Incoming… what do you have? (Vol. 3)
Discussion
PJ S said:
Define very expensive?
Only the white dial version left now – http://deepbluewatches.com/datswetaau47.html
If you don't want to bother with self importing, speak to Marcin at Atomic Time about getting it for you.
Or further afield – http://www.watchpartners.com.au/deep-blue/daynight...
thanks. seems very reasonable given the movement etc. like it a lot,Only the white dial version left now – http://deepbluewatches.com/datswetaau47.html
If you don't want to bother with self importing, speak to Marcin at Atomic Time about getting it for you.
Or further afield – http://www.watchpartners.com.au/deep-blue/daynight...
like this one too.
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 29th June 15:10
PJ S said:
CardShark said:
That was my first thought however the bracelet, bezel and case shape aren't typical of Ball divers. I'm going for Deep Blue's Daynight T100, which matches the clue that's been given.
This owner's photo pretty much sold me on it.Good comparison between trit tubes and superluminova and the like here -
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/tritium-tubes-tgls...
Notable difference between the T25 and T100 tubes
Edited by CardShark on Monday 30th June 00:19
ecain63 said:
He's at CHF as sea king crew. Was door gunner and loady in afghan. Joined up with him. Think he did SAR for a bit too.
There's a few old and bold around here that you may know though. Here's the poster of the Breitling RM350 watch. Excuse the poor pic and I've cropped the bottom to remove the pussers email address.dai1983 said:
ecain63 said:
He's at CHF as sea king crew. Was door gunner and loady in afghan. Joined up with him. Think he did SAR for a bit too.
There's a few old and bold around here that you may know though. Here's the poster of the Breitling RM350 watch. Excuse the poor pic and I've cropped the bottom to remove the pussers email address.I tried to post something similar at the weekend but my Blackberry wasn't playing ball...
So, Ben Bridge Jewelers (Memorial City Mall, Houston, Texas) emailed me last week to say they had the new Ceramic Sea-Dweller 4000 in stock.
I had been waiting a long time to try this on, since it was first announced, as the 'old' 16600 was always my grail and I was lucky enough to buy one at the back end of last year. Surely the new one could only be an improvement.
Ben Bridge is a particularly good setting for trying on the Sports Rolexes as they have a great selection. I had a DSSD, Hulk, a ceramic ND Sub, numerous Date Sub variations, GMT IIc, Explorer IIs etc on hand to compare against.
First and foremost - The new SD4000c does look FANTASTIC! I am a big fan of the matte dial and ceramic bezel and the new clasp does feel a lot more 'solid' than the old style clasp and the overall impression of 'solidity' and engineering felt unquestionable. When sat next to a new Sub, they are much more 'round' in appearance with the thinner lugs and what looks like much 'smaller' crown protectors. The SD makes the Hulk look positively 'square', which I don't like.
It is, without doubt, my absolute favourite watch in the world. An absolute classic in design-terms and a proper piece of engineering with an in-house movement etc etc. For me, it is definitely the 'pick' of the Rolex Sports range.
So, why don't I have it on my wrist as I am typing (freshly serviced Coke GMT II today)? Well, quite simply, it's too expensive. Since I am moving back tot he UK this month, I would be able to walk away paying £6,100 to Ben Bridge (ok, prices vary and could maybe save a bit more in Italy). That's no small amount of money but I do have watches to flip. The issue is... It just isn't that different to the 16600SD.
Yes, the bezel and clasp are 'better' and arguably look nicer but you'd only notice if you were handling the watch. If you already owned an SD and wanted to upgrade without telling the missus, there is every chance in the world that she would never notice the difference. It is fantastic that they have updated the watch so sympathetically and respectfully but that's also the problem... The 16600SD and 116600SD are virtually identical on the wrist.
Which brings us back to price. Unless very wealthy or a serious collector, there seems very little point in owning both models. So I thought about flipping my 16600SD. When you look at the figures, the cost to change is probably around £2k. Are the bezel and clasp worth £2k? I just don't see it. The other option is to sell my old SD and add say my Zenith EP 1969... Is it worth giving up two watches to get one back that is almost identical to one that was sold? No.
