Present for daughter (what to avoid)
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As she's 18, if you buy her something she'd love now, it will be very dated in a few years (I@m thinking rose gold effect michael kors etc, or other fashion watch). If you buy her something that won't look dated in a few years, she won't probably like the look of it that much. Bit of a catch 22.
The good thing about Michael Kors rose gold is that, in a few years, all the rose colour will have worn off so it'll be a brand-new stainless steel look 
And, no, having to send back for guarantee isn't good, but that is why they provide a guarantee in the first place. As long as they fix it and it stays fixed it's just one of those bad luck things!
And, no, having to send back for guarantee isn't good, but that is why they provide a guarantee in the first place. As long as they fix it and it stays fixed it's just one of those bad luck things!
Variomatic said:
The good thing about Michael Kors rose gold is that, in a few years, all the rose colour will have worn off so it'll be a brand-new stainless steel look
And, no, having to send back for guarantee isn't good, but that is why they provide a guarantee in the first place. As long as they fix it and it stays fixed it's just one of those bad luck things!
i was bought a watch for my 18th and whilst any such present is a very generous thing to do, i wouldn't wear it now unless i wanted to look like bobby george. Not a problem though as i think my ex secretly took it to cash converters. And, no, having to send back for guarantee isn't good, but that is why they provide a guarantee in the first place. As long as they fix it and it stays fixed it's just one of those bad luck things!
surely the mondaine will be no more or less likely to break again within 18 months! I can't imagine they will somehow improve it over how it left the factory. Rolexes come with a 2 year guarantee, that doesn't mean you'd expect them to break within 2 years.
Agreed about fashions - the MK comment was more a tongue in cheek comment about the quality of their plating and how nasty part-worn rose gold can look 
For the Mondaine, it should be far less likely to fail again in the future (which is what I meant by 2 as long as it stays fixed").
The movements they use in their normal (not Stop2Go) watches are decent quality Miyota ones which I regularly see still running at 10+ years old.
But, as with anything mechanical, you'll always get a few early failures. It's simply not possible to manufacture something in quantities of millions without some being below spec. The vast majority will be to spec, and most of the below spec ones will be caught by quality control. But the odd one will still sneak through. The guarantee is there to catch those odd few - even Rolex do get the occasional guarantee return!
Bear in mind that movement failure rate has to be judged against the total production numbers for the movement, not for the particular model of watch you bought, and Miyota make an awful lot of movements each year!!!
I know that's not much comfort when you happen to get the 1 in 100000, or whatever, that sneaks out of the factory but someone's going to get it and this time it was just your lucky day. The replacement they'll fit will be absolutely fine because practically no-ones lucky enough to win the lottery twice in a row!
For the Mondaine, it should be far less likely to fail again in the future (which is what I meant by 2 as long as it stays fixed").
The movements they use in their normal (not Stop2Go) watches are decent quality Miyota ones which I regularly see still running at 10+ years old.
But, as with anything mechanical, you'll always get a few early failures. It's simply not possible to manufacture something in quantities of millions without some being below spec. The vast majority will be to spec, and most of the below spec ones will be caught by quality control. But the odd one will still sneak through. The guarantee is there to catch those odd few - even Rolex do get the occasional guarantee return!
Bear in mind that movement failure rate has to be judged against the total production numbers for the movement, not for the particular model of watch you bought, and Miyota make an awful lot of movements each year!!!
I know that's not much comfort when you happen to get the 1 in 100000, or whatever, that sneaks out of the factory but someone's going to get it and this time it was just your lucky day. The replacement they'll fit will be absolutely fine because practically no-ones lucky enough to win the lottery twice in a row!
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