Which automatic winder
Discussion
Fitz666 said:
As above.
A winder will only mean it will need servicing more frequently.
No, it doesn't. it wouldn't be any different than wearing the watch every day.A winder will only mean it will need servicing more frequently.
In the case of the OP and the watch will only be worn weekends / special occasions means the service periods can be less frequent.
bobbybee said:
No, it doesn't. it wouldn't be any different than wearing the watch every day.
In the case of the OP and the watch will only be worn weekends / special occasions means the service periods can be less frequent.
If the OP has the watch on a winder, ready for just lifting off and wearing, then it will obviously be running constantly than if it's left to unwind between being worn, not to mention barrel wear from the spring slipping.In the case of the OP and the watch will only be worn weekends / special occasions means the service periods can be less frequent.
PJ S said:
If the OP has the watch on a winder, ready for just lifting off and wearing, then it will obviously be running constantly than if it's left to unwind between being worn, not to mention barrel wear from the spring slipping.
Obviously not, as watch winders do not run continuously, they can be set to mimic normal usage, being worn and wound on the wrist, then at rest winding down.If a winder ran continuously the motor would burn out in a very short space of time
bobbybee said:
Obviously not, as watch winders do not run continuously, they can be set to mimic normal usage, being worn and wound on the wrist, then at rest winding down.
If a winder ran continuously the motor would burn out in a very short space of time
Who's talking about the winder, or its motor? We're talking about the increased wear on the watch's movement due to the drive train and so fourth running 24/7, when the actual watch only needs to run for the day(s) it's being worn and the remainder of the power reserve when taken off again.If a winder ran continuously the motor would burn out in a very short space of time
Not all winders offer the off-wrist rest period, and you need to know how many TPD (turns per day) it requires to wind the watch fully, so as to not have the mainspring slipping in the barrel.
All in all, for a basic time/date watch, that's worn relatively infrequently, it's pointless to have it running all the time, when it takes barely 2 minutes to set the time and date, each time you go to wear it.
Perpetual calendars, annual calendars, and moonphase complications, are a different story, but most can be set within 5 minutes – so hardly an inordinate amount of time worth saving.
andybailey1972 said:
Confused by answers now! Do I need to get a watch winder or not? Is this barrel slipping caused by lack of use?
Sorry about the questions but am a newbie when it comes to decent watches.
The mainspring in the barrel, which is what powers the watch as it unwinds, slips when it's fully wound – since it can't be wound any tighter than it already is.Sorry about the questions but am a newbie when it comes to decent watches.
Over time, this causes wear and will need replacing – so to save on it begin worn prematurely, just let the watch unwind and then reset the time and date when you decide to wear it again.
PJ S said:
Who's talking about the winder, or its motor? We're talking about the increased wear on the watch's movement due to the drive train and so fourth running 24/7, when the actual watch only needs to run for the day(s) it's being worn and the remainder of the power reserve when taken off again.
Not all winders offer the off-wrist rest period, and you need to know how many TPD (turns per day) it requires to wind the watch fully, so as to not have the mainspring slipping in the barrel.
All in all, for a basic time/date watch, that's worn relatively infrequently, it's pointless to have it running all the time, when it takes barely 2 minutes to set the time and date, each time you go to wear it.
Perpetual calendars, annual calendars, and moonphase complications, are a different story, but most can be set within 5 minutes – so hardly an inordinate amount of time worth saving.
All the winders I've had offer off-wrist rest period.Not all winders offer the off-wrist rest period, and you need to know how many TPD (turns per day) it requires to wind the watch fully, so as to not have the mainspring slipping in the barrel.
All in all, for a basic time/date watch, that's worn relatively infrequently, it's pointless to have it running all the time, when it takes barely 2 minutes to set the time and date, each time you go to wear it.
Perpetual calendars, annual calendars, and moonphase complications, are a different story, but most can be set within 5 minutes – so hardly an inordinate amount of time worth saving.
I was talking about the motor, as you seem to think that winders run continuously, which is a nonsense, as they would wear out too quickly.
There is no increased wear on the movement, you've completely missed my point.
The point was, a watch worn 24/7, resting at night or worn periodically then on a winder (that rests - which most do) when not worn will have the same wear on the movement. Therefore not lead to a reduced service period.
By wearing a watch infrequently only means that you could potentially extend the service interval. Depending on the watch there is the chance of wear damage to the crown, especially if it is a screw in one, having to reset the time / date every time it was worn, although minimal, the potential is still there.
I've had a watch since 1996, on a winder when not in use, serviced twice in 19 years, with not a single part replaced due to excessive wear due to winder storage. Therefore I conclude IMHO the increased wear 'story' is rubbish
Right decision made I will see how I go without a winder and if at some stage in the future I get fed up of resetting the date and time when I go to wear the watch I will then buy a winder.
I didn't mean for this to end up in a discussion, let's please not let this get heated 😃
I didn't mean for this to end up in a discussion, let's please not let this get heated 😃
I have had an automatic watch for some years, but recently added a few more to the collection so finally decide to get a watch winder and was delivered yesterday:-
Very well made and silent in operation, particularly useful for my Super Ocean Heritage which does not have a fast date change.
Very well made and silent in operation, particularly useful for my Super Ocean Heritage which does not have a fast date change.
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