IWC and alternatives
Discussion
yeti said:
PJ S said:
Don't like fussy/busy, want something understated/under the radar – Grand Seiko is the answer, from a US dealer or Japan.
I'm assuming that the OP is neither a Japanese businessman interested in his own country's heritage or a highly educated watch expert with a penchant for knocking the Swiss. Therefore GS would hold absolutely no interest for him I have started looking at the SBGJ001 by the way. You finally broke me Phil...
The OP's locale is stated as Texas, which explains the use of $ instead of the expected £ sign – so it wasn't him pressing the wrong key, but more a reflection of where he resides and the currency he's working with.
If I'd truly broke you, you'd be looking at either the SBGA or SBGC, which are Spring Drive models, rather than 36K Hi-Beat.
But irrespective, stop that this instant......we can't have your purity tainted or corrupted!
andy tims said:
I prefer the earlier 3717 pilots chrono
but there are loads of alternatives so have a good look on Chrono24 to get some ideas
I think I agree with you. This doesn't help though as it is fundamentally the issue I'm having. I can't commit. Others have brought up good points regarding the movement I do feel like it's the equivalent of Aston Martin using a Ford engine. The watch I end up with should represent the brand's in house skill. I would prefer it to be an in house movement but can accept a modified ETA. but there are loads of alternatives so have a good look on Chrono24 to get some ideas
Quite honestly, it looks like the Seiko meets all my criteria the most and can justify their premium price. But, it's not the watch I anticipated when I started this search years ago. I always end up at this point and as a result I'm sat here wearing a G-Shock.
Having said all that the JLC looks appealing but my budget is in dollars and is capped at $5k. I don't think there is one out there for me.
h0b0 said:
... the equivalent of Aston Martin using a Ford engine....
OK, I might be missing some intentional irony here, but I thought Aston Martin used two Ford engines welded together to make their V12. This has the enormous advantage that new spark plugs are quite cheep and the chap under the arches can do a full service on one without cocking it up. DeTomaso are also renowned for using big, solid Ford V8's to power what would otherwise by quite delicate exotica.With IWC then definitely the one that only shows today's day, the (later) version that tells you what day it was yesterday and what it'll be tomorrow just makes no sense at all.
michael gould said:
whilst i agree with you Yeti....there is just something about me that thinks that we are all being conned by many watch makers such as IWC , Breitling , TAG and many more who are all still using swatch group movements .....they lack honesty
Car manufacturers are barely different in this respect. It just comes down to the proportion of components they're willing to buy from Ford (for example) ;-) I do agree that selling, say, £5k watches with cheap movements is a bit of a con but I don't see any difference between doing this and what Aston does with Ford and Jaguar engines.
Lorneg said:
OK, I might be missing some intentional irony here, but I thought Aston Martin used two Ford engines welded together to make their V12. This has the enormous advantage that new spark plugs are quite cheep and the chap under the arches can do a full service on one without cocking it up.
As an engineer Lorne, I realy hope you know more about engineering then that statement indicates It's a bit like slating the Freelander for using a Focus Mk1 platform. Car firms share, let's face it there is far more critical testing required than for a wristwatch. Your life depends on your car every time you drive it. It rarely does with your watch unless late for meeting your wife...
Lorneg said:
With IWC then definitely the one that only shows today's day, the (later) version that tells you what day it was yesterday and what it'll be tomorrow just makes no sense at all.
Supposedly so you can still know the date when the hand is at the 3 o'clock position. I dislike it too. Hi Yeti, and merry Xmas
Not slating the Aston, quite the opposite in fact. I'm all in favour of using trusted engineering, both in cars and watches. My favourite engines are big block Ford V8's and straight six's from BMW. It was a BMW straight six in the 1990'2 that made me wonder what the purpose of a V12 was. Never driven anything with such a smooth motor.
Not slating the Aston, quite the opposite in fact. I'm all in favour of using trusted engineering, both in cars and watches. My favourite engines are big block Ford V8's and straight six's from BMW. It was a BMW straight six in the 1990'2 that made me wonder what the purpose of a V12 was. Never driven anything with such a smooth motor.
h0b0 said:
sleep envy said:
2nd hand unworn JLC master compressor chronograph 2.
Me again. I have been checking in with Chrono24 but have not seen any at the price you suggested. Can you link for me?Take a look at Watchfinder, I found that a good place to start.
9 months?!?!?
I was considering this one JLC going cheap but with the worst photos I have ever seen in an add
Light wear but average condition and broken strap do not all tie together to me.
The plan was to buy it and send it off for refurb but if it takes 9 months I will have spent enough money on a watch to piss my wife off and have nothing to show for it.
I was considering this one JLC going cheap but with the worst photos I have ever seen in an add
Light wear but average condition and broken strap do not all tie together to me.
The plan was to buy it and send it off for refurb but if it takes 9 months I will have spent enough money on a watch to piss my wife off and have nothing to show for it.
Lorneg said:
The IWC has a really nice bracelet by the way.
OP, make sure you buy one with the bracelet already on it. Separately I think IWC charge a bit much for one.
note to anyone thinking I might have copied it, not really :-)
Yes love the IWC release mechanism which is partly what attracted me to the brand initially(actually it was a Porsche design Ocean 500 and I didn't even know about IWC at the time!) yours isn't really copying. IWC a is a single side release OP, make sure you buy one with the bracelet already on it. Separately I think IWC charge a bit much for one.
note to anyone thinking I might have copied it, not really :-)
h0b0 said:
9 months?!?!?
I was considering this one JLC going cheap but with the worst photos I have ever seen in an add
Light wear but average condition and broken strap do not all tie together to me.
The plan was to buy it and send it off for refurb but if it takes 9 months I will have spent enough money on a watch to piss my wife off and have nothing to show for it.
Jlc are useless in that case. I was considering this one JLC going cheap but with the worst photos I have ever seen in an add
Light wear but average condition and broken strap do not all tie together to me.
The plan was to buy it and send it off for refurb but if it takes 9 months I will have spent enough money on a watch to piss my wife off and have nothing to show for it.
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