Why do people put "M" badges on non-M cars?
Discussion
RichardM5 said:
CoolHands said:
I don't know much about bmw models, so this could be real? But it didn't look it, it looked faintly ridiculous in real life.
Is it a real model?
It's real, just as it left the factory unfortunately.Is it a real model?
Thermobaric said:
I was wondering why I kept seeing a bunch of these around. Crazy it's factory badging. I just thought it was same berk.
I thought you lot were petrolheads......it's an off-the-shelf model and that's how it comes 
Mine arrives in 6 weeks complete with its model inscription
HoHoHo said:
It's the model designation, why does it look dumb 
Have you seen the back of any Porsche for the last few years ;
Styling consistency is the key. It's not a proper M car, so doesn't warrant the M car badge, the mashup of text looks like a needlessly busy watch dial or a shopping list often found on body panels of Max Power cars.Have you seen the back of any Porsche for the last few years ;
This is just my opinion, but it looks messy and aftermarket.
I don't really care if it's factory, just look at it! The "designation" takes up an entire quarter of the rear track width!
You can't point at Porsche either, their designations and badges are elegant and tasteful and consistent with the Porsche design style that has been there since the very start, as opposed to BMW's recent BADGE ALL THE THINGS!!! ethos to appease customers, and so they can tell their mates at the pub that they have an M car innit.
Edited by robbiekhan on Thursday 28th July 13:45
Edited by robbiekhan on Thursday 28th July 13:46
robbiekhan said:
HoHoHo said:
It's the model designation, why does it look dumb
Have you seen the back of any Porsche for the last few years ;
Styling consistency is the key. It's not a proper M car, so doesn't warrant the M car badge, the mashup of text looks like a needlessly busy watch dial or a shopping list often found on body panels of Max Power cars.Have you seen the back of any Porsche for the last few years ;
This is just my opinion, but it looks messy and aftermarket.
I don't really care if it's factory, just look at it! The "designation" takes up an entire quarter of the rear track width!
You can't point at Porsche either, their designations and badges are elegant and tasteful and consistent with the Porsche design style that has been there since the very start, as opposed to BMW's recent BADGE ALL THE THINGS!!! ethos to appease customers, and so they can tell their mates at the pub that they have an M car innit.
Edited by robbiekhan on Thursday 28th July 13:45
Edited by robbiekhan on Thursday 28th July 13:46
t about bragging to my mates about what car I have (currently an F10 M5 by the way ) and the badge is just the badge to me, it means nothing more or less than the model name and the last thing I would personally do is try and pass it as an M car - that said BMW feel it's worthy of it as is they do the 135 and 235 et al.I guess we're all different and that's a good thing
Edited by HoHoHo on Thursday 28th July 13:55
robbiekhan said:
No no, M cars should only have ///MX and nothing else!
There is clearly a two tier M selection with the upper tier being the M2, 3 or whatever and the others M135, M235 etc. which have still had some fetteling from the M division hence they are not simply a 135M Sport for example.I totally understand why they've done it and it can't be done any other way currently.
Asked this question to a guy at work that has the much revered 320d why it was plastered in M badges and the ///M number plates etc. His answer ( and I sh*t you not) was "It has nearly 200hp, name another diesel around here with that much power. I can take most things"
Needless to say he is a bit of a walloper and drives like a complete tool.
Here's the thing though. I have a slightly tweaked R34 GTR and he has the four door 320d. Even if I was to drive like a maniac on the public road on the way home from work (which I wouldn't obviously), getting into 3 figures and weaving in and out of traffic he'd take massive risks to keep up and stupid attempts at overtaking. That is because that is the way he drives and by keeping up with other idiots or passing older guys in say, Jaguar Type Rs he genuinely thinks he has an awesome faster car.
Being stupid is like being dead. Everyone knows but you.
Needless to say he is a bit of a walloper and drives like a complete tool.
Here's the thing though. I have a slightly tweaked R34 GTR and he has the four door 320d. Even if I was to drive like a maniac on the public road on the way home from work (which I wouldn't obviously), getting into 3 figures and weaving in and out of traffic he'd take massive risks to keep up and stupid attempts at overtaking. That is because that is the way he drives and by keeping up with other idiots or passing older guys in say, Jaguar Type Rs he genuinely thinks he has an awesome faster car.
