Christopher Ward
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FWIW the Malvern on a bracelet is nice in a subtle way. I like it, anyway.
SVS said:
Exactly 
Also, Rolex could be accused of making watches that look a little like Blancpain's Fifty Fathoms. Rolex was second to market, following Blancpain, with this style of dive watch. There are only so many ways to design a dive watch with a rotating bezel; some of them are going to look similar.
Yep! Bloody hackers. Or something. Also, Rolex could be accused of making watches that look a little like Blancpain's Fifty Fathoms. Rolex was second to market, following Blancpain, with this style of dive watch. There are only so many ways to design a dive watch with a rotating bezel; some of them are going to look similar.
Why do people jump on he rolex band wagon.
It's not only rolex they look like.
They done a SMP look a like and a tag carrera look a like.
So any one saying they don't do blatant copies is daft.
If it's for show only buy a nice fake of a 20k watch and test people who visit more of a laugh than having a CW on show.
It's not only rolex they look like.
They done a SMP look a like and a tag carrera look a like.
So any one saying they don't do blatant copies is daft.
If it's for show only buy a nice fake of a 20k watch and test people who visit more of a laugh than having a CW on show.
I own several CWs as well as a number of other bigger brands, and I can safely vouch for their quality, workmanship and value for money. I am getting a tad bored of giving my opinion of them on here, as there are the usual watch brand snobs (usually Rolex owners sadly) who dismiss them as copies without any experience of ownership nor consideration of quality versus money. Nowadays pretty much everything takes design cues from something else, it's all a matter of whether you wish to pay lots of money for a particular brand name.
The only way to tell if they are for you is to try one. Send it back with no quibbles if it doesn't work out. Simples
The only way to tell if they are for you is to try one. Send it back with no quibbles if it doesn't work out. Simples
mrdemon said:
Why do people jump on he rolex band wagon.
It's not only rolex they look like.
They done a SMP look a like and a tag carrera look a like.
So any one saying they don't do blatant copies is daft.
If it's for show only buy a nice fake of a 20k watch and test people who visit more of a laugh than having a CW on show.
Which ones are the blatant copies then? I'm clearly a bit daft... The SMP is a 'homage' in itself or at least 'derivative' of the Sub and the Carrera owes a lot to the Speedmaster! It's not only rolex they look like.
They done a SMP look a like and a tag carrera look a like.
So any one saying they don't do blatant copies is daft.
If it's for show only buy a nice fake of a 20k watch and test people who visit more of a laugh than having a CW on show.
Nothing's new under the sun...
M.
o/p - I suspect that you are thinking of this specific watch:
I've looked at that very closely, and the dial design is really, really good. It will enhance your Jaguar display without doubt.
I have a few CWs, and I like them a lot. Some of them are similar to other makers' designs, but that happens a lot within the watch world. Many of their designs are original, and they also produce their own in-house movement. It is true that they are not the complete bergain that they were ten years ago, but if you compare their current prices with other makes offering the same quality, they still come out as exceptional value.
Their 60/60 promise is the reason you should get this watch and have a look at it.
I've looked at that very closely, and the dial design is really, really good. It will enhance your Jaguar display without doubt.
I have a few CWs, and I like them a lot. Some of them are similar to other makers' designs, but that happens a lot within the watch world. Many of their designs are original, and they also produce their own in-house movement. It is true that they are not the complete bergain that they were ten years ago, but if you compare their current prices with other makes offering the same quality, they still come out as exceptional value.
Their 60/60 promise is the reason you should get this watch and have a look at it.
That's the beast!
But I can't buy it now...
I've just sent the solicitors a shed load of cash for our house, and I said to my self - if serial no. 011 is available, I'll buy one. If not, I won't bother.
It's already been reserved.
I'll have to keep my eye on the second hand market next year.
Thanks for taking the time to reply all, Stuart.
But I can't buy it now...
I've just sent the solicitors a shed load of cash for our house, and I said to my self - if serial no. 011 is available, I'll buy one. If not, I won't bother.
It's already been reserved.
I'll have to keep my eye on the second hand market next year.
Thanks for taking the time to reply all, Stuart.
Edited by TheLordJohn on Monday 22 September 07:02
"I own several CWs as well as a number of other bigger brands, and I can safely vouch for their quality, workmanship and value for money. I am getting a tad bored of giving my opinion of them on here, as there are the usual watch brand snobs (usually Rolex owners sadly) who dismiss them as copies without any experience of ownership nor consideration of quality versus money. Nowadays pretty much everything takes design cues from something else, it's all a matter of whether you wish to pay lots of money for a particular brand name.
The only way to tell if they are for you is to try one. Send it back with no quibbles if it doesn't work out. Simples "
Exactly this!I own a couple, great quality, sesible price, great company to deal with.
