Incoming… what do you have? (Vol. 3)
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Picked this up a few weeks ago now with 20% off through a discount I got through work. Was considering a pre-owned Seamaster, but very happy with this. The 01/03's are just a bit too big for my liking. Playing about with a few different straps at the moment, but seem to keep going back to the one pictured.
mackie1 said:
As in it loses a few minutes per day? Since it's certified I'd have thought they'd fix that for you.
It seems to run up to five minutes slow max and then doesn't go any slower. I've had it serviced and everything is fine so I've no idea why it keeps doing it, it's really frustrating. It's not even a few minutes per day, it just seems to want to be five minutes behind the actual time - all the time. 
Lauryn said:
I would say less than a week and it's running a couple of minutes behind the real time.
Then it’s running out of spec, which is -4/+6 per day, and covered by the 2 year service guarantee, if done by Rolex or an accredited independent. Even a good non-approved independent would stand over it for 12 months, at least. In other words, you shouldn’t be more than 42 seconds fast or 28 seconds slow after a week.
Doesn’t sound like it was serviced correctly, since a watch has no idea of how fast or slow it’s running, so it can’t decide not to keep getting slower once it’s 5 minutes slow – so some’s not right with it.
Quite so. Lauryn - if i were you i'd start getting geeky about the accuracy you're seeing. My suggestion would be to set the watch accurately* at say, 9am in the morning, then check again 24 hours later and see how many seconds behind you are. Do this for a few days and you'll build up a picture as to exactly how much time your losing and whether it's the same amount each day, or a more erratic pattern. Do it for long enough and you'll be able to confirm whether it stops losing time at -5mins, as that does sound odd.
When i got my Zenith it was really quite disappointing to find it losing about 30 seconds a day iirc. Took it back to the shop I bought it from, who sent it off to Zenith. Since then it's gained about 3 seconds a day, which is fine by me. In addition they sent it back in a padded travel case that has been incredibly handy ever since.
When i got my Zenith it was really quite disappointing to find it losing about 30 seconds a day iirc. Took it back to the shop I bought it from, who sent it off to Zenith. Since then it's gained about 3 seconds a day, which is fine by me. In addition they sent it back in a padded travel case that has been incredibly handy ever since.
- I use atomic clock websites as, for geekish reasons, this pleases me
. Also, it's much easier if your watch has has a stop-sections (hacking) function.
I think some equate Rolex ownership as akin to operating at a some higher psychological plane or being part of a reverential society like The Pitt Club or being on the mailing list of Bilderberg attendees. Rollies are nice, but it's a shame when people think they are the one and only; the "only Watch Worth Bearing!"
Of the 200k watches for sale each day on Chrono24, something like 15-18% of all stock is Rolex! They ain't exactly rare items. In fact, someone walking around with a Steinhart or a Christopher whatever is rocking a far rarer specimen than those who are proudly flashing their Subs or Seas as if they've made the big time.
Sure, there is a formidable homage industry out there around what is, fundamentally, a design classic. But the other side of the coin is that a diver watch has to follow some fairly parochial standards which mean a lot of them do end up as much of a muchness and quite similar if you cared to ask an opinion of an alien form from a far and distant Spiral galaxy.
For what it's worth, and I think another poster touched on it, Tudor aren't plagiarising anyone but their own catalogue when putting the Black Bay and Pelagos into the market. Nope.
In particular, the 79220N is just a modern version of the 7922
This...
...is simply an update of this...
The 7922 was released in 1956, alongside the Rolex 6538. Indeed some speculate that the Tudor actually came out a bit earlier, but timelines are murky. Either way, that only indicates that Rolex/Tudor - is revisiting something that goes back more than half a century, not feeding a homage industry.
There are a few good reasons for it too. Primarily, vintage is in. Vintage sells, and there is significant marketshare to capture for those who cater to it. But Rolex in the main is a staid outfit. They know there are gazillions of blinkered Joes out there who all they want "...is a Rolex, mate". So they rarely update their catalogue and maintain design conceits for ages. For good and bad, it locks them in on their moneymaker: generally people love the Sub and its offshoot the Dweller (less so the roided-out DeepSea). But horophiles - a subset of buyers - really go crazy for are the vintage pieces. A big dome 5513, or a 6538 really gets people wet.
So, what do you do if you are Rolex? You don't update your watch designs too much, and are conservative by nature. You also see a growth market. You also know there is a huge resale and preowned market that you can't control, and it's a fine line between b
dising new sales and feeding the legends to keep people onto the brand. You aren't Omega with Quartz ladies at one end, and coelacanth-rare Tourbillons on the other.So, you leverage the Tudor brand to play back into the market you can't pivot the mother brand onto.
It suits Rolex to have people lusting after a 6538. But it will be a seismic moment for them to realise anything other than a warmed up 116610 on the next round. But get a Black Bay out there that brings back the past? Well, they keep collectors happy, they generate great press and according to industry sentiment, are making a killing.
To lay the cards out, I'll happily get a 5512 with the zinc sulfide when one comes up. The right one. I'll also happily add a 79220N to the box when I've worked through some other hunts, so I just like them for what they are. But being clear, the Tudor is certainly no homage, or a vehicle for those who want to sell the wrong message. Nope. It's a revitalised number from a company that's got a great back catalogue.
Simple.
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