"Men who buy expensive watches are stupid"
Discussion
Pommygranite said:
Friends? Plural?
In all fairness, MG is a complete bell end who has turned me off this forum as instead of being about watches it is about sad little humblebrags. I don't have a thing against people who spend whatever they chose to spend on watches. Particularly watches that mean something to them (e.g. birthyear) or that have unique characteristics - hell, a Dornbluth is on my list.
But, those that use them to make up for odious personalities and are more focussed on the cost than the watch are frankly pretty tedious and obnoxious.
It would be the same if it was cars, or wine, or clothing, or art, or furniture.
Edited by Colonial on Friday 8th August 01:24
swerni said:
Wacky Racer said:
Nice Audi A4?
Not a very impressive yuppie
Ah, great![
quote=NeMiSiS]I meet people all the time, some comment on my watch, usually starting with " Is that big enough? "
All or most of my watches are divers watches at 40mm and over, so the size of the watch gains attention first rather than its brand so this is often the opening gambit.
Next in usual order:-
How much was that?
I would want a gold one for that price.
Does it make the tea [snortle].
Never heard of it....is it like a Rolex.
I wouldn't pay that for a watch. [ or should they say I couldn't pay that for a watch.]
f
kin hell that's heavy.
Do you often dive to 4000ft?[smirk]
What does it do that a £10 digital watch won't do?[smug]
I would be scared of wearing it.
A family member is a watch hater anything above £50 is a waste of money, an unnecessary item of jewellery, won’t listen to any argument for the high price tag other than it being a fashion brand and that I have been taken in by advertising, I follow sheep, I'm a mug for falling for the hype.
The same bloke asked me if he could borrow a Rolex for his wedding day....what a bell whiff.
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quote=NeMiSiS]I meet people all the time, some comment on my watch, usually starting with " Is that big enough? "
All or most of my watches are divers watches at 40mm and over, so the size of the watch gains attention first rather than its brand so this is often the opening gambit.
Next in usual order:-
How much was that?
I would want a gold one for that price.
Does it make the tea [snortle].
Never heard of it....is it like a Rolex.
I wouldn't pay that for a watch. [ or should they say I couldn't pay that for a watch.]
f
kin hell that's heavy.Do you often dive to 4000ft?[smirk]
What does it do that a £10 digital watch won't do?[smug]
I would be scared of wearing it.
A family member is a watch hater anything above £50 is a waste of money, an unnecessary item of jewellery, won’t listen to any argument for the high price tag other than it being a fashion brand and that I have been taken in by advertising, I follow sheep, I'm a mug for falling for the hype.
The same bloke asked me if he could borrow a Rolex for his wedding day....what a bell whiff.
[/quote]
I think people are getting the wrong idea about the watch forum.
We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a st what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.
Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a s
t what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
Mr Aston Martin said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24211691
A true high end watch worth every single penny.
Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
I was lucky enough to wear a George Daniels for an hour or so a few years back. They are the most incredible things....A true high end watch worth every single penny.
Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
NDA said:
Mr Aston Martin said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24211691
A true high end watch worth every single penny. Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
I was lucky enough to wear a George Daniels for an hour or so a few years back. They are the most incredible things....A true high end watch worth every single penny. Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
Edited by RichB on Friday 8th August 09:43
H22observer said:
Binned? Good god, no.
Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie wkstain".
Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Nah you didn't. And yes, your uncle rode the boom, well bloody done, how impressive. Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie w
kstain".Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Why are you even posting in this thread? You've made your views clear, nobody gave cared, yet you're still here pushing your odd agenda. You're on a car forum, and watch forum within that, what exactly are you expecting, people are posting pics of watches.
Edited by okgo on Friday 8th August 09:40
mikeveal said:
I think people are getting the wrong idea about the watch forum.
We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a st what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.
Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
I would like to read more posts from people like you. We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a s
t what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
A year ago it was like that. Now it's changed to a very richer than you style which is pretty sad.
Why this discussion?
People spend a lot of money on many things. Cars, watches, fashion, travel, houses, education. Everyone for his or her own reason and motivation.