The reality is - the new watch is my grail and I love it. The problem is that it is around 50% more than the cost of the old one, which just seems crazy. I am also in the process of leaving Houston and my job (not by choice, massive visa clusterf*ck) and without job security, I'd be mad paying £2k for 'nothing'. So, I am going to see if they 'drop' a bit on the grey/ 2nd hand market (I think they might and they have been trading on US eBay in the £5s) and review the situation when I am a little more flush!
So, Ben Bridge Jewelers (Memorial City Mall, Houston, Texas) emailed me last week to say they had the new Ceramic Sea-Dweller 4000 in stock.
I had been waiting a long time to try this on, since it was first announced, as the 'old' 16600 was always my grail and I was lucky enough to buy one at the back end of last year. Surely the new one could only be an improvement.
Ben Bridge is a particularly good setting for trying on the Sports Rolexes as they have a great selection. I had a DSSD, Hulk, a ceramic ND Sub, numerous Date Sub variations, GMT IIc, Explorer IIs etc on hand to compare against.
First and foremost - The new SD4000c does look FANTASTIC! I am a big fan of the matte dial and ceramic bezel and the new clasp does feel a lot more 'solid' than the old style clasp and the overall impression of 'solidity' and engineering felt unquestionable. When sat next to a new Sub, they are much more 'round' in appearance with the thinner lugs and what looks like much 'smaller' crown protectors. The SD makes the Hulk look positively 'square', which I don't like.
It is, without doubt, my absolute favourite watch in the world. An absolute classic in design-terms and a proper piece of engineering with an in-house movement etc etc. For me, it is definitely the 'pick' of the Rolex Sports range.
So, why don't I have it on my wrist as I am typing (freshly serviced Coke GMT II today)? Well, quite simply, it's too expensive. Since I am moving back tot he UK this month, I would be able to walk away paying £6,100 to Ben Bridge (ok, prices vary and could maybe save a bit more in Italy). That's no small amount of money but I do have watches to flip. The issue is... It just isn't that different to the 16600SD.
Yes, the bezel and clasp are 'better' and arguably look nicer but you'd only notice if you were handling the watch. If you already owned an SD and wanted to upgrade without telling the missus, there is every chance in the world that she would never notice the difference. It is fantastic that they have updated the watch so sympathetically and respectfully but that's also the problem... The 16600SD and 116600SD are virtually identical on the wrist.
Which brings us back to price. Unless very wealthy or a serious collector, there seems very little point in owning both models. So I thought about flipping my 16600SD. When you look at the figures, the cost to change is probably around £2k. Are the bezel and clasp worth £2k? I just don't see it. The other option is to sell my old SD and add say my Zenith EP 1969... Is it worth giving up two watches to get one back that is almost identical to one that was sold? No.
The reality is - the new watch is my grail and I love it. The problem is that it is around 50% more than the cost of the old one, which just seems crazy. I am also in the process of leaving Houston and my job (not by choice, massive visa clusterf*ck) and without job security, I'd be mad paying £2k for 'nothing'. So, I am going to see if they 'drop' a bit on the grey/ 2nd hand market (I think they might and they have been trading on US eBay in the £5s) and review the situation when I am a little more flush!
don logan said:
dai1983 said:
ecain63 said:
He's at CHF as sea king crew. Was door gunner and loady in afghan. Joined up with him. Think he did SAR for a bit too.
There's a few old and bold around here that you may know though. Here's the poster of the Breitling RM350 watch. Excuse the poor pic and I've cropped the bottom to remove the pussers email address.Had this turn up a couple weeks ago so thought I'd bung in in, apologies for the poor photo!
Thought it was going to be enormous, which it is to be honest, but only slightly bigger than a tag heuer formula 1. Big but on the right side of ridiculous IMO.
