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vxr2010

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Saturday 14th May 2016
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Hi any one know if the suspension will fit and work please , car it's supposed to be for is a jdm 2001 Sti wagon , car it's for is a 2004 fsti , the front mounts appear the same , the rear mounts look the same but I know at some point the mounts were changed to a different design or was that just widetrack ? The fsti and impreza is not widetrack , any ideas please thanks

TEKNOPUG

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205 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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vxr2010 said:
Hi any one know if the suspension will fit and work please , car it's supposed to be for is a jdm 2001 Sti wagon , car it's for is a 2004 fsti , the front mounts appear the same , the rear mounts look the same but I know at some point the mounts were changed to a different design or was that just widetrack ? The fsti and impreza is not widetrack , any ideas please thanks
I don't have the part numbers of the FSTi or Newage Wagon STi either, as they're both JDM only. However, Impreza suspension is interchangeable across the years. The top mounts differ between Bug & Blob. They both fit each other but Bug springs only work with Bug mounts and the same for Blob. You can fit Blob springs onto Bug struts, provided you use the Blob mounts and vice versa. The fronts mounts don't change.

The main thing to bare in mind is that there are far greater choice of springs for Blobeyes as they were in production longer, so it can be more convenient to swap to Blob mounts/struts. But if you are only ever fitting OEM springs, it shouldn't be an issue.

vxr2010

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Saturday 14th May 2016
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I have a set of coilovers from Tein that were for the Impreza 2001 sti wagon and I want to fit them on the 04 fsti , I will use the same mounts currently on the fsti so I wonder if that would work , is there some way of working out the different mount types , I did read your reply but I should have mentioned above I assumed they were the same , if they did physically fit our there any other factors ?

MDMA .

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Saturday 14th May 2016
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If you have a few hours spare, worth a read -

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f70/how-tu...

TEKNOPUG

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Saturday 14th May 2016
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vxr2010 said:
I have a set of coilovers from Tein that were for the Impreza 2001 sti wagon and I want to fit them on the 04 fsti , I will use the same mounts currently on the fsti so I wonder if that would work , is there some way of working out the different mount types , I did read your reply but I should have mentioned above I assumed they were the same , if they did physically fit our there any other factors ?
If you fit the Tein units as they are, I'm sure they will fit. If you try and swap the top mounts over, you may run into problems. However, my knowledge runs only as far as the OE units and fitting springs with different top mounts. The Tein coilovers may not have this issue (but my guess is that they would).

As I say, both top mounts fit into any of the cars, but the lower parts of the mounts (that attach to the springs) differ. Therefore you need to match the mounts to the springs, not to the car.

This is a Bugeye strut, with a Bugeye top mount, with a Blobeye spring...



As you can see, the spring doesn't seat inside the mount properly.

I Bought PCA Dynamic springs (as in the photo) but they are Blobeye fitment only. So my Bugeye mounts didn't work (as per the photo). So I bought some Bolobeye mounts and fitted those instead.

I might be making this sound more complicated than it is....hehe

Try fitting the Tein coilovers as the complete unit, you shouldn't need to swap mounts.


vxr2010

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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Hi cheers for the reply , the top mounts in your photo are different to my bugeye Impreza top mounts so i take it I have the newer top mounts , so it appears likely that the top mounts are the same on both my cars , I'm hoping that the coilovers should fit , the Tein ones I have do not come with top mounts , I just need to find some one who can rebuild a shock on the Tein coilovers

MDMA .

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101 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Try Tein UK. Sure they will know who can.

TEKNOPUG

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205 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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vxr2010 said:
Hi cheers for the reply , the top mounts in your photo are different to my bugeye Impreza top mounts so i take it I have the newer top mounts , so it appears likely that the top mounts are the same on both my cars , I'm hoping that the coilovers should fit , the Tein ones I have do not come with top mounts , I just need to find some one who can rebuild a shock on the Tein coilovers
Post a pic of your Tein mounts. I suspect that they use their own mounts. Both OEM top mounts fit all cars. So if a Tein top mount fits one car, it will also fit all the others. It's just the lower spring mounting part that differs on the OEM and requires matching springs.

