Military Watch Magazine

[yeti]

NeMiSiS said:

Well put.

Indeed. And I'll happily stand corrected by someone who knows more

Still don't want them though, would not recommend them and am pretty sure that doesn't make me a snob

[yeti]

pete a said:

Not Chinese crap after all so comment with no prior knowledge is in fact not irrefutable fact but indeed snobbery.

Yes it is Chinese, with a Japanese movement which Variomatic has guessed as to the type of. I guess 'crap' has several definitions; in terms of whether it's value for money, chucked in with a magazine, I'm sure it's good value. Will it survive a dip in a pool, taking a knock or be in one piece in a year... Possibly not

I, personally still wish to call it 'crap', that's my choice by my definition. It's not snobbishness to me, it might be to you.

[yeti]

pete a said:

Stop beings snobs you lot...

...yes I can afford a Patek if I wanted one.

[pete a]

MYOB said:

Are you Michael Gould in disguise?

No, but I think Michael Gould might be Archie Luxury in disguise.

[Variomatic]

yeti said:

Yes it is Chinese, with a Japanese movement which Variomatic has guessed as to the type of. I guess 'crap' has several definitions; in terms of whether it's value for money, chucked in with a magazine, I'm sure it's good value. Will it survive a dip in a pool, taking a knock or be in one piece in a year... Possibly not

I, personally still wish to call it 'crap', that's my choice by my definition. It's not snobbishness to me, it might be to you.

Don't forget that I have a (genuine) Gucci on my bench at the moment with "made in China" inside the case. Ok, given my personal opinion of Gucci watches and Rolex handbags, that doesn't really discount "crap" but just sayin'

As for the rest, I have to agree that, when qualified regarding overall durability the word may well fit. But it's a tenner with free toilet paper included

Incidentally, the guess re movements is simply because they're by far the cheapest Japanese movements out there simply because of the volume they're produced in. When the 1 billionth 2035 came off the production line (over a decade ago now) they had a little celebration deal and sold them for 75p each, including Sony battery, shipping to the UK and whatever profit the materials houses were making. Even now they're only 5p more each than the cheapest of the Chinese stuff, for a really rather good, if aging, movement.

[arsenalmorris]

michael gould said:

pete a said:

Stop beings snobs you lot, just because you can afford a Patek Philippe does not mean that you always have to wear one or that wearing anything else is somehow below you and you feel the need to belittle someone for doing so, my father and I have both been buying these magazines, the watches are more of an interest in terms of the design of the originals they are based upon and in fact there is something quite amusing about wearing a watch that came on the front of a £10 magazine, no they are not great quality but that's not the point, it's a bit of fun for very little expense and the SBS sub homage on this edition fits my 8 year old son perfectly and looks good on him, and my dad likes his too.

Relax and remember life is for enjoying, and before you ask, yes I can afford a Patek if I wanted one.

Total bks ......the guy obviously is promoting the product ......and if your father and yourself have been buying the magazine well .....jolly well done

Are you under 14 ?

Ha yea I am promoting it rnt I, NO!!!!!

I was simply making people aware of a magazine as some people might not of seen the adverts end of, Wont bother next time to get people moaning at me for trying to be helpful and telling me about my new Job I haven't got working as a promoter for various magazine companies.

Edited by arsenalmorris on Wednesday 19th March 00:03

[clonmult]

Variomatic said:

yeti said:

[...]it was pointed out they are cheap Chinese crap. That is an irrefutable fact, not snobbishness

Except that they have Japanese movements which means, as a minimum standard, Hattori PC21 which has been used by Seiko Corp in Lorus watches retailing at £25 - £40 or so over the years. It's reliable, good battery life, and cheap / easy to source and replace if needed.

They may even use Miyota 2035 - all metal, fully repairable, originally developed for full-price Citizens then sidelined over the years into budget brands at a price that makes repair pointless. Probably the most successful watch movement ever with well over a billion units produced.

So -

Cheap? Yes, but does anyone really expect a £10 magazine to have a watch genuinely worth more than the cover price attached?

Crap? Depends entirely how you define it but, given how reliable and successful they are, the only valid reason for calling the PC21 or 2035 crap without qualifying the comment is snob value.

My son (12 years old) absolutely loves this magazine and the watches, its a cheap and accessible way to get him into watches. His addiction is now being fed ...

[yeti]

arsenalmorris said:

Ha yea I am promoting it rnt I, NO!!!!!

