Interesting Vid - CSL vs RS4
Discussion
m12_nathan said:
nickyandsi said:
Thought as much
Very agressive today, did an M3 annoy you on the way to work?
I note on another thread you claim that an Audi was more engaging to drive than a 911
Next you'll be saying that the best place for an engine is 2 foot in front of the front wheels 
Edited by m3evo2 on Monday 5th March 17:48
nickyandsi said:
I agree in a way,but then again theres no point to the video shown because the cars are not of the same standard,in terms of weight and everything else.Its like putting a stripped down RS6 against a fully loaded M5,unfair,and a bit ridiculous. I aint saying no more on this page,cos theres no point 
If we only compared cars of the same weight and power, erm, they'd always tie!
Everything else being equal!
I must say I had hoped for some insightful discussion on this thread from both pro-RS4 and pro-CSL people, instead we ended up distracted by what must surely have been a yung'un...
For the record, most people seem to have observed that the CSL did indeed cover the ground more quickly, although the second run looked more true to form than the first. Nevertheless the RS4 looked a little slower than we would have thought, and someone interjected that apparently quite a few RS4s have been found to produce less than the 414 ponies that Herr Audi had promised.
I suspect most of us have a sensible level of admiration for the RS4 and clearly Audi are encroaching on BMW's space by building cars that are actually enjoyable to drive for a change.
I myself considered buying an Avant recently, not as replacement for my CSL but actually to replace my X5. Unfortunately I found it too small (to carry 4 full-sized people) and it somehow felt dated next to all the other Audis in the showroom (mainly the interior).
Audi will shortly stop making the B7 RS4, so I do wonder what its legacy shall be - the car that finally turned the tide? or a blip in Audi's more indigenous nose-heavy dynamic.
For the record, most people seem to have observed that the CSL did indeed cover the ground more quickly, although the second run looked more true to form than the first. Nevertheless the RS4 looked a little slower than we would have thought, and someone interjected that apparently quite a few RS4s have been found to produce less than the 414 ponies that Herr Audi had promised.
I suspect most of us have a sensible level of admiration for the RS4 and clearly Audi are encroaching on BMW's space by building cars that are actually enjoyable to drive for a change.
I myself considered buying an Avant recently, not as replacement for my CSL but actually to replace my X5. Unfortunately I found it too small (to carry 4 full-sized people) and it somehow felt dated next to all the other Audis in the showroom (mainly the interior).
Audi will shortly stop making the B7 RS4, so I do wonder what its legacy shall be - the car that finally turned the tide? or a blip in Audi's more indigenous nose-heavy dynamic.
Beemer-5 said:
nicky, you've said goodbye several times.
You know you can't leave it though!
But---the CSL makes the better sports car mate, sorry.
The RS4 the better motorway car.
There.
You know you can't leave it though!
But---the CSL makes the better sports car mate, sorry.
The RS4 the better motorway car.
There.
agreed Take it from a current RS4 owner..
I've had the pleasure of driving both quite a bit.
I love my RS4, but the CSL is a better drive, no doubt.
there is more to the RS4 than the motorway though.
Interestingly enough, you can get the tail out in the new Rs4.
not quite CSLesque but certainly miles better than the previous hot audis !!
as for the video.... It is exactly what i would expect from a RS4 estate against the CSL.
weight is everything and this is like an elephant and a gazelle
interesting to see what would happen if you put an elise/exige in there to take the less power less weight thing another step.
Edited by obes on Monday 5th March 18:37
obes said:
Beemer-5 said:
nicky, you've said goodbye several times.
You know you can't leave it though!
But---the CSL makes the better sports car mate, sorry.
The RS4 the better motorway car.
There.
You know you can't leave it though!
But---the CSL makes the better sports car mate, sorry.
The RS4 the better motorway car.
There.
agreed Take it from a current RS4 owner..
I've had the pleasure of driving both quite a bit.
I love my RS4, but the CSL is a better drive, no doubt.
there is more to the RS4 than the motorway though.
Interestingly enough, you can get the tail out in the new Rs4.
not quite CSLesque but certainly miles better than the previous hot audis !!
as for the video.... It is exactly what i would expect from a RS4 estate against the CSL.
weight is everything and this is like an elephant and a gazelle
interesting to see what would happen if you put an elise/exige in there to take the less power less weight thing another step.
Edited by obes on Monday 5th March 18:37
At last a voice of educated knowledgable reason
m12_nathan said:
RS4 Avant = probably the most desirable everyday car around for me, until the M5 touring comes out. Wouldn't want one as an only car though, Obes - your combo is pretty much spot on!
hello Nathan! long time no see glad you like it ! If I didn't have the Noble, i would probably be in a CSL at the mo.
The RS4 and the M3(CSL or otherwise) ride the gap between sports and luxury/practicality.
In general the RS4 falls to the luxury side and the M3 to the sportier.
Bloody good for us car fans that's there's a choice to make i say
Oh and to M12 nathan,i would read that thread again,seems you have trouble reading Sir.Ive never driven a Porsche 911,and as a matter of fact,it was a rather nice gentleman that wrote on the thread that he now has a 911,after owning an S4,but now feels he would rather have another Audi. No more to say.Im loving this though 
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