Apple watch

[anonymous-user]

Blown2CV said:

Because, like a phone, it will be worth nothing in 2-3 years, when you're two updates out of date, it doesn't work with new software, and even when it worked it will face only lasted a few hours between charges. There is no substance, and no longevity. It's like a metaphor for modern society though so maybe it's perfect. I won't be buying one though.

So what? It's a smart watch not a Patek and costs s fraction of the price. Nobody is telling you to buy one. It doesn't make your reasons for buying your watch any more valid than whoever buys one of these. Each to their own.

[anonymous-user]

conkerman said:

But you can give your decent (not necessarily expensive) watch to your kids and fully expect them to give it to their. Not so with s smart watch.

Look In the watch thread, most brands have polarising opinion. Just because you liked a watch what makes you think your children will want to ever wear it? They might cherish it but they probably won't wear it.

[Blown2CV]

el stovey said:

Blown2CV said:

Because, like a phone, it will be worth nothing in 2-3 years, when you're two updates out of date, it doesn't work with new software, and even when it worked it will face only lasted a few hours between charges. There is no substance, and no longevity. It's like a metaphor for modern society though so maybe it's perfect. I won't be buying one though.

So what? It's a smart watch not a Patek and costs s fraction of the price. Nobody is telling you to buy one. It doesn't make your reasons for buying your watch any more valid than whoever buys one of these. Each to their own.

not as bad (although still quite bad) in the £300 apple watch bracket, but that picture i posted? Three models at £9-10k. I've heard they have a £15k model. It's the same watch, in a gold case. That's a long way to fall.

[leglessAlex]

Blown2CV said:

el stovey said:

Blown2CV said:

Because, like a phone, it will be worth nothing in 2-3 years, when you're two updates out of date, it doesn't work with new software, and even when it worked it will face only lasted a few hours between charges. There is no substance, and no longevity. It's like a metaphor for modern society though so maybe it's perfect. I won't be buying one though.

So what? It's a smart watch not a Patek and costs s fraction of the price. Nobody is telling you to buy one. It doesn't make your reasons for buying your watch any more valid than whoever buys one of these. Each to their own.

not as bad (although still quite bad) in the £300 apple watch bracket, but that picture i posted? Three models at £9-10k. I've heard they have a £15k model. It's the same watch, in a gold case. That's a long way to fall.

But unlike the other Apple watches they aren't selling it in Apple stores and they are pitching it as a fashion accessory as well as personal wrist worn device. There are many other things in the fashion world that are just as overpriced and go out of style in a season/year.

[Blown2CV]

You're missing my point. It won't just be unfashionable, it will be unusable. However, real watches in those higher brackets don't play in fashion. Sorry but to me the apple watch is just a silly gadget with no inherent value. In its current state of evolution it just doesn't do anything useful. Maybe it will in future developments, but right now the only worth to the buyer is to 'peacock' to their friends. At £300 that's childish. At ten grand, it's complete insanity.

[leglessAlex]

Blown2CV said:

You're missing my point. It won't just be unfashionable, it will be unusable. However, real watches in those higher brackets don't play in fashion. Sorry but to me the apple watch is just a silly gadget with no inherent value. In its current state of evolution it just doesn't do anything useful. Maybe it will in future developments, but right now the only worth to the buyer is to 'peacock' to their friends. At £300 that's childish. At ten grand, it's complete insanity.

I think you're missing my point. It doesn't matter if it's unusable after a year, it will be bought by the kind of people that will wear it as a gadget on the wrist for a season and probably no more. These are the sort of people whos coats and handbags will have cost thousands each and they will have many of them. £10k on a watch is nothing to these people, and these are the people Apple is trying to target. How successful it will be no one knows yet, but the market certainly exists.

You've made it very clear that you think it's a waste of money but then you probably aren't Apples target market.

[PGNCerbera]

Blaster72 said:

Yes it is, will be seen on the wrist of various z-list celebs.

Z list celebs can't afford 13.5k watches.

[silentbrown]

PGNCerbera said:

Z list celebs can't afford 13.5k watches.

PCP!

While I think that the idea of a £10K apple watch is totally barking, there are plenty of people who consider spending £10K on a mechanical watch that stops working if you don't wear it every day is equally mad. It's also rather like the Aston Martin Cygnet - Bog standard Apple watch innards in fancy case.

[Blown2CV]

I can see hardly anyone who has £10k to spend on a watch actually buying one of these. I'm yet to meet anyone who wants one of the 'normal' ones to be honest, and I work in IT surrounded by gadget gimps.

