Another what watch thread - £3500

Another what watch thread - £3500

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Debaser

5,768 posts

261 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
yeti said:
Madness60 said:
Much as I appreciate the arguments for a Rolex, this is where my money would go!
>splutter<

WHY???
I agree with Madness60, a nice brand with a great movement. How well do they hold their money?

Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 18th April 13:16
What's great about the movement? (Genuine question - I don't know a lot about Bremont).

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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dom9 said:
Where did I say not to look at or post alternatives? The Sub was mentioned, that is presumably his favourite…..
Why his favourite? Could it not be a case of being the only expensive brand he's aware of?
Many Rolex buyers haven't the foggiest other brands like Grand Seiko, Glashutte Original, etc exist, and may offer something more desirable than a bog-ordinary, run-of-the-mill, mass-produced piece of horological man jewellery.

Of the other two mentioned, you'll be wearing something that not everyone and their sister has (genuine, fake, or 'homaged'), and which is hand assembled.
Oddly this is exactly the sort of thing a Dornbluth is borne from, and we know how well received and regarded they are on here!

dom9

8,068 posts

209 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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PJ S said:
Why his favourite? Could it not be a case of being the only expensive brand he's aware of?
Many Rolex buyers haven't the foggiest other brands like Grand Seiko, Glashutte Original, etc exist, and may offer something more desirable than a bog-ordinary, run-of-the-mill, mass-produced piece of horological man jewellery.

Of the other two mentioned, you'll be wearing something that not everyone and their sister has (genuine, fake, or 'homaged'), and which is hand assembled.
Oddly this is exactly the sort of thing a Dornbluth is borne from, and we know how well received and regarded they are on here!
Are you on your period?

OP clearly said:
I always promised myself a Rolex Submariner but think i may struggle at this budget to get a good used one with papers etc.
So, he wants a Sub but wasn't sure he could afford one; PROMISED HIMSELF ONE.

So, seems reasonable to suggest that if that's what he wants then that's what he should hold out for.

So, again, where was it written that other people shouldn't post alternatives? I was just letting the OP know if that's what he wants, then that's what he should hold out for.

Seriously; I don't understand what's wrong with some of the people in here. It's like they can't read.

findtomdotcom

689 posts

240 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Debaser said:
findtomdotcom said:
yeti said:
Madness60 said:
Much as I appreciate the arguments for a Rolex, this is where my money would go!
>splutter<

WHY???
I agree with Madness60, a nice brand with a great movement. How well do they hold their money?

Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 18th April 13:16
What's great about the movement? (Genuine question - I don't know a lot about Bremont).
Well...

From the Bremont website:
Modified calibre 13 1/4” BE-93-2AE automatic chronometer
21 jewels
Glucydur balance
Anachron balance spring
Nivaflex 1 mainspring
28,800 bph
42-hour power reserve
Bremont moulded and skeletonised decorated rotor
C.O.S.C.

But it's not just the moment, as I understand it (and someone more knowledgeable will correct me if I'm wrong), it is set in a faraday cage and designed to withstand ejection from an aircraft (Martin Baker Seat), without losing time...

Incidentally, you can't buy a MBI unless you ejected from an aircraft using a Martin Baker ejection seat.

Oh and one more thing, it's British!!!


Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 18th April 23:18

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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dom9 said:
OP clearly said:
I always promised myself a Rolex Submariner but think i may struggle at this budget to get a good used one with papers etc.
So, he wants a Sub but wasn't sure he could afford one; PROMISED HIMSELF ONE.

So, seems reasonable to suggest that if that's what he wants then that's what he should hold out for.
Yes, yes……but again I point out he may've only promised himself one because that's the only expensive brand he's familiar with, due to heavy marketing exposure.
And similarly his alternative – Omega.

If the only places you spend looking at watches are the archetypal high street jewellers, then you're going to come away with a very narrow appreciation of what brands exist, and a misguided sense that because O and R are so ubiquitous, that they're the only ones worthy of consideration – which is plain nonsense.

Sadly, since asking the OP hasn't bothered to check his thread and enlighten us as to what research he's done, why he's only mentioned those two, and if he's remotely aware or interested in something that only certain people will appreciate, if they even notice it.

If he wants all the cachet that comes with an O and R, then he's best sticking with them, as everyone will nod sagely (or is it parsley?) at his new wrist adornment, and he won't have to explain that it comes from Germany or Japan, and is hand-produced in limited numbers.

Of course, after all this, he'll probably end up with a TH Carrera for £3K, and think it's the bog's dollocks.

Edited by PJ S on Saturday 19th April 11:44

dom9

8,068 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Ok, let's not clog this any further... All I meant was I'm sure he'll appreciate the other alternatives and it was GOOD to post them, I'm just saying to go with his heart if that's what it's set on!

