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Well after much huffing and puffing new car has been ordered (yesterday) and we didn't go for the mx-5.
Love the looks of the car but just a few too many things that annoyed tbh. Primarily the lack of a metal roof, but no glovebox would bug me in the long run, as would the positioning of the cup holders. I think also the lack of pace (yes, i know its not what the mx5 is about) in a time when 1.0Turbo fiesta or corsa will show you a clean pair of heals if just a bit too reserved.
Anyway, that's just my opinions and i'm sure whoever has the new car will enjoy immensely.
Love the looks of the car but just a few too many things that annoyed tbh. Primarily the lack of a metal roof, but no glovebox would bug me in the long run, as would the positioning of the cup holders. I think also the lack of pace (yes, i know its not what the mx5 is about) in a time when 1.0Turbo fiesta or corsa will show you a clean pair of heals if just a bit too reserved.
Anyway, that's just my opinions and i'm sure whoever has the new car will enjoy immensely.
clarki said:
Well after much huffing and puffing new car has been ordered (yesterday) and we didn't go for the mx-5.
Love the looks of the car but just a few too many things that annoyed tbh. Primarily the lack of a metal roof, but no glovebox would bug me in the long run, as would the positioning of the cup holders. I think also the lack of pace (yes, i know its not what the mx5 is about) in a time when 1.0Turbo fiesta or corsa will show you a clean pair of heals if just a bit too reserved.
Anyway, that's just my opinions and i'm sure whoever has the new car will enjoy immensely.
So what did you order?Love the looks of the car but just a few too many things that annoyed tbh. Primarily the lack of a metal roof, but no glovebox would bug me in the long run, as would the positioning of the cup holders. I think also the lack of pace (yes, i know its not what the mx5 is about) in a time when 1.0Turbo fiesta or corsa will show you a clean pair of heals if just a bit too reserved.
Anyway, that's just my opinions and i'm sure whoever has the new car will enjoy immensely.
RenesisEvo said:
I couldn't differentiate between the gear shifts in each, only as I mentioned that you need to shift a bit more often in the 2.0.
An amusing coincidence - going through my photos of the Daylesford launch event, I found that I had parked the 2.0 I drove next to the 1.5 that I then drove a month later at the Windmill Archive event.
Why do you need to shift more in the 2.0??An amusing coincidence - going through my photos of the Daylesford launch event, I found that I had parked the 2.0 I drove next to the 1.5 that I then drove a month later at the Windmill Archive event.
300bhp/ton said:
RenesisEvo said:
I couldn't differentiate between the gear shifts in each, only as I mentioned that you need to shift a bit more often in the 2.0.
An amusing coincidence - going through my photos of the Daylesford launch event, I found that I had parked the 2.0 I drove next to the 1.5 that I then drove a month later at the Windmill Archive event.
Why do you need to shift more in the 2.0??An amusing coincidence - going through my photos of the Daylesford launch event, I found that I had parked the 2.0 I drove next to the 1.5 that I then drove a month later at the Windmill Archive event.
RenesisEvo said:
Not sure about ratios or redlines, but my impression was the 2.0 runs through the gears a fair step quicker than the 1.5. So in the 1.5 I often stayed in 3rd, in the 2.0 I was switching between 3 and 4 a lot. Also the 2.0 being more flexible allows you to drop into a high gear on more occasions.
So isn't that actually the opposite then? That the 2.0 due to more torque and equal revs can be more flexible. Throttle management by the driver will then dictate if you go through the gears quicker or not. I had the chance to spend a day with a 2.0 sport yesterday at the Derbyshire dales event. And it's left me very confused.
I was invited to the initial launch event and drove a 1.5 sport for about 40 miles and loved it (car had done about 25 miles). I was the invited to the local dealers launch event and drove a 1.5 sport which again I loved (again about 20 miles on it when I drove it) and a 2.0 sport which I wasn't so keen on - the ride seemed very harsh for a standard car and the engine reluctant to rev. I did about 10 miles in each car on the dealer launch event. I was then invited to the Aylesbury event and spent a day in a 1.5 sport doing about 130 miles and left very disappointed as I reported earlier due to numerous issues that I hadn't noticed before like the major dead spot around centre in the steering, etc. This car had done about 2500 miles. This week I went along to the Derbyshire dales event as my girlfriend had been invited and drove a 2.0 sport and loved it. The ride seemed much better than the previous 2.0 and the engine reved freely. There was also no dead spot around centre on the steering. This car had done about 2000 miles and I did about 110.
So I've driven 5 new MX5's for about 300 miles in total - 3 have been really good and 2 pretty poor. I was looking to get one right away but have decided I'm going to hold on to my 86 for a while longer (I decided this last week after the disappointing 1.5 drive). The issue I really have though is that the cars seem like a lottery some excellent and some really poor and I must admit this has put me right off. I'd be gutted if I ordered one and got a duffer when I know some of them are so good.