[Ikemi]

Blown2CV said:

I can see hardly anyone who has £10k to spend on a watch actually buying one of these. I'm yet to meet anyone who wants one of the 'normal' ones to be honest, and I work in IT surrounded by gadget gimps.

I don't know anyone who wants an Apple watch either! Also, if I had £10K, I'd save another £2K and get a pre-owned AP ROO Bumblebee. I've been lusting after the Bumblebee the last couple of days ...

[Leithen]

The "Edition" version that goes for many £K/$K is firmly aimed at China. There is an entirely different attitude towards displaying wealth culturally there.

I'm interested in the watch concept, mostly in the way it hooks up with the iPhone. I don't regard this as a disadvantage, if it works as advertised. In both my work and home environments, I have wifi networks that span different buildings/rooms. The networks are hard wired and allow wandering around with laptop/phone seamlessly.

The latest version of OSX has been a boon for me. I tend to leave my phone on my desk/kitchen and miss calls frequently. I just can't be arsed to carry the thing around with me all the time. Now, phone calls appear on my laptop too. I have an office in an old outbuilding at home and now don't care if I've left the phone in the house - any calls or messages appear on my desktop.

If the watch succeeds in giving discreet notifications of calls and messages in the same way, I'll be very tempted to buy one. I'm not really interested in making or receiving calls with the watch itself, much more being able to leave my phone in one place.

Part of this is to do with the unfortunate trend for larger phones. I would love an iPhone "Nano" that was easier to carry in the same way that non-smartphones were small and convenient not so long ago. I'd happily sacrifice the glitzy screen for something much smaller that had excellent battery life with reduced screen drain, a good camera, gps functionality and phone functions. I might actually carry one of those more frequently.

I wear a non-date Rolex Sub - would I change? I think it will be interesting how good the fitness metrics are and how it sits on the wrist.

Interesting times... (har, har... )

[Wadeski]

PGNCerbera said:

Blaster72 said:

Yes it is, will be seen on the wrist of various z-list celebs.

Z list celebs can't afford 13.5k watches.

Sadly, being a Z-list celeb pays very well. Regulars on reality TV shows like "real housewives" can pull $20k per episode...that's before endorsements, branded product lines etc.

I still find it funny that the first time my wifes automatic watch stopped after she didn't wear it for a couple of days she thought it was completely absurd. Its better....because its worse!

[Blown2CV]

Not sure why that's worse... just what do you think happens when you use the apple watch for a few hours? Or did you think it lasted as long as the battery in a quartz watch? It will die in a shorter time than any phone you've ever had (otherwise it would be the size of a phone), and it's yet another thing to charge up with yet another dedicated charger that you need to carry around. I'd personally rather have a watch that goes dead when i'm not using it than one which goes dead when i am.

[BigBen]

I got a Moto 360 smart watch late last year and really quite like it. In particular the ability to receive text messages without getting your 'phone from your pocket as well as the ability to decline calls are both really useful. Google maps / nav is handy to have on a wrist mount rather than having your 'phone rattling around in the car to boot.

Therefore I would think if you are an Apple user the watch will be worth getting. Shame it is square but that can't be helped

Ben

[bluenosewrx]

Murcielago_Boy said:

I have been raised to think of watches as essential men's accessories - his only piece of jewelry - as important in demonstrating a mans preference, character, style, and whatever else, as his suit, his clothes, his shoes, or even his bloody haircut...the functionality and usefulness of the Apple watch (or indeed any watch) doesn't even enter into the equation.. for me that's NOT what a watch is for...

Now, this is just MY opinion - I appreciate that many people just don't give a toss about a mans watch but based on MY opinion, I would not be seen DEAD wearing an Apple Watch..

May as well tie an Iphone around my neck instead of a tie.

I wouldnt be seen dead in a tie, i plan to buy one as i currently have a watch and a polar loop, i like the concept of the all in one thing really, i wont mind charging each night either.