I was simply making people aware of a magazine as some people might not of seen the adverts end of, Wont bother next time to get people moaning at me for trying to be helpful and telling me about my new Job blah blah blah

Jesus, are you like this on every thread that doesn't go your way?

Grow a pair, it's a discussion forum. Discuss, don't cry.

[yeti]

Variomatic said:

Even now they're only 5p more each than the cheapest of the Chinese stuff, for a really rather good, if aging, movement.

Cool, thanks very much for lesson. The PH schooldays are always fun

[clonmult]

arsenalmorris said:

Ha yea I am promoting it rnt I, NO!!!!!

I was simply making people aware of a magazine as some people might not of seen the adverts end of, Wont bother next time to get people moaning at me for trying to be helpful and telling me about my new Job I haven't got working as a promoter for various magazine companies.

Either you're promoting it, or you're 10 years old.

You don't get a "free watch" with the magazine. You pay for it.

They aren't even selling genuine military watches, they're just vague copies inspired by the original.

I'll admit that after seeing the second issue (Luftwaffe Aviator), I did actually like it and went and bought the magazine. Its a surprisingly comfortable beater. Don't expect it to last that long.

[don logan]

clonmult said:

arsenalmorris said:

Ha yea I am promoting it rnt I, NO!!!!!

I was simply making people aware of a magazine as some people might not of seen the adverts end of, Wont bother next time to get people moaning at me for trying to be helpful and telling me about my new Job I haven't got working as a promoter for various magazine companies.

Either you're promoting it, or you're 10 years old.

You don't get a "free watch" with the magazine. You pay for it.

They aren't even selling genuine military watches, they're just vague copies inspired by the original.

I'll admit that after seeing the second issue (Luftwaffe Aviator), I did actually like it and went and bought the magazine. Its a surprisingly comfortable beater. Don't expect it to last that long.

I would have thought a life expectancy of 3 months for that price but apparently they have a 2 year guarantee!

[anonymous-user]

Sorry I'm a bit lost in this thread, do you have to be able to afford a Patek to buy the £6 magazine watch?

[Hoofy]

el stovey said:

Sorry I'm a bit lost in this thread, do you have to be able to afford a Patek to buy the £6 magazine watch?

No, you should be able to afford a Patek to use PH. But as you're a company director, you can afford it. That said, the smaller classic Pateks will look odd on massive powerfully-built wrists.

[yeti]

Hoofy said:

No, you should be able to afford a Patek to use PH. But as you're a company director, you can afford it. That said, the smaller classic Pateks will look odd on massive powerfully-built wrists.

Ah. Got it, thanks.

[marcosgt]

yeti said:

Hoofy said:

No, you should be able to afford a Patek to use PH. But as you're a company director, you can afford it. That said, the smaller classic Pateks will look odd on massive powerfully-built wrists.

Ah. Got it, thanks.

I'm sure there's a filter that stops you getting on PH if you can't afford a Patek isn't there?

Obviously I lied about not being able to afford one... it's the Werther's Original advertising that puts me off!

No-one answered my question about the Italian Diver's edition...

M.

[michael gould]

pete a said:

MYOB said:

Are you Michael Gould in disguise?

No, but I think Michael Gould might be Archie Luxury in disguise.

ha ha im not that fat and i don't use the F word as much as him

[michael gould]

don logan said:

Get a fking grip, it's £6! SIX POUNDS!

You buy it, taunt people by asking them what they think you paid for it (from 10 feet away) have a smile to yourself about it and if and when it breaks you can shoot it!

Until then it cost £6, think it's crap? Know it's crap? So don't buy one!

May as well trawl all threads for super cheap stuff that you'd NEVER consider buying and say it's all crap for the sake of it!

o er you sound like me

[Hugo a Gogo]

seiko epson movement, stainless steel case, waterproof, leather strap on the last one

not exactly lucky bag watches, well worth 10 quid

[michael gould]

Hugo a Gogo said:

seiko epson movement, stainless steel case, waterproof, leather strap on the last one

not exactly lucky bag watches, well worth 10 quid

nice !

[clonmult]

Hugo a Gogo said:

seiko epson movement, stainless steel case, waterproof, leather strap on the last one

not exactly lucky bag watches, well worth 10 quid

It was the second that came with a leather strap. The third (Rolex Sub copy) and first had mildly unpleasant nylon straps. The release dates have been all over the place.