I was invited to the initial launch event and drove a 1.5 sport for about 40 miles and loved it (car had done about 25 miles). I was the invited to the local dealers launch event and drove a 1.5 sport which again I loved (again about 20 miles on it when I drove it) and a 2.0 sport which I wasn't so keen on - the ride seemed very harsh for a standard car and the engine reluctant to rev. I did about 10 miles in each car on the dealer launch event. I was then invited to the Aylesbury event and spent a day in a 1.5 sport doing about 130 miles and left very disappointed as I reported earlier due to numerous issues that I hadn't noticed before like the major dead spot around centre in the steering, etc. This car had done about 2500 miles. This week I went along to the Derbyshire dales event as my girlfriend had been invited and drove a 2.0 sport and loved it. The ride seemed much better than the previous 2.0 and the engine reved freely. There was also no dead spot around centre on the steering. This car had done about 2000 miles and I did about 110.
So I've driven 5 new MX5's for about 300 miles in total - 3 have been really good and 2 pretty poor. I was looking to get one right away but have decided I'm going to hold on to my 86 for a while longer (I decided this last week after the disappointing 1.5 drive). The issue I really have though is that the cars seem like a lottery some excellent and some really poor and I must admit this has put me right off. I'd be gutted if I ordered one and got a duffer when I know some of them are so good.
DeaconFrost said:
I had the chance to spend a day with a 2.0 sport yesterday at the Derbyshire dales event. And it's left me very confused.
I was invited to the initial launch event and drove a 1.5 sport for about 40 miles and loved it (car had done about 25 miles). I was the invited to the local dealers launch event and drove a 1.5 sport which again I loved (again about 20 miles on it when I drove it) and a 2.0 sport which I wasn't so keen on - the ride seemed very harsh for a standard car and the engine reluctant to rev. I did about 10 miles in each car on the dealer launch event. I was then invited to the Aylesbury event and spent a day in a 1.5 sport doing about 130 miles and left very disappointed as I reported earlier due to numerous issues that I hadn't noticed before like the major dead spot around centre in the steering, etc. This car had done about 2500 miles. This week I went along to the Derbyshire dales event as my girlfriend had been invited and drove a 2.0 sport and loved it. The ride seemed much better than the previous 2.0 and the engine reved freely. There was also no dead spot around centre on the steering. This car had done about 2000 miles and I did about 110.
So I've driven 5 new MX5's for about 300 miles in total - 3 have been really good and 2 pretty poor. I was looking to get one right away but have decided I'm going to hold on to my 86 for a while longer (I decided this last week after the disappointing 1.5 drive). The issue I really have though is that the cars seem like a lottery some excellent and some really poor and I must admit this has put me right off. I'd be gutted if I ordered one and got a duffer when I know some of them are so good.
Similar exprience here.I was invited to the initial launch event and drove a 1.5 sport for about 40 miles and loved it (car had done about 25 miles). I was the invited to the local dealers launch event and drove a 1.5 sport which again I loved (again about 20 miles on it when I drove it) and a 2.0 sport which I wasn't so keen on - the ride seemed very harsh for a standard car and the engine reluctant to rev. I did about 10 miles in each car on the dealer launch event. I was then invited to the Aylesbury event and spent a day in a 1.5 sport doing about 130 miles and left very disappointed as I reported earlier due to numerous issues that I hadn't noticed before like the major dead spot around centre in the steering, etc. This car had done about 2500 miles. This week I went along to the Derbyshire dales event as my girlfriend had been invited and drove a 2.0 sport and loved it. The ride seemed much better than the previous 2.0 and the engine reved freely. There was also no dead spot around centre on the steering. This car had done about 2000 miles and I did about 110.
So I've driven 5 new MX5's for about 300 miles in total - 3 have been really good and 2 pretty poor. I was looking to get one right away but have decided I'm going to hold on to my 86 for a while longer (I decided this last week after the disappointing 1.5 drive). The issue I really have though is that the cars seem like a lottery some excellent and some really poor and I must admit this has put me right off. I'd be gutted if I ordered one and got a duffer when I know some of them are so good.
1.5 Sport at Daylesford for a couple of hours was great fun; high revving, tight gearbox, throttle adjustable handling but on the same roads (mix of narrow country B and unsmooth A roads);. the 2.0 Sport was jittery and overpowered but both had great toys inc BOSE Headrest speakers and DRLs.
Yesterday, from Peaks to Staffordshire and back over 3 hours on country B, A and dual carriageway; the 2.0 SE-L Nav was torquey, direct & firm but smooth; only let down by rev limiter in 2nd & 3rd interrupting over-takes, poor Nav route choices, lack of DRLs making it 'invisible' to old folks & L200 drivers in Ashbourne.
IF we were to replace the wife's MINI Coop it could be for a 2 seater coupe BUT will wait to see the Fiat version and consider a pre-owned Coxster or older Mx5 as a weekend, track toy.
SPEC TIP: 1.5 Sport is the best combo of performance, fun, driveability and equipment ON THE ROAD
Edited by J1JPE on Sunday 27th September 11:24
J1JPE said:
Similar exprience here.
1.5 Sport at Daylesford for a couple of hours was great fun; high revving, tight gearbox, throttle adjustable handling but on the same roads (mix of narrow country B and unsmooth A roads);. the 2.0 Sport was jittery and overpowered but both had great toys inc BOSE Headrest speakers and DRLs.