The only way to tell if they are for you is to try one. Send it back with no quibbles if it doesn't work out. Simples "
Exactly this!I own a couple, great quality, sesible price, great company to deal with.
CAPP0 said:
marcosgt said:
Which ones are the blatant copies then?
Yeah, I was wondering that too…..
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell us how that is completely different to the Omega, but be honest, what was the first thing you thought of when you saw the CW?
There a plenty of DETAIL differences and to be honest, aside from a handful of watches, you can say they're all a variation on a theme...
M
sad61t said:
Hi Stuart,
The C70 is a bit busy for my taste, but I can see that it would appeal to others. The VW4 is fascinating though I've no idea how to read the time
They're reasonably built for their price point just be prepared to wait a little for a sale, voucher or pre-owned one to come up on the site. It won't hold value in the same way a Swiss brand might but if you like the watch, buy it and enjoy looking at it.
Not so on the value front.The C70 is a bit busy for my taste, but I can see that it would appeal to others. The VW4 is fascinating though I've no idea how to read the time
They're reasonably built for their price point just be prepared to wait a little for a sale, voucher or pre-owned one to come up on the site. It won't hold value in the same way a Swiss brand might but if you like the watch, buy it and enjoy looking at it.
I had a C40 Speedhawk for a couple of years and lost a whole £50! It was well worn by then and really could have done with a new strap as the stitching was starting to come free of the strap.
Not a bad watch by any means and when I bought it, it was a little over £500 for a valjoux 7750 watch which is pretty amazing.
Would I buy something from them now? No. I still rate them but I think they need to start moving away from the online only sales and build an international following to justify their prices.
Anything over 1k and I'd be looking at Oris and Longines..
I'm a big CW fan. They're a small, passionate and ambitious company (in the real rather than marketing senses of the words) and you get the sense that they just can't stop themselves from playing around with new ideas even if it means pushing up the price bracket. Genuinely real enthusiasts. I can't think of another company, certainly in this price range, coming out with such interesting stuff. If they have a flaw it is in putting out too many designs (interestingly they have just announced that they are scrapping their women's range), but it's rubbish that they're into doing copies.
I've got two; one serial number under 250, the other (the original Malvern so I'm guessing their best seller) under 2500 - that in itself appeals to me. I would love a couple more, particularly the Single Pusher that tops the range at the moment. Be interesting what they do with their new in-house movement, it's clearly intended just as the starting place for various complications.
Most of the detractors are those who've spent ten times as much on a watch one per cent better (often identical internally) - cognitive dissonance pure and simple.
I've got two; one serial number under 250, the other (the original Malvern so I'm guessing their best seller) under 2500 - that in itself appeals to me. I would love a couple more, particularly the Single Pusher that tops the range at the moment. Be interesting what they do with their new in-house movement, it's clearly intended just as the starting place for various complications.
Most of the detractors are those who've spent ten times as much on a watch one per cent better (often identical internally) - cognitive dissonance pure and simple.
SVS said:
I wonder how many watches priced above £1k are sold by CW. I see CW even has watches priced at £2-3k now.
I doubt it's very many. I'd expect the Malvern and Trident ranges to be where the volume and money are with the Harrisons as headliners. But that is a fairly standard model. There's a lot of noise about their price increases, but their prices look to be inline with the rest of the market and unless you want it Right Now, there'll be a money off code or a sale along soon enough.
marcosgt said:
Which ones are the blatant copies then? I'm clearly a bit daft... The SMP is a 'homage' in itself or at least 'derivative' of the Sub and the Carrera owes a lot to the Speedmaster!
Nothing's new under the sun...
M.
SMP looks nothing like a sub !!!Nothing's new under the sun...
M.
And a Carrara looks nothing like a speedmaster.
The c7 look like a tag copy
And another CW uses the smp waves dial background.
Just makes them look like knock offs. Blatant design copies.
Shame as they look ok build wise just need a better designer to come up with some thing which makes a CW a CW.
But its put me off them for ever.
TKF said:
mrdemon said:
And a Carrara looks nothing like a speedmaster. .
Don't be silly
I'll agree on the wavy dial looking like a PO, but to pick one aspect that's very similar and ignore all the others makes the argument that the PO 'looks nothing' like a Submariner look shaky too.
CW make plenty of 'different' looking designs, I suspect, mrdemon, you made your mind up before coming up with your 'blatant copy' reason as you seem to apply it in a very uneven manner.
These two are both divers and similar colours:
BUT, the hands, case and markers are quite different (that PO doesn't even seem to HAVE the wavy dial!).
These two are also both divers and similar colours :
M
Edited by marcosgt on Monday 22 September 16:52
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