If I spend 5000 EUR on a Submariner, I will probably be able to enjoy it for life.
If I spend 5000 EUR on a painting, same.
If I spend 5000 EUR on an executive education seminar at a good business school, or on a pre-owned Hermes Kelly bag for my girlfriend, or on a bespoke suit, a top-of-the-range titanium mountain bike, a Meissen or Herend set, a nameless old master painting, a business class flight to New York or on a slightly tatty MX-5...
...SO BE IT.
People spend a lot of money on many things. Cars, watches, fashion, travel, houses, education. Everyone for his or her own reason and motivation.
If I spend 5000 EUR on a Submariner, I will probably be able to enjoy it for life.
If I spend 5000 EUR on a painting, same.
If I spend 5000 EUR on an executive education seminar at a good business school, or on a pre-owned Hermes Kelly bag for my girlfriend, or on a bespoke suit, a top-of-the-range titanium mountain bike, a Meissen or Herend set, a nameless old master painting, a business class flight to New York or on a slightly tatty MX-5...
...SO BE IT.
mikeveal said:
I think people are getting the wrong idea about the watch forum.
We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a st what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.
Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
Well said.We have a wide spectrum of posters here, from those who are looking for a one off sub £100 purchase (often £10 watches are discussed) to those who are spending upwards of £20K per watch on multiple watches.
All of us share a passion for horology.
Some of us buy watches because we love 'em and we don't give a s
t what other people think. Some of us buy watches purely to impress others, although those posters would never admit it. Those posters are easy to spot and guess what, they don't stay here long because that's not what the forum is about.Me? As an example of a typical poster here, I have 17 or 18 in my collection currently. Mostly I collect mechanical vintage watches. I've always loved clockwork things, I love the detail and art that goes into a movement that is never seen. As people are focusing on value most of them are worth a few hundreds. I have a couple that would retail in the low thousands. My cheapest watch is a hand built HMT at £35, delivered from India. Today I'm wearing a modern £50 Chinese Parnis, it actually gets more wrist time than many of my more expensive watches.
A lot of the older watches in my collection are tiny by modern standards. If anyone actually comments on one of these it's usually to ask "Why are you wearing a womans watch?". If I was wearing watches as a status symbol, I wouldn't be collecting vintage.
But guess what? Generally speaking people don't notice your watch. In my experience, of the minority that do notice/comment there are three groups:
1/ Those who are in on the secret and know that I collect.
2/ Other watch collectors.
3/ Those who measure other's personality by toting up the value of their car, watch, shoes and suit.
I don't care much for people in the third group. H22 & MG, you're both portraying yourselves as members of this group. (MG, I know this is only your sense of humour and you're doing it because it rubs people up the wrong way, but many just see that as tasteless.)
To imply that this forum is populated solely by MG, sycophants and Loadsamoney wannabes is fairly insulting.
This topic should probably be in the lounge to be fair. It isn't about specific watches. It's about an article that comments on a certain type of person, who buys watches BECAUSE they are expensive & exclusive.
What is a Range Rover capable of that other cars are not capable of? I fear that top-end Range Rovers could be bought by a similar type of person, to the above. They're certainly not the fastest or best handling car in the £50000-£90000 price bracket.
I'll understand if you bought it for the Prestige, heritage, image, looks, status or exclusivity. Many people do. It's better to be honest with yourself though.
Mr Aston Martin said:
H22observer said:
Or a Range Rover status symbol with 20" alloy wheels. 
Do you go off-road much?
To me it's a car, a very capable car but then we are on a petrol head site and posting on a watch forum. Do you go off-road much?
I'll understand if you bought it for the Prestige, heritage, image, looks, status or exclusivity. Many people do. It's better to be honest with yourself though.
H22observer said:
What is a Range Rover capable of that other cars are not capable of? <clip> I'll understand if you bought it for the Prestige, heritage, image, looks, status or exclusivity. Many people do. It's better to be honest with yourself though.
It's acknowledged as one of the best for serious off road purposes but I agree, only 0.1% of them are ever used for that purpose. 
okgo said:
H22observer said:
Binned? Good god, no.
Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie wkstain".
Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Nah you didn't. And yes, your uncle rode the boom, well bloody done, how impressive. Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie w
kstain".Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Edited by okgo on Friday 8th August 09:40
You could do the same thing if you wanted to. What's stopping you from building a house from the ground up? Where is your ambition?
You obviously lack the skills to do so. Maybe you could retrain and learn how to actually build things? Possibly buy less consumer stuff and make some sacrifices?
I must say, it's rare to see a yuppie who is jealous of a working class old man. I guess envy can also affect middle-class people, who aren't financially doing quite as well as they'd hoped.
H22, I'm curious:
1). Let's assume you're correct as you obviously think you are. What do you want to happen? Should the watch forum be closed down? Should people stop posting pictures? What would be a 'win' for you here?
2). At what point will you consider this thread 'done'? Just if people stop replying or would you keep going? Or would you move to another thread in the same forum?
As I say, genuine questions to try and ascertain what the plan is as this is seemingly going on and on.
1). Let's assume you're correct as you obviously think you are. What do you want to happen? Should the watch forum be closed down? Should people stop posting pictures? What would be a 'win' for you here?
2). At what point will you consider this thread 'done'? Just if people stop replying or would you keep going? Or would you move to another thread in the same forum?
As I say, genuine questions to try and ascertain what the plan is as this is seemingly going on and on.
H22observer said:
okgo said:
H22observer said:
Binned? Good god, no.
Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie wkstain".
Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Nah you didn't. And yes, your uncle rode the boom, well bloody done, how impressive. Was that the thread where somebody insulted my 78 year old uncle who had built a 5-bed house from scratch and had been living in it for 15 years during the property boom?
If it was, I think i responded proportionately by calling him a "Yuppie w
kstain".Are you here to discuss the Telegraph article or to discuss a locked thread?
Edited by okgo on Friday 8th August 09:40
You could do the same thing if you wanted to. What's stopping you from building a house from the ground up? Where is your ambition?
You obviously lack the skills to do so. Maybe you could retrain and learn how to actually build things? Possibly buy less consumer stuff and make some sacrifices?
I must say, it's rare to see a yuppie who is jealous of a working class old man. I guess envy can also affect middle-class people, who aren't financially doing quite as well as they'd hoped.
If you took a moment to step down from the moral high ground you might see that 'achievers', or people who have achieved wealth, are much like any other cross-section of society. Some are lovely, selfless, hard working, salt-of-the-earth types, others are synthetic, superficial, keeping-up-with-joneses types, and every other shade between those two poles.
Your blanket generalisations about how much people earn, or what watch they choose to own, or car they drive just makes you appear as if you have the most enormous chip on your shoulder,
RichB said:
NDA said:
Mr Aston Martin said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24211691
A true high end watch worth every single penny. Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
I was lucky enough to wear a George Daniels for an hour or so a few years back. They are the most incredible things....A true high end watch worth every single penny. Prices starting at £95k for the economy version.
Daniels (who died in 2011) made every component of his watches personally. Unlike other makers who import cases (for example) or who have other workers making particular parts.
Disastrous said:
H22, I'm curious:
1). Let's assume you're correct as you obviously think you are. What do you want to happen? Should the watch forum be closed down? Should people stop posting pictures? What would be a 'win' for you here?
2). At what point will you consider this thread 'done'? Just if people stop replying or would you keep going? Or would you move to another thread in the same forum?
As I say, genuine questions to try and ascertain what the plan is as this is seemingly going on and on.
There is no 'plan'1). Let's assume you're correct as you obviously think you are. What do you want to happen? Should the watch forum be closed down? Should people stop posting pictures? What would be a 'win' for you here?
2). At what point will you consider this thread 'done'? Just if people stop replying or would you keep going? Or would you move to another thread in the same forum?
As I say, genuine questions to try and ascertain what the plan is as this is seemingly going on and on.
Suggesting that the watch forum should be closed down is ridiculous. What would that achieve?
I'm only responding to posts from people who hold a grudge (from other threads) and people who feel the need to insult me. Once the insults stop, this thread will fade into the background.
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