"Men who buy expensive watches are stupid"
Discussion
H22observer said:
Let's examine this. It's interesting.
Why would you be unhappy and insecure if you were earning an above average salary and looking forward to buying a house in a few years time? Is there something wrong with you?
Would you become unhappy & insecure if you suddenly had to give up a yuppie lifestyle and accept a job where your gross salary was less than £2500 per month?
How do think the majority of the population get by on sub-£30k ? Do think they're all insecure and really unhappy about where they are in life?
You'll accuse me of gloating again regardless of what I say but no matter. Why would you be unhappy and insecure if you were earning an above average salary and looking forward to buying a house in a few years time? Is there something wrong with you?
Would you become unhappy & insecure if you suddenly had to give up a yuppie lifestyle and accept a job where your gross salary was less than £2500 per month?
How do think the majority of the population get by on sub-£30k ? Do think they're all insecure and really unhappy about where they are in life?
I expect I would be unhappy on the salary levels you quoted because let's face it, they're not even London graduate level salaries and I wouldn't be able to own the house I do, take the holidays I wish, drive the car I want etc etc. I have aspirations and am enjoying the fruits of what I've achieved.
I never said anything that implied that anyone on less than £30k must be insecure, I was being specific about you because that's how you come across. Anyone who aspires to earn just above the average - average in this country is pretty disappointing, let's be honest - needs their head looking at. Maybe that's what you need?!
Having said all that, on reflection I suspect a lot of the people earning similar salaries to you are insecure or unhappy, otherwise Labour or UKIP wouldn't have any votes!
Mosdef said:
I have a couple of friends who have inherited their private plates - I guess they're stupid.
I hadn't considered inheritance, tbh. My wife inherited quite an expensive clock (not ridiculous money, probably about £5K) which we've kept as it meant a lot to her mother, and it's quite nice. So I guess inheriting an expensive watch would be much the same, so yes, I take back my "stupid" comment. I was thinking more about buying than inheriting.That said, if I inherited a mega expensive number plate, I would sell it immediately. Because I wouldn't want to pay to keep it on retention and I would never put it on a car of mine, because I think they are all, without exception, chavvy.
But what others do is up to them.
H22observer said:
Mosdef said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I don't have a chip on my shoulder and it doesn't bother me either, but I do think they're stupid.
I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Not everyone chooses to own watches and private plates as status symbols - although some do as everyone knows. I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Edited by Mosdef on Saturday 2nd August 18:35
Listen, mental health is a very serious issue and we might be able to have a whip round to get you some help. Anyone with me?
Edited by Mosdef on Sunday 3rd August 09:38
H22observer said:
Not at all. I respect this gentleman's decision to spend his hard earned money on things that are NOT an overt display of wealth and so-called status.
There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
H22, did you really type that or is someone vaguely sensible on your computer?There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
Edited by Mosdef on Sunday 3rd August 09:47
H22observer said:
NRS said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Watch out, H22 is about to claim your boasting again!There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
I've never understood this. I have a friend who likes to spend s
t loads on expensive watches. And when he shows it me, I'm like - it's a watch.
And the only way you would know it was an expensive one is if the person who bought it told you the price and you were 'in' to watches so you could look closely at it to see if it wasn't a snide one from somewhere like Turkey.
Don't see the point. We are surrounded by things that tell us the time, wall clocks, microwaves (well to the nearest hour), car instrument displays, computers, mobile phones etc etc. Who exactly do these people and Formula 1 drivers think they are trying to impress?
t loads on expensive watches. And when he shows it me, I'm like - it's a watch. And the only way you would know it was an expensive one is if the person who bought it told you the price and you were 'in' to watches so you could look closely at it to see if it wasn't a snide one from somewhere like Turkey.
Don't see the point. We are surrounded by things that tell us the time, wall clocks, microwaves (well to the nearest hour), car instrument displays, computers, mobile phones etc etc. Who exactly do these people and Formula 1 drivers think they are trying to impress?
Cobnapint said:
I've never understood this. I have a friend who likes to spend st loads on expensive watches. And when he shows it me, I'm like - it's a watch.
