"Men who buy expensive watches are stupid"

[H22observer]

el stovey said:

H22observer said:

It looks like the writing of a very normal person that isn't obsessed with acquiring status symbols to me.

If you have the world view of someone who wants an obviously expensive watch to impress others but they are unimpressed or worse, think you're a bit of a dick, you can only really rationalise it by imagining they're jealous of you.

I know it's a hard concept for some people to accept but not everyone thinks buying expensive stuff to impress others makes them "a success in life".

[TKF]

AlexC1981 said:

Fotic said:

Exactly the same as a 20k watch.

The principle is the same and cost is relative.

No, the cost isn't relative. And the principle isn't the same either

The article in the OP is discussing watches costing six figures (GBP). That's the price of a house (a st one) and many times the average claims admin's salary.

Cotty's absurd custom Vape costs the same as twenty packs of fags. (Guessing at that cost as I don't smoke, fake or properly)

[Cotty]

TKF said:

Cotty's absurd custom Vape costs the same as twenty packs of fags. (Guessing at that cost as I don't smoke, fake or properly)

So now add some diamonds and precious metals, make sence now?

[TKF]

Cotty said:

TKF said:

Cotty's absurd custom Vape costs the same as twenty packs of fags. (Guessing at that cost as I don't smoke, fake or properly)

So now add some diamonds and precious metals, make sence now?

No it still doesn't make sence.

I could add some diamonds and precious metal to my KFC and it would have nothing to do with expensive watches and it would ruin the food.

[Fotic]

Cotty said:

TKF said:

Cotty's absurd custom Vape costs the same as twenty packs of fags. (Guessing at that cost as I don't smoke, fake or properly)

So now add some diamonds and precious metals, make sence now?

I've just made something, after my morning coffee, that you could adorn with diamonds taking it to the value of GBP200k.

Make sence?

Edited by Fotic on Tuesday 22 July 11:38

[Cotty]

TKF said:

No it still doesn't make sence.

I could add some diamonds and precious metal to my KFC and it would have nothing to do with expensive watches and it would ruin the food.

Wow do you not understand the concept of an analogy or are you just being obtuse?

[Fotic]

Cotty said:

Wow do you not understand the concept of an analogy or are you just being obtuse?

Would it help if we all described low value items that we currently own but make a point of saying 'Imagine it made of precious metals and diamonds!'.


Imagine that, encrusted and gilted. Eh?

[TKF]

Fotic said:

Would it help if we all described low value items that we currently own but make a point of saying 'Imagine it made of precious metals and diamonds!'.


Imagine that, encrusted and gilted. Eh?

Like a wealthy man would start with that!! Sneeboer is my go to brand for gardebling.

[Duke Thrust]

TKF said:

Fotic said:

Would it help if we all described low value items that we currently own but make a point of saying 'Imagine it made of precious metals and diamonds!'.


Imagine that, encrusted and gilted. Eh?

Like a wealthy man would start with that!! Sneeboer is my go to brand for gardebling.

NO! You're not using your imagination!!

[Cotty]

Fotic said:

Would it help if we all described low value items that we currently own but make a point of saying 'Imagine it made of precious metals and diamonds!'.


Imagine that, encrusted and gilted. Eh?

Good anlaogy, now you understand, great.

[H22observer]

Colonial said:

Of course they are.

By which I mean I can't afford one.

When I can different story.

I see your point, but the same doesn't apply to houses though. Have you ever heard anyone say this :

"I hate you because you own a house. That's a waste of money. Houses are horrible and people that own them are show-offs."

Owning a nice house and fairly nice car are aspirational.

Owning an expensive watch, Mr T gold chain, lot of jewellery, £500 cufflinks etc. (insert status symbol here...) are something very different indeed.

[Speedracer329]

Fotic said:

Cotty said:

Fotic said:

What's any of that got to do with your £100 fake cigarette?

If you don't understand I don't have the time to explain it to you. Good day.

Ok, bye! Thanks for showing us your fake cigarette.

I get what you are alluding to cotty, & I think Fotic does too, he is just being antagonistic, obviously vaping is something that upsets him for some reason.
For crying out loud do we have to have friction is this part of the forum?

People are always customising cheap everyday items to bling them up & make them more personal, in much the same way that someone will by a diamond encrusted Rolex to show off they are richer than someone with a basic Rolex. Taste has nothing to do with it.

[RichB]

H22observer said:

Owning a nice house and fairly nice car are aspirational.
Owning an expensive watch <etc.> something very different indeed.

Nope I don't get that.

[yeti]

RichB said:

H22observer said:

Owning a nice house and fairly nice car are aspirational.
Owning an expensive watch <etc.> something very different indeed.

Nope I don't get that.

Me neither. H22, you seem unable to grasp that some people might have a different outlook to you.

The journalist also seems to be unable to grasp that fact; that some people collect or buy watches because they are beautiful pieces of fascinating engineering which actually hold their money nicely and give pleasure. His sterotype was that 'all men who buy expensive watches are stupid'. He is wrong.

[yeti]

Cotty said:

I can see how people into watches would go that extra step for something special, unique or rare.

I see your point, it's fine!

[H22observer]

yeti said:

RichB said:

H22observer said:

Owning a nice house and fairly nice car are aspirational.
Owning an expensive watch <etc.> something very different indeed.

Nope I don't get that.

Me neither. H22, you seem unable to grasp that some people might have a different outlook to you.

I get that people have different outlooks. Just in case you missed my previous post, i'll repeat it for you :

H22observer said:

It doesn't look like he's saying that successful people are stupid at all. It looks like he's saying that successful people who buy £10000 watches are stupid.

You could certainly accuse people of being philistines for not liking "Art", that's probably a fair criticism actually, but accusing them of envy is haughty.

My point is that the desire to own an expensive watch is not a natural aspiration in the same way that wanting to own a house is.

Owning a house is necessary for security. Both personal and financial.

Edited by H22observer on Tuesday 22 July 14:56

[downstairs]

Cotty said:

Fotic said:

Would it help if we all described low value items that we currently own but make a point of saying 'Imagine it made of precious metals and diamonds!'.


Imagine that, encrusted and gilted. Eh?

Good anlaogy, now you understand, great.

I thought I understood but now if this anlaogy is accurate then it isn't what I thought I understood it to be. If I put diamonds on my trowel or my towel then it won't make it a better piece of engineering, and it won't make my trowel impress the other gardeners down at Euromillions Allotments. It will be a display of how crass and ridiculous I can be. It would even make my towel less effective at softly drying my wealthy posteriority.

Have I got it right?

I like your custome e-ciggy though, it looks like a stink bomb from when I was small.

[mikeveal]

Pointless article pointless points out that jewellery and art prices may be viewed as obscene if compared with the cost of a loaf.

Wish I could get paid for re-titivating stale drivel like that.

[RichB]

H22observer said:

My point is that the desire to own an expensive watch is not a natural aspiration in the same way that wanting to own a house is. Owning a house is necessary for security. Both personal and financial.

And the point that I responded to was that you said "nice house and "nice car". I fail to see why having aspirations to own a nice house and nice car is any different to having aspirations to own a nice watch. Ipso facto, they are all aspirational.

[audidoody]

H22observer said:

It looks like the writing of a very normal person that isn't obsessed with acquiring status symbols to me.

Alex Proud is a bloke who sells photographic prints of film stars (NB not the negative) for £1,900 and thinks it's stupid to spend a lot on a watch.

:BANGSHEAD:

https://www.proudonline.co.uk/c/26/film