Matt finish on the bracelet seems to mark and scratch fairly easily, but overall very pleased. I really like the three changeable bezels, though prefer the black and bronze ones.
Arrived this morning, so sellers pic for the time being
Together with my KonTiki & ScubaPro
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=10&...
I'm very happy with my trio of classic 70's divers (and the Red Sub).
Together with my KonTiki & ScubaPro
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=10&...
I'm very happy with my trio of classic 70's divers (and the Red Sub).
Edited by andy tims on Thursday 3rd July 10:22
andy tims said:
Arrived this morning, so sellers pic for the time being
Together with my KonTiki & ScubaPro
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=10&...
I'm very happy with my trio of classic 70's divers (and the Red Sub).
That's in rather nice condition for it's age Andy. Congrats.Together with my KonTiki & ScubaPro
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=10&...
I'm very happy with my trio of classic 70's divers (and the Red Sub).
Edited by andy tims on Thursday 3rd July 10:22
Quinny said:
Yes it was the same, but rolex modified it, for the Daytona.....
I'm not sure I'll ever understand why the Daytona lost its date and the 36,000bph I get it was for 'longevity' or whatever but these Zeniths (I have one) seem to run and last just fine!
I may well have a 16610 on it's way in, potentially bought for silly money... May not be able to say no!
dom9 said:
I tried to post something similar at the weekend but my Blackberry wasn't playing ball...
So, Ben Bridge Jewelers (Memorial City Mall, Houston, Texas) emailed me last week to say they had the new Ceramic Sea-Dweller 4000 in stock.
I had been waiting a long time to try this on, since it was first announced, as the 'old' 16600 was always my grail and I was lucky enough to buy one at the back end of last year. Surely the new one could only be an improvement.
Ben Bridge is a particularly good setting for trying on the Sports Rolexes as they have a great selection. I had a DSSD, Hulk, a ceramic ND Sub, numerous Date Sub variations, GMT IIc, Explorer IIs etc on hand to compare against.
First and foremost - The new SD4000c does look FANTASTIC! I am a big fan of the matte dial and ceramic bezel and the new clasp does feel a lot more 'solid' than the old style clasp and the overall impression of 'solidity' and engineering felt unquestionable. When sat next to a new Sub, they are much more 'round' in appearance with the thinner lugs and what looks like much 'smaller' crown protectors. The SD makes the Hulk look positively 'square', which I don't like.
It is, without doubt, my absolute favourite watch in the world. An absolute classic in design-terms and a proper piece of engineering with an in-house movement etc etc. For me, it is definitely the 'pick' of the Rolex Sports range.
I must get around to have a close look at one and get it on my wrist....especially after such glowing reports.So, Ben Bridge Jewelers (Memorial City Mall, Houston, Texas) emailed me last week to say they had the new Ceramic Sea-Dweller 4000 in stock.
I had been waiting a long time to try this on, since it was first announced, as the 'old' 16600 was always my grail and I was lucky enough to buy one at the back end of last year. Surely the new one could only be an improvement.
Ben Bridge is a particularly good setting for trying on the Sports Rolexes as they have a great selection. I had a DSSD, Hulk, a ceramic ND Sub, numerous Date Sub variations, GMT IIc, Explorer IIs etc on hand to compare against.
First and foremost - The new SD4000c does look FANTASTIC! I am a big fan of the matte dial and ceramic bezel and the new clasp does feel a lot more 'solid' than the old style clasp and the overall impression of 'solidity' and engineering felt unquestionable. When sat next to a new Sub, they are much more 'round' in appearance with the thinner lugs and what looks like much 'smaller' crown protectors. The SD makes the Hulk look positively 'square', which I don't like.
It is, without doubt, my absolute favourite watch in the world. An absolute classic in design-terms and a proper piece of engineering with an in-house movement etc etc. For me, it is definitely the 'pick' of the Rolex Sports range.
Unlike you though, my choice will be easy and the SD4000c will get the nod over my 16610 Sub because of the advantages of the maxi dial and matte dial with my ageing eyesight
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