Yesterday, from Peaks to Staffordshire and back over 3 hours on country B, A and dual carriageway; the 2.0 SE-L Nav was torquey, direct & firm but smooth; only let down by rev limiter in 2nd & 3rd interrupting over-takes, poor Nav route choices, lack of DRLs making it 'invisible' to old folks & L200 drivers in Ashbourne.
IF we were to replace the wife's MINI Coop it could be for a 2 seater coupe BUT will wait to see the Fiat version and consider a pre-owned Coxster or older Mx5 as a weekend, track toy.
SPEC TIP: 1.5 Sport is the best combo of performance, fun, driveability and equipment ON THE ROAD
I can understand there being differences in different spec grades like the 2.0 sport to sel but not in 2 cars of the same spec grade (well not to this extent anyway).1.5 Sport at Daylesford for a couple of hours was great fun; high revving, tight gearbox, throttle adjustable handling but on the same roads (mix of narrow country B and unsmooth A roads);. the 2.0 Sport was jittery and overpowered but both had great toys inc BOSE Headrest speakers and DRLs.
Yesterday, from Peaks to Staffordshire and back over 3 hours on country B, A and dual carriageway; the 2.0 SE-L Nav was torquey, direct & firm but smooth; only let down by rev limiter in 2nd & 3rd interrupting over-takes, poor Nav route choices, lack of DRLs making it 'invisible' to old folks & L200 drivers in Ashbourne.
IF we were to replace the wife's MINI Coop it could be for a 2 seater coupe BUT will wait to see the Fiat version and consider a pre-owned Coxster or older Mx5 as a weekend, track toy.
SPEC TIP: 1.5 Sport is the best combo of performance, fun, driveability and equipment ON THE ROAD
Edited by J1JPE on Sunday 27th September 11:24
I also thought the 1.5 sport was the 'pick' until yesterday but the 2.0 sport from yesterday was awesome and would definitely sway me that way.
I'm not with you on the drl point though - they all have them?
SE has halogen DRL
SE-L and Sport has LED DRL
2L engine improves significantly (more responsive and free revving) once run in with decent mileage (I would say at least 1k miles)
suspension differences could be down to tyre pressures
2L Sport generally fine unless road has a busy surface in which case suspension can't cope and becomes brittle/busy/unsettled
SE-L and Sport has LED DRL
2L engine improves significantly (more responsive and free revving) once run in with decent mileage (I would say at least 1k miles)
suspension differences could be down to tyre pressures
2L Sport generally fine unless road has a busy surface in which case suspension can't cope and becomes brittle/busy/unsettled
Well, Jalopnik.com have some grainy photos of the new Fiat 124 without any camo. Not sure it looks cohesive to my eyes, so I think the MX5 has the lead in the styling stakes. Although, the Fiat seems to sit lower.
The NA v turbo argument will ignite the forums, but if the rumours are right, and the Abarth has 240 bhp, it will certainly be fast.
If this is launched at the LA car show in November, we will get some better photos soon. In the meantime, I've booked my (cheap) flights to Geneva for the motor show in March.
The NA v turbo argument will ignite the forums, but if the rumours are right, and the Abarth has 240 bhp, it will certainly be fast.
If this is launched at the LA car show in November, we will get some better photos soon. In the meantime, I've booked my (cheap) flights to Geneva for the motor show in March.
Cabsi said:
Well, Jalopnik.com have some grainy photos of the new Fiat 124 without any camo. Not sure it looks cohesive to my eyes, so I think the MX5 has the lead in the styling stakes. Although, the Fiat seems to sit lower.
The NA v turbo argument will ignite the forums, but if the rumours are right, and the Abarth has 240 bhp, it will certainly be fast.
If this is launched at the LA car show in November, we will get some better photos soon. In the meantime, I've booked my (cheap) flights to Geneva for the motor show in March.
Yikes, looks as bad as I had feared from the photos of camouflaged test-mules...as though it was designed 10 years before the mx5! (to my eyes at least The NA v turbo argument will ignite the forums, but if the rumours are right, and the Abarth has 240 bhp, it will certainly be fast.
If this is launched at the LA car show in November, we will get some better photos soon. In the meantime, I've booked my (cheap) flights to Geneva for the motor show in March.
)Cabsi said:
Well, Jalopnik.com have some grainy photos of the new Fiat 124 without any camo. Not sure it looks cohesive to my eyes, so I think the MX5 has the lead in the styling stakes. Although, the Fiat seems to sit lower.
To those wondering, here are the pictures...http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/09/2017-fi...
I saw that, all Fiats look like Chryslers to me. A shame really. MX-5 looks much better from what I can tell so far.
dpop said:
Took delivery of my 2.0 SE-L last night - very very happy with it!
Here is a poor quality pic from the work parking lot this morning - not even the traffic on the M25 could dampen my mood!
So jealous, still waiting to hear when mine's due! All they can tell me is "October".Here is a poor quality pic from the work parking lot this morning - not even the traffic on the M25 could dampen my mood!
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