[Emonda03]

I have ordered my apple watch & really looking forward to getting it. Don't understand all the negativity towards it at all. I have a considerable collection of high quality timepieces, and to be honest maybe once I have had one a while , I get a bit bored of looking at it, so maybe the apple watch will actually help me stop buying watches!, with it having various faces, and I dare say many more will be added along the way too, so will stem the one watch face boredom.
I also currently have enjoyed wearing a basis peak, I am very active so enjoy having my steps & Heart rate info to hand, and indeed sleep quality etc (not sure how good that is though to be honest )
So really for me the apple watch looks a fantastic idea, I expect it to perform better than the basis & the various watch faces look pretty cool, it will be totally accurate & very useful for things like reading txts on the go, changing music on my phone etc..I do a lot of walking so great to leave the phone in a pocket etc
Roll on 4 weeks or so when it arrives...
I am not a silly fashion chump buying a load of rubbish for the sake of it as the nay sayers seem to think, I fully expect the watch to be a most useful gadget indeed to me and my lifestyle and I think those that couldn't see such a thing as a useful device are just miserable anti anything types that the world seems full of nowadays

[leglessAlex]

Emonda03 said:

I have ordered my apple watch & really looking forward to getting it. Don't understand all the negativity towards it at all. I have a considerable collection of high quality timepieces, and to be honest maybe once I have had one a while , I get a bit bored of looking at it, so maybe the apple watch will actually help me stop buying watches!, with it having various faces, and I dare say many more will be added along the way too, so will stem the one watch face boredom.
I also currently have enjoyed wearing a basis peak, I am very active so enjoy having my steps & Heart rate info to hand, and indeed sleep quality etc (not sure how good that is though to be honest )
So really for me the apple watch looks a fantastic idea, I expect it to perform better than the basis & the various watch faces look pretty cool, it will be totally accurate & very useful for things like reading txts on the go, changing music on my phone etc..I do a lot of walking so great to leave the phone in a pocket etc
Roll on 4 weeks or so when it arrives...
I am not a silly fashion chump buying a load of rubbish for the sake of it as the nay sayers seem to think, I fully expect the watch to be a most useful gadget indeed to me and my lifestyle and I think those that couldn't see such a thing as a useful device are just miserable anti anything types that the world seems full of nowadays

Have you read the reviews?

I just ask because if you read between the lines it doesn't actually seem to be very good or at least quite limited in what it can actually do. I'm sure smart watches will eventually be very good but what's your thinking behind getting one now when the next generation will probably be a big step forward?

[Emonda03]

Yes I have read the reviews, and made the decision that it will be very useful to me, basis peak is far from perfect, but its usefulness is why I have worn it now for many weeks. Why wait?..software updates come along regularly , the device looks ok to me anyway, everything is software, so yes it may be a touch buggy to start with , so what, everything is nowadays...convinced its usefulness will far outweigh its shortcomings, and to be hones £350 isn't a lot of cash as far as I am concerned, its not like I am blowing a couple of grand along the way

[AC43]

Blown2CV said:

Because, like a phone, it will be worth nothing in 2-3 years, when you're two updates out of date, it doesn't work with new software, and even when it worked it will face only lasted a few hours between charges. There is no substance, and no longevity. It's like a metaphor for modern society though so maybe it's perfect. I won't be buying one though.

My iPhone battery is already half-f***d after 12 months. If it was from just about any other manufacturer I'd stick a new battery in it. But not Apple, oh no. That'll be a whole new iPhone, sir. And it's a company phone and they won't do it. Actually, thinking about it, I can opt out in June and get a Moto G for £99 and know that I'll be able to take business calls after 5.00pm.

Meanwhile my wife took out a contract on an iPhone with sod-all memory so it runs about two apps and can store about 20 photos (as long as you don't want any music on it). With just about any other manufacturer you could just stick a lager card in. But with Apple? No, madam, you'll have to wait till the end of the contract to get a new shiny one.

FFS how do they get away with this? It's beyond me.

[RobinBanks]

AC43 said:

My iPhone battery is already half-f***d after 12 months. If it was from just about any other manufacturer I'd stick a new battery in it. But not Apple, oh no. That'll be a whole new iPhone, sir. And it's a company phone and they won't do it. Actually, thinking about it, I can opt out in June and get a Moto G for £99 and know that I'll be able to take business calls after 5.00pm.

Meanwhile my wife took out a contract on an iPhone with sod-all memory so it runs about two apps and can store about 20 photos (as long as you don't want any music on it). With just about any other manufacturer you could just stick a lager card in. But with Apple? No, madam, you'll have to wait till the end of the contract to get a new shiny one.

FFS how do they get away with this? It's beyond me.

For these exact reasons my brother and I got rid of our iPhones at the same time. I have a Sony Xperia Z2 and he has a Moto G. And we have both preferred them from the first moment (and not just because of the money we saved).

A friend of a friend said "if you didn't spend so much money on watches and cars, you could afford an iPhone."
He couldn't understand that I'd rather have the cars and watches and I'd rather have the Sony even if it was more expensive than the iPhone.