wouldnt you rather an M3 E46 & then a Golf GTI most people just could justify such a premium hence they bombed at launch.Until that point I'd dismissed the CSL as a waste of time, not worth the extra £20,000 over the standard M3. Hearing that car instantly changed my mind, that noise alone is worth the extra £20,000, I can still hear it in my mind to this day.
To those who do care however, the CSL is phenominal. It's not just a slightly faster M3, it's a genuine rival to the GT3. When you think of it like that, it's a bargain!
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Because most people couldn't care less what powers the M3 or what it stands for and thus the CSL was seen as an expensive excercise in pointlessness with less comfort.
To those who do care however, the CSL is phenominal. It's not just a slightly faster M3, it's a genuine rival to the GT3. When you think of it like that, it's a bargain!
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BMW are a business and if models dont sell/bomb then they are unlikely to do it again/less likely. It was a limited run too and they struggled to shift them even with huge dealer discounts.
At the end of the day as focused a car as it was most owners decided to add weight to it by adding in air con & stereo - a true GT3 rival would have no options OR suggest Sir might prefer the M3 rather than the CSL.
I pity those who bought one new and suffered the over pricing by BMW but thats life Im sure a number of speculators had their fingers burnt too.
houlbt said:
dan101smith said:
£15k for M3 + £2k for carbon airbox/remap = £17k for CSL sound.
Nearly.
I think it would cost you more than that to do it properly... fitting a proper airbox with free breathing would necessitate different engine management would it not?Nearly.
ASBO said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
S14B25 with 316/326 Schrick cams, 52mm sliding throttles, Carbon fibre airbox, Alpha-N, 1500rpm rough idle and 330Bhp at 9500rpm... Oh, yeshhhh...
Has to be original though.
dan101smith said:
houlbt said:
dan101smith said:
£15k for M3 + £2k for carbon airbox/remap = £17k for CSL sound.
Nearly.
I think it would cost you more than that to do it properly... fitting a proper airbox with free breathing would necessitate different engine management would it not?Nearly.
Cheburator mk2 said:
ASBO said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
S14B25 with 316/326 Schrick cams, 52mm sliding throttles, Carbon fibre airbox, Alpha-N, 1500rpm rough idle and 330Bhp at 9500rpm... Oh, yeshhhh...
Has to be original though.Gassing Station | M Power | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff