Interesting Vid - CSL vs RS4

[Beemer-5]

M12 Nathan, where do you stand, 450 bhp 996 turbo v CSL?

[Beemer-5]

The permanent 4wd will sap some power, i presume, (on the RS4).

[m12_nathan]

Beemer-5 said:

M12 Nathan, where do you stand, 450 bhp 996 turbo v CSL?

LOL, let's not start that again

[carlmoffett]

103mph in over 13 seconds sounds for a CSL is a bit of the mark.

Autocar clocked 10.9 seconds to 100 therefore it has taken over two seconds to do further 3pm. Must be maaasssiiivvve clutch spur.

[Beemer-5]

My 535d did 100 in 13 seconds, i'm sure my CSL is quicker.

[m12_nathan]

mid to high 10's for the csl to get to 100.

[Beemer-5]

Pretty good for a n/a 3.2!

[GravelBen]

www.autoclips.net/video/4383

RS4 v M3 CS on 5th Gear, the RS4 definitely has the CS in a straight line anyway.

[Beemer-5]

The 'L' makes ALL the difference!

[m12_nathan]

I'm sure it'd have the L as well from a standing start

[GravelBen]

Beemer-5 said:

The 'L' makes ALL the difference!

tbh if its only about all-out performance you could go much quicker for the money by modifying a cheap Impreza/Evo/etc (especially on the sort of roads I tend to have my fun on - a standard jap-turbo-nutter car would be quicker on most of them too). A CSL is a whole lot more special though I'll freely admit - no doubt an M3 of some sort would be in my 'dream garage'

[m3evo2]

The RS4 and M3 CS are quite different beasts. The CS is a nion standard M3 with a few minor CSL parts but importantly retains the "standard" M3's power output. A fairer comparison would be the E39 M5, until the new M3 arrives anyway.

Edited by m3evo2 on Saturday 3rd March 12:30

[nickyandsi]

RS4 anyday.Dont care if the M3 is quicker or not,the RS4 would have it round a corner anyday.Audi all the way

[GravelBen]

nickyandsi said:

RS4 anyday.Dont care if the M3 is quicker or not,the RS4 would have it round a corner anyday.Audi all the way

Waits for the flames

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 3rd March 20:25

[Beemer-5]

nickyandsi said:

RS4 anyday.Dont care if the M3 is quicker or not,the RS4 would have it round a corner anyday.Audi all the way

Don't give up the day job!
LMAO.

[Beemer-5]

GravelBen said:

Beemer-5 said:

The 'L' makes ALL the difference!

tbh if its only about all-out performance you could go much quicker for the money by modifying a cheap Impreza/Evo/etc (especially on the sort of roads I tend to have my fun on - a standard jap-turbo-nutter car would be quicker on most of them too). A CSL is a whole lot more special though I'll freely admit - no doubt an M3 of some sort would be in my 'dream garage'

If it was ONLY about performance then my Westfield is better than either.
212bhp and 595kgs. Owes me just £6,300 to date too.
It'd destroy both at any speed under 100.
(60 in around 3.5 and 100 in about 8.5).

[GravelBen]

Beemer-5 said:

GravelBen said:

Beemer-5 said:

The 'L' makes ALL the difference!

tbh if its only about all-out performance you could go much quicker for the money by modifying a cheap Impreza/Evo/etc (especially on the sort of roads I tend to have my fun on - a standard jap-turbo-nutter car would be quicker on most of them too). A CSL is a whole lot more special though I'll freely admit - no doubt an M3 of some sort would be in my 'dream garage'

If it was ONLY about performance then my Westfield is better than either.
212bhp and 595kgs. Owes me just £6,300 to date too.
It'd destroy both at any speed under 100.
(60 in around 3.5 and 100 in about 8.5).

Sounds good, I still say it would need a pretty exceptional driver to try and keep up with say a standard STi on some of my favourite roads though But I'm kinda cheating by using gravel roads for reference. I have no doubt a quick seven would still be right up with the best on the fun sealed roads

Sorry I'm way off topic now - I suspect CSL quicker on track and RS4 quicker on real-world roads. If I was to have the choice of them as a toy it would be the CSL hands down, as an all-rounder it would be a tougher choice and might well come down to how many doors I thought I needed.

Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 4th March 08:20

[nickyandsi]

For the money i paid for my S4 i could have bought a BMW M3,but didn't

I rest my case

[nickyandsi]

Oh yeah and in the words of clarkson himself,when driving the Audi RS4,he claimed to
be sitting about 3feet from the best engine ever made. He did mention the M3 but still said he would rather have the RS4.

[m3evo2]

nickyandsi said:

Oh yeah and in the words of clarkson himself,when driving the Audi RS4,he claimed to
be sitting about 3feet from the best engine ever made. He did mention the M3 but still said he would rather have the RS4.

Yes but thats what Clarkson said, say no more.

Best check the International Engine Awards stats.