Interesting Vid - CSL vs RS4
Discussion
From what I understand from good journalist friends of mine the RS4 is actually quite a fun car to drive day-to-day, so not the usual understeer oriented 4WD fare.
But I really do feel sorry for people who believe that having 4WD is the only way you can travel quickly or have fun in the wet. I was browsing through the forum RS6.com and came across a thread about the new M3 with one of the leading members stating the following "..To me it will be like so many rwd sportscar a one trick pony, entertaining but only in the dry.".
Sad isn't it. They're missing out on so many great sports cars because they've convinced themselves that RWD is dangerous. There must be a whole generation of younger drivers who have never experienced the pleasure of balancing a chassis on the limit ... using their right foot. Instead they've risen up through a series of FWD cars and hold tightly to the perceived safety net of 4WD like a novice swimmer clings to the side of a swimming pool.
But I really do feel sorry for people who believe that having 4WD is the only way you can travel quickly or have fun in the wet. I was browsing through the forum RS6.com and came across a thread about the new M3 with one of the leading members stating the following "..To me it will be like so many rwd sportscar a one trick pony, entertaining but only in the dry.".
Sad isn't it. They're missing out on so many great sports cars because they've convinced themselves that RWD is dangerous. There must be a whole generation of younger drivers who have never experienced the pleasure of balancing a chassis on the limit ... using their right foot. Instead they've risen up through a series of FWD cars and hold tightly to the perceived safety net of 4WD like a novice swimmer clings to the side of a swimming pool.
bromers2 said:
nickyandsi said:
http://forum.evotechnik.net/showthrea Interesting bit of BMW driving 
Interesting Audi driving - www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=363135&f=23&h=0
Stuff your 4WD in the rain and snow - RWD is tonnes more fun, don't care if you're 0.01sec quicker I'll have a bigger smile on my face
Think this was driver error perhaps
Beemer-5 said:
I just checked, it varies from 2310kgs (Mercedes' figure) to 2370kgs (two road tests' figures).
Great power figure, but that sort of weight will dumb down the performance quite a lot, i guess.
Great power figure, but that sort of weight will dumb down the performance quite a lot, i guess.
Off topic - but that's not how much the car actually weighs, that figure includes 70 litres of fuel, a driver and some luggage (i.e. an extra 150kg or so). Most manufacturers quote vehicle weights without taking these into consideration - hence the reason why you cannot compare manufacturer quoted unladed weights of Porsche & Audi etc with those of BMW or Mercedes.
Same problem arises when comparing the carrying capacity of vehicles, Land Rover for instance quotes luggage capacity from floor to ceiling whilst most other manufacturers only quote from floor to luggage cover.
Anyway, back on topic...
Nicky, like i said, the RS4 is a great car. It has the sort of power a Ferrari 355 can't match, after all.
But if you come onto a CSL forum saying that the semi-luxobarge is a generally faster car and (at least give the impression) that you honestly believe it to be the better sportster then you'll get ragged.
It would be like me going on the Audi forum and saying that my CSL is just as comfortable and well equipped as the RS4.
OK i am overstating it, but the point's there.
But if you come onto a CSL forum saying that the semi-luxobarge is a generally faster car and (at least give the impression) that you honestly believe it to be the better sportster then you'll get ragged.
It would be like me going on the Audi forum and saying that my CSL is just as comfortable and well equipped as the RS4.
OK i am overstating it, but the point's there.
I agree in a way,but then again theres no point to the video shown because the cars are not of the same standard,in terms of weight and everything else.Its like putting a stripped down RS6 against a fully loaded M5,unfair,and a bit ridiculous. I aint saying no more on this page,cos theres no point 
nickyandsi said:
I agree in a way,but then again theres no point to the video shown because the cars are not of the same standard,in terms of weight and everything else.Its like putting a stripped down RS6 against a fully loaded M5,unfair,and a bit ridiculous. I aint saying no more on this page,cos theres no point
Oh you agree at last, I knew I'd get there in the end
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