How is this even legal?

How is this even legal?

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RS404

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319 posts

201 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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scratchchin Why would it be anything other than legal... it's not being sold as anything other than an Invicta or have I missed something?

yeti

10,523 posts

274 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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The Surveyor said:
scratchchin Why would it be anything other than legal... it's not being sold as anything other than an Invicta or have I missed something?
^^ This

Yes it looks very similar to a bi-metal Sub at first glance, but probably doesn't share a single dimension in common and certainly doesn't say anything it shouldn't on the dial.

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Dempsey1971

383 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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You're right!!!

It's so tacky it should be made illegal immediatley.

Dan_1981

17,353 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Are Invicta just another tat name or are they OK if you like 'homages'?

TimLambert7

642 posts

124 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I might buy the bi-metal Invicta just to see people give it a second glance. Hopefully it'll get pinched then I can feel smug.

Dempsey1971

383 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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The invicta probably also has a nicer bracelet

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Is that a copy of something? I've got one of them for when I'm afraid of losing the Seamaster but hadn't realised it was an homage...I may be on the verge of hating it!

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Save yourself some cash and get the sekonda version

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sekonda-Mens-Bracelet-Spor...

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Disastrous said:
Du1point8 said:
Is that a copy of something? I've got one of them for when I'm afraid of losing the Seamaster but hadn't realised it was an homage...I may be on the verge of hating it!
Not sure if you want a serious answer, but you can have it.

Rolex pepsi



seiko homage




close enough

Edited by Du1point8 on Tuesday 29th July 14:33

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Hmm, I don't see it (beyond the obvious bezel colours but hat's on so many divers...)

One is GMT, casing different, indices different, hands different, bracelet etc.

The second Seiko looks a bit more like it but you've put my mind at rest if nothing else...

sneijder

5,221 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Du1point8 said:
I think you might be clutching at straws there. Seiko are just about the most complete watch maker ever, you're comparing an aviation watch with a divers watch, with an innovative movement, totally different case, quickset date etc.

The divers watch is generally considered to be a tool watch, it has what it needs and in that it the function dictates the design.

Blancpain might have a better claim to originality, I'm not sure what of the current submariners design is copyrighted.IIRC Rolex get a bit hissy about crown guard similarities.

Edited by sneijder on Tuesday 29th July 18:06

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I don't care at all if there are copies.

They are not diverting people who would otherwise be buying the real thing.

I buy a genuine watch for myself and only for myself. Like fake Ferraris,fake Louis Vuitton goods, they seem to me to be irrelevant to the real buyer. If you go to Cuba everybody's brother will offer you Cohibas, but the real thing is only in the state stores.

It was always thus. If I saw someone wearing a copy of my watch, no issue for me if I even noticed it was a fake. You have to look closely at good ones and I am certainly not going to grab a stranger's wrist for a closer look.

SVS

3,824 posts

270 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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sneijder said:
The divers watch is generally considered to be a tool watch, it has what it needs and in that it the function dictates the design.

Blancpain might have a better claim to originality
Quite so. Blancpain first came out with what's now considered the classic diver style. Rolex was second. It's often been suggested that Rolex took many of its design cues from Blancpain. Although the Rolex Submariner isn't an identical copy of the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, there are clearly design elements that Blancpain used first. This rather weakens the argument against Rolex homages, because Rolex's design might have taken cues from Blancpain.

Alternatively, perhaps function simply dictates dive watch design.