Being stupid is like being dead. Everyone knows but you.
I have a 2L 2011 E92 coupe it is branded as the "msport" package and has all of the little ///M badges inside. As soon as you open the doors there is an aluminium plate on the seals, badges on the steering wheel, gear stick and on my wheels. Does this mean I have a car that is on the same level as an e92 M3? No of course not not so if I were to put an ///M badge on my boot I would look and feel like a giant tit.
Now my car also has the complete E92 M3 drivetrain, breaks and suspension, the total cost of buying my car and doing all of the M3 upgrade work on it totalled more than the cost of buying a genuine 2011 E92 M3 (at he time of purchase and work completion in 2015) and yet I still wouldn't put a M3 badge on it even if if is M3 powered, why? Because it still isn't an M3 but what it is, is a car that looks like the completely standard 320i (apart from the big brake upgrade) and when a little kid in his fiesta ST or someone in a 335d wants to try and show off a little I can rev up the V8 and watch them in my mirrors
Long story short do not put M badges on your car unless it is a genuine factory M car and before anyone asks no "Msport" package cars don't count
Now my car also has the complete E92 M3 drivetrain, breaks and suspension, the total cost of buying my car and doing all of the M3 upgrade work on it totalled more than the cost of buying a genuine 2011 E92 M3 (at he time of purchase and work completion in 2015) and yet I still wouldn't put a M3 badge on it even if if is M3 powered, why? Because it still isn't an M3 but what it is, is a car that looks like the completely standard 320i (apart from the big brake upgrade) and when a little kid in his fiesta ST or someone in a 335d wants to try and show off a little I can rev up the V8 and watch them in my mirrors
Long story short do not put M badges on your car unless it is a genuine factory M car and before anyone asks no "Msport" package cars don't count
Edited by Liam9300 on Tuesday 2nd August 12:09
Liam9300 said:
I have a 2L 2011 E92 coupe it is branded as the "msport" package and has all of the little ///M badges inside. As soon as you open the doors there is an aluminium plate on the seals, badges on the steering wheel, gear stick and on my wheels. Does this mean I have a car that is on the same level as an e92 M3? No of course not not so if I were to put an ///M badge on my boot I would look and feel like a giant tit.
Now my car also has the complete E92 M3 drivetrain, breaks and suspension, the total cost of buying my car and doing all of the M3 upgrade work on it totalled more than the cost of buying a genuine 2011 E92 M3 (at he time of purchase and work completion in 2015) and yet I still wouldn't put a M3 badge on it even if if is M3 powered, why? Because it still isn't an M3 but what it is, is a car that looks like the completely standard 320i (apart from the big brake upgrade) and when a little kid in his fiesta ST or someone in a 335d wants to try and show off a little I can rev up the V8 and watch them in my mirrors
Long story short do not put M badges on your car unless it is a genuine factory M car and before anyone asks no "Msport" package cars don't count
However, the M235, M135, X5 M50d and X6 M50D have all been fettled by M Division hence they are not simply M Sport......your car hasn't and regardless of the money you've spent it's simply a 320D. Now my car also has the complete E92 M3 drivetrain, breaks and suspension, the total cost of buying my car and doing all of the M3 upgrade work on it totalled more than the cost of buying a genuine 2011 E92 M3 (at he time of purchase and work completion in 2015) and yet I still wouldn't put a M3 badge on it even if if is M3 powered, why? Because it still isn't an M3 but what it is, is a car that looks like the completely standard 320i (apart from the big brake upgrade) and when a little kid in his fiesta ST or someone in a 335d wants to try and show off a little I can rev up the V8 and watch them in my mirrors
Long story short do not put M badges on your car unless it is a genuine factory M car and before anyone asks no "Msport" package cars don't count
Edited by Liam9300 on Tuesday 2nd August 12:09
Like it or not, those are the facts. They are not trying to be an M, they are simply confirming they are a part of the family
Blame BMW not the driver or car!
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