And the only way you would know it was an expensive one is if the person who bought it told you the price and you were 'in' to watches so you could look closely at it to see if it wasn't a snide one from somewhere like Turkey.
Don't see the point. We are surrounded by things that tell us the time, wall clocks, microwaves (well to the nearest hour), car instrument displays, computers, mobile phones etc etc. Who exactly do these people and Formula 1 drivers think they are trying to impress?
That's the thing, some of us aren't trying to impress anyone - we like it for ourselves.t loads on expensive watches. And when he shows it me, I'm like - it's a watch. And the only way you would know it was an expensive one is if the person who bought it told you the price and you were 'in' to watches so you could look closely at it to see if it wasn't a snide one from somewhere like Turkey.
Don't see the point. We are surrounded by things that tell us the time, wall clocks, microwaves (well to the nearest hour), car instrument displays, computers, mobile phones etc etc. Who exactly do these people and Formula 1 drivers think they are trying to impress?
badgers_back said:
Pommygranite said:
H22observer said:
Mosdef said:
Wow - you must be quite excited about what lies ahead. If you're hoping to earn £31k in 5 years time and £36k 10 years from now, you're going to be having a ball!! Not sure you'll be cash rich either, unless viewed through the eyes of a Big Issue seller.
Wow. Do you realise how pathetic you sound with your shameless gloating? That's an above average salary, you know?You must be a desparately unhappy and insecure man if spouting this type of bile makes you feel smug or superior to the majority of the UK population.
Horrid little man.
Simply put its not gloating its playing on the fact that you opened these floodgates with ridiculously rude comments.
H22observer said:
Not at all. I respect this gentleman's decision to spend his hard earned money on things that are NOT an overt display of wealth and so-called status.
There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
But you don't respect other peoples' decisions to spend their hard-earned money on things that you consider to be overt displays of wealth and status? Can't you understand that some people just like watches for reasons which perhaps you can't grasp?There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
As posted earlier, what's your perception of this watch?
Brand new RRP is probably somewhere between £3-5k. Is it in any way an overt display of wealth and status? No, to 99% of the population, it's a Seiko that's probably worth a couple of hundred quid. What it actually is is one of the most beautifully engineered and finished watches you can buy (without spending crazy amounts) and for that reason I'd love one. For me, because I like it and I appreciate what it is. What you, or anyone else, thinks about it is irrelevant to me. I'm not buying it to wave my willy in your face and pronounce to the world how successful I am.
If you can't get your head around that, I'd suggest you're the one with the problem, not the people buying expensive watches. You'd do well to show a bit of dignity and humility yourself.
paul383 said:
H22observer said:
How do think the majority of the population get by on sub-£30k ? Do think they're all insecure and really unhappy about where they are in life?
No idea - but I don't fancy trying.'Well I am in the ninth decile with my wife and CadetCrash, but I am certainly not feeling rich.
Take home pay for me is £3K per month, which I know sounds a fortune to many many people, but out of that comes all the usual and full whack of mortgage on a modest London terraced house, insurances, counil tax, energy,mobile/phone, blah blah blah usual life stuff.
I am driving about in the nearly new car I bought in 2004, when it was nearly new, and whilst I would not say that we are struggling, it's only because we don't do anything... or at least anything beyond a piint or two round the pub once a month.
If we are lucky, we might scrape together an EasyJet flight to Spain in the Summer.'
Sounds like this guys is RREEAAALLLYYY happy!
Mosdef said:
H22observer said:
Let's examine this. It's interesting.
Why would you be unhappy and insecure if you were earning an above average salary and looking forward to buying a house in a few years time? Is there something wrong with you?
Would you become unhappy & insecure if you suddenly had to give up a yuppie lifestyle and accept a job where your gross salary was less than £2500 per month?
How do think the majority of the population get by on sub-£30k ? Do think they're all insecure and really unhappy about where they are in life?
I expect I would be unhappy on the salary levels you quoted because let's face it, they're not even London graduate level salaries and I wouldn't be able to own the house I do, take the holidays I wish, drive the car I want etc etc. I have aspirationsWhy would you be unhappy and insecure if you were earning an above average salary and looking forward to buying a house in a few years time? Is there something wrong with you?