Personally, I'd just change the springs for PCA or similar and keep the standard strut; I think you'll bugger up the ride with coil-overs and if you wanted something more track-focused and unyielding for daily driving, you'd be better off with an Impreza in the first place.

vxr2010

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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Hi Tein would not say what fits what as it's not what they sell for it , the coilovers did not come with mounts , the mount from the wagon which is what the suspension was bought for is different to the above photo , the suspension on the fsti has done a lot of miles which is why I feel both shock and Spring need doing , the Impreza failed it's mot on one shock , I could not buy one so bought a full set of coilovers , I just changed the rear set of shocks , so I now have a brand new front set one older but very new looking rear shock and one leaking rear shock , if I can get the shock repaired then I basically have a complete set of coilovers for the fsti that's the plan any way

TEKNOPUG

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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vxr2010 said:
Hi Tein would not say what fits what as it's not what they sell for it , the coilovers did not come with mounts , the mount from the wagon which is what the suspension was bought for is different to the above photo , the suspension on the fsti has done a lot of miles which is why I feel both shock and Spring need doing , the Impreza failed it's mot on one shock , I could not buy one so bought a full set of coilovers , I just changed the rear set of shocks , so I now have a brand new front set one older but very new looking rear shock and one leaking rear shock , if I can get the shock repaired then I basically have a complete set of coilovers for the fsti that's the plan any way
Bugeye mounts:

Blobeye mounts:

As you see the bolt pattern is the same and therefore the both fit either car. Only the bottom is different and requires matching springs.

Your car will have the later Blobeye mounts I'm certain.

I have a pair of new, unused Bugeye rear mounts, so if you took those, you'd have both bases covered.

Note, the Newage STi Wagon was JDM only and was a Bugeye.

vxr2010

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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Hi I will pm you

TEKNOPUG

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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FSTi rear tops mounts = same as Blobeye:

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts-info?id=1230...

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts-info?id=1020...


Bugeye STi rear mounts:

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts-info?id=6753...


Edited by TEKNOPUG on Sunday 15th May 14:58

vxr2010

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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Cheers for your posts , I know now they won't fit with the current mounts , I will send off the shock to Tein and see if it's repairable at a sensible price they apparently don't do single shocks ? , if it is then two mounts to be bought , if not then it's either buy the proper set which is around 505£ or wait the standard Sti set up well and truly fail , they are looking a bit knackered but car must be on around 135 plus miles now so they must be worn out even if they are still working , I was wondering if a spring will snap I don't know how common that is

TEKNOPUG

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Sunday 15th May 2016
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vxr2010 said:
Cheers for your posts , I know now they won't fit with the current mounts , I will send off the shock to Tein and see if it's repairable at a sensible price they apparently don't do single shocks ? , if it is then two mounts to be bought , if not then it's either buy the proper set which is around 505£ or wait the standard Sti set up well and truly fail , they are looking a bit knackered but car must be on around 135 plus miles now so they must be worn out even if they are still working , I was wondering if a spring will snap I don't know how common that is
Unlikely that the spring will snap. What you'll find is that you will have lost all rebound in the dampers. When I replaced mine, 3 of dampers, you could push in with your hand and then they didn't return!

Worth budgeting to renew all the bushes too. So ARB mounts front and rear and both sets of drop-links too.

vxr2010

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Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Second hand coilovers fitted I've updated the failed mot post

vxr2010

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Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Well for 300£ plus a bit of petrol and about 4 hours to fit , a very good mod to have done , the fsti is much sharper and the ride is not much different regards road manners , the Mrs who drives the car and is not a petrol head even said she thought it was a very good improvement so I got the stamp of approval after spending money on a car always a good thing as I know my place lol , I adjusted the front standard Subaru camber bolts to give as much negative camber as possible the top mounts on the front are set to 0 camber , I was thinking more tyre wear , car is lowered between 3/4 to an inch so only a slight drop I wanted to keep it practical and again not wear tyres out , any one got advice on camber set up plus how much adjustment from Subaru camber bolts , I have not had tracking checked I'm just keeping an eye on tyre wear as in theory suspension change as its small should not effect tracking , any input from any one regards tracking or camber would be appreciated thanks