Happy Easter one and all!

HarrySmash

459 posts

139 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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dom9 said:
Ok, let's not clog this any further... All I meant was I'm sure he'll appreciate the other alternatives and it was GOOD to post them, I'm just saying to go with his heart if that's what it's set on!

Happy Easter one and all!
+1

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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I think you may be closer the a Sub 16610 than you may think. I've had my immaculate 2008 16610 on the market for a couple of weeks with not a huge amount of interest at £4,100. Perhaps the market for these just not as strong as everyone believes?

yeti

10,523 posts

275 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
From the Bremont website:
Blah blah marketing guff
It's COSC, sure but even Invicta can afford to buy ETA COSC movements these days, they are a few hundred dollars - yeah they spec some nice stuff like Soprod modules for their 7750s but they are nothing special whatsoever and many watches have a faraday cage - they're made of metal right?

There is a nice shock absorption system though in the MB-1/2, no argument there. Shame you can only get MB-1 after you've ejected, hopefully you wouldn't need it twice so it's wonderfully pointless... But then so are most watches smile

Bremont are the ULTIMATE in style and marketing over substance at the moment. Good luck to them, it's suckering in plenty laugh

JDiz

1,070 posts

244 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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cannedheat said:
Rolex Explorer?

£3500 will get you a new one in duty free or ~£3700 will bag one from Blowers/Iconic.
I'm just starting to look for ideas for my 40th, are the explorer iis in white really available for that price in duty free?

findtomdotcom

689 posts

240 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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yeti said:
findtomdotcom said:
From the Bremont website:
Blah blah marketing guff
It's COSC, sure but even Invicta can afford to buy ETA COSC movements these days, they are a few hundred dollars - yeah they spec some nice stuff like Soprod modules for their 7750s but they are nothing special whatsoever and many watches have a faraday cage - they're made of metal right?

There is a nice shock absorption system though in the MB-1/2, no argument there. Shame you can only get MB-1 after you've ejected, hopefully you wouldn't need it twice so it's wonderfully pointless... But then so are most watches smile

Bremont are the ULTIMATE in style and marketing over substance at the moment. Good luck to them, it's suckering in plenty laugh
Really? I don't profess to be an expert but why do you say that? Do you have some insider knowledge on Bremount or is that just your considered opinion?

don logan

3,520 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I really really fancy an MB2 (OR) on the canvas strap but in 2007 I paid £3,400 for my GMT2C,

If I were to pay £3,400 now for an MB2 would I feel the same about it after 7yrs? (as I do with the GMT2C)

I doubt it!


yeti

10,523 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
Really? I don't profess to be an expert but why do you say that? Do you have some insider knowledge on Bremount or is that just your considered opinion?
It's my considered opinion.

Why would I need 'insider' knowledge of Bremont to know where they get their movements from or see how they push their products? It's there for all to see.

2222

295 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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MB2 get's my vote.
I've had a Daytona for nearly ten years, it just sits in the safe now.

Mindful of the date, an appropriate picture is In order


don logan

3,520 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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2222 said:
MB2 get's my vote.
I've had a Daytona for nearly ten years, it just sits in the safe now.

Mindful of the date, an appropriate picture is In order

You are the first person that I have heard even mention it so far today!

2222

295 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Sad, isn't it.

findtomdotcom

689 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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don logan said:
2222 said:
MB2 get's my vote.
I've had a Daytona for nearly ten years, it just sits in the safe now.

Mindful of the date, an appropriate picture is In order

You are the first person that I have heard even mention it so far today!
Well it gets my vote over a Rolex.

Happy St Georges Day to you too.

don logan

3,520 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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2222 said:
Sad, isn't it.
Almost bizarre!

2222

295 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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don logan said:
2222 said:
Sad, isn't it.
Almost bizarre!
I'm now in the pub drinking English beer and wearing my Jeffery West shoes smile

findtomdotcom

689 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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yeti said:
findtomdotcom said:
Really? I don't profess to be an expert but why do you say that? Do you have some insider knowledge on Bremount or is that just your considered opinion?
It's my considered opinion.

Why would I need 'insider' knowledge of Bremont to know where they get their movements from or see how they push their products? It's there for all to see.
Sorry Yeti, that wasn't intended as a dig, I was interested to know why? How did you come to that conclusion, so you think the ETA COSC movement isn't very good? They get good reviews elsewhere, look great and seem to have a good following. Rolex push their product just a slickly, I'm just not sure why you don't think they are any good?

Edited by findtomdotcom on Wednesday 23 April 12:43