Would you become unhappy & insecure if you suddenly had to give up a yuppie lifestyle and accept a job where your gross salary was less than £2500 per month?
How do think the majority of the population get by on sub-£30k ? Do think they're all insecure and really unhappy about where they are in life?
Whilst we're on this topic, let's talk about your aspirations.
In 5 years time, do you aspire to be more or less of a shallow, materialistic, stuck-up, obnoxious yuppie ********* than you currently are?
Will you still be judging people based purely on their income and social status or will you still be as narrow-minded as you currently are?
Pommygranite said:
H22observer said:
NRS said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Watch out, H22 is about to claim your boasting again!There's a certain amount of dignity & humility in somebody who may be quite wealthy, but chooses not to shout about it.
H22observer said:
What does "London" and "Graduate salaries" have to do with anything? London is an unpleasant place to live for a lot of people. I don't want to live in London, i don't work in London and i'm not a graduate.
Whilst we're on this topic, let's talk about your aspirations.
In 5 years time, do you aspire to be more or less of a shallow, materialistic, stuck-up, obnoxious yuppie ********* than you currently are?
Will you still be judging people based purely on their income and social status or will you still be as narrow-minded as you currently are?
Oh dear, you seem a bit upset. Whilst we're on this topic, let's talk about your aspirations.
In 5 years time, do you aspire to be more or less of a shallow, materialistic, stuck-up, obnoxious yuppie ********* than you currently are?
Will you still be judging people based purely on their income and social status or will you still be as narrow-minded as you currently are?
I don't judge people by income and social status. I judge people according to how they behave, what they say, their attitudes etc. My judgement here is that you have quite a sad little life dreaming of what could have been if only you'd tried harder at school. You could have had a life where you didn't need to worry about anything and could possibly have a few more options to do what you really want. Anyway, I've got a few things to enjoy today and I'm sure you've got some playstation (or was it Xbox) games you need to crack on with given how much of your time this debate must have taken up. I hope to see some more hilarious posts of yours later.
Personally I have no axe to grind with anyone who spends £1000s on a watch. It's just not for me, even though I could if I chose to. Just don't see the point.
And whilst H22 may be coming across as quite strident in his opposition to spending mega money on watches, I suspect that if many of you stumbled across a thread written mainly by women about spending tens of thousands on handbags, you'd be saying much the same thing as he is.
Btw, I know a woman who spent £55K on a handbag.
And whilst H22 may be coming across as quite strident in his opposition to spending mega money on watches, I suspect that if many of you stumbled across a thread written mainly by women about spending tens of thousands on handbags, you'd be saying much the same thing as he is.
Btw, I know a woman who spent £55K on a handbag.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Personally I have no axe to grind with anyone who spends £1000s on a watch. It's just not for me, even though I could if I chose to. Just don't see the point.
And whilst H22 may be coming across as quite strident in his opposition to spending mega money on watches, I suspect that if many of you stumbled across a thread written mainly by women about spending tens of thousands on handbags, you'd be saying much the same thing as he is.
Btw, I know a woman who spent £55K on a handbag.
Not really - if they can afford it then let them pick what they want. It's their money, and their priorities. I don't understand it, but I don't think it's showing off too much, as most people again would not have a clue about the price (beyond being expensive if it is a known brand).And whilst H22 may be coming across as quite strident in his opposition to spending mega money on watches, I suspect that if many of you stumbled across a thread written mainly by women about spending tens of thousands on handbags, you'd be saying much the same thing as he is.
Btw, I know a woman who spent £55K on a handbag.
Mosdef said:
H22observer said:
Mosdef said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I don't have a chip on my shoulder and it doesn't bother me either, but I do think they're stupid.
I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Not everyone chooses to own watches and private plates as status symbols - although some do as everyone knows. I'm fortunate in so much that I can afford an expensive watch and a private plate, but I have no desire for either.
Edited by Mosdef on Saturday 2nd August 18:35
Edited by Mosdef on Sunday 3rd August 09:38
You're like a walking cliche.
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