New MX5OC forum?

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NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,289 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Just seen this.

1. yuck I have to say it looks utterly vile, layout is crappy and it doesn't look like the old site is migrating to the new one, so it means 2 sites to search for answers now... frown

2. it seems to want your real name to log in - I did what it said (assuming it wanted it for registration purposes, and now that's my login rolleyes )

3. why? What was broken with the old one!?

Raify

6,552 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I couldn't even figure out how to / be bothered to, complete the registration process. I've given up on this and started using Nutz

MonkeyBusiness

3,936 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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NiceCupOfTea said:
3. why? What was broken with the old one!?
Eggerzackly

maz8062

2,245 posts

215 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I used to frequent the old site, but don't bother anymore with either.

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,289 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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What a shame; it was a really good source of info...

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I rarely use the new site but then I rarely used the old site.
On the new site you can set your forum name to be whatever you want in your user profile, it just defaults to your real name.
There are some good things about the new forum and it does tie in better with the website. Whether that's actually required is a different question, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it evolves.

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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The "old" forum was great - easy to navigate and lively. The new one has been a major flop it seems. There's about 3 posts per day made on it. Needless to say I use miata.net and nutz as a "technical" database and this forum for the banter now! frown

paul99

801 posts

243 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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The layout is shocking, so much wasted space and seemingly pointless features, i find it irritating to navigate and theres far too many subforums so even if there was loads of people using it it would still look dead.

Its a shame as it was quite a good forum before.

Edited by paul99 on Tuesday 23 December 09:20

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Don't know why they didn't just use vBulletin like 90% of other successful web forums out there

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I liked the forum itself as it was before and I liked the majority of the people but there were some that really p1ssed me off. It seems some people can't have a different opinion, they have to tell everyone that they are right and therefore everyone else is wrong! I've given up trying to say that 17" wheels don't cause bad handling and tram-lining - heavy wheels and incorrect offset cause that. There are plenty of heavy 15" wheels out there! Anyway, that's not today's discussion.

Nutz seems to have much more reasonable people that accept that there is more than just black and white. True there are a few that argue but they usually get beaten down quickly.

PH seems like a much more friendly place though. I seem to spend most of my time split between here and PlanetMX5 with occasional visits to Nutz (too busy for me to keep up with at work) and the odd look at OC wink.

maz8062

2,245 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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MX-5 Lazza said:
I've given up trying to say that 17" wheels don't cause bad handling and tram-lining - heavy wheels and incorrect offset cause that. There are plenty of heavy 15" wheels out there! Anyway, that's not today's discussion.
Your 17's on an NA would not handle well. Oz Superturismo's are heavy compared to Super/Ultralegerra's so the added weight over most 15's would defintely blunt performance. I've personally tried a set of Kei racing Force 10's, 17x7 ET 40 with GSD3 205/40 ZR17 and the handling was abysmall. It could just be an NA/NB trait, but there definetely is a difference.


Edited by maz8062 on Tuesday 23 December 10:07

vdubbin

2,165 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I've recently registers on OC and Nutz, and the negativity on OC is pretty rampant, whereas nutz still has a good community vibe about it. I've used that BB software on other forums as well, it's a PITA as it doesn't use BBCode tags (which I have set up in short keys), just HTML (which I don't so I have to type out all the tags/use the point'n'click interface, neither of which are particularly quick.

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Oh, I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I'm just saying it doesn't ruin the handling, it just changes it.
With my lightweight 15" wheel compared to my heavier (not heavy for 17") 17" OZ SuperT the car turns in sharper & accelerates quicker but feels less stable at speed and is "busier" on rough roads. Neither shows any sign of tram-lining.

When I had a Mk1 Berkeley I swapped the wheels for a set of 15" Superlegerra which looked great and were half the weight of the Berkeley wheels but the handling felt worse! I can't remember what the offset was, possibly 38 compared but within spec anyway. I'd swapped the tyres (Bridgestone SO3) from the old wheels to the new ones so the tyres & alignment were the same. With the OZ SuperLs it was crashy over bumps and tram-lined badly. It seems tyres with stiff sidewalls like SO3 need heavier wheels inside them to make them work, otherwise, instead of the tyre absorbing minor bumps it puts the shock through the suspension.

There is more to wheel/tyre/alignment choice than just: lightest wheel possible + sticky tyres with stiff sidewalls + WiM fast road alignment. Everything has to be considered together as a package. On lotus forums for example they advise Elise owners not to use Toyo R888/Yoko AO48 unless they upgrade the suspension as they grip too much for the standard suspension to cope with which causes too much roll putting the car on the bump-stops on hard cornering...

Nobody seems to accept my findings though. On OC forum I was told I was wrong and that the lighter wheels must have handled better.




Isn't this supposed to be an anti MX5OC Forum thread?