How much would I need to spend?

[Adrian W]

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

[brickwall]

A basic vintage Oysterdate can be had for £1250, I'd say at that price it's largely dep'n proof. Similarly a decent Heuer (as said above, not TAG) for £750, or even vintage Brietlings for a similar price.

[T40ORA]

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Acfully no, but that was a comment pertaining to the Verben test.

[toohangry]

T40ORA said:

Acfully no, but that was a comment pertaining to the Verben test.

Do you mean the Veblen effect?

[marcosgt]

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Exactly his point, though, surely...?

Any new watch is going to depreciate (well, maybe not ANY, but I certainly any commonly available watch, Rolex DEFINITELY included) in the short term.

To protect against depreciation, you need to find a good watch that's done its depreciating.

A Rolex Submariner or Daytona from the '70s or '80s (maybe '90s) is probably going to do that for you, if that's your only requirement, not least because they jack up the price every year!

M

[Adrian W]

marcosgt said:

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Exactly his point, though, surely...?


M

Maybe, except being a bit of a WIS I suppose if someone doesn't know what they are looking at, I don't care what they think, I wear watches because I like them, not to impress other people.

I think we've been here before on the various fake threads.

[T40ORA]

toohangry said:

T40ORA said:

Acfully no, but that was a comment pertaining to the Verben test.

Do you mean the Veblen effect?

Whoops. Excuse fat fingers and new phone..

[T40ORA]

Adrian W said:

marcosgt said:

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Exactly his point, though, surely...?


M

Maybe, except being a bit of a WIS I suppose if someone doesn't know what they are looking at, I don't care what they think, I wear watches because I like them, not to impress other people.

I think we've been here before on the various fake threads.

It's not to impress people. I want something that I like, but I need to justify the expenditure to myself (and my wife!).

The Seiko comment relates to the very first reply on this thread and was simply me showing that I understood.

This thread is just a request for advice fdom someone who knows very little about watches.

I'm not impressed with the snobbery that some people seem to be exhibiting on here, making assumptions, criticising how little cash I have to spend.

So to repeat. I would like a good, solid, robust, quality (not Veblen quality but real quality) mechanical/auto watch.

I have a small budget, and I'd prefer to know that if I spend a couple of months I'm still carrying it on my wrist should I need it.

There have been some very helpful suggestions on here, especially birth year vintages. I like that.

And I WILL look at Seiko.

Now I look at the models to see which I prefer, and maybe hunt one out.

[Adrian W]

The most solid residuals are going to be with a used Rolex, if your budget can run to it, and of course if you like them, otherwise you may want to consider used Omega Speedmaster or Seamaster, Have a look on Hackett watches site for ideas.

[mikeveal]

Adrian W said:

Maybe, except being a bit of a WIS I suppose if someone doesn't know what they are looking at, I don't care what they think, I wear watches because I like them, not to impress other people.

I think we've been here before on the various fake threads.

^^^ Wot e sed. ^^^

You'll need to define "a half decent watch" OP.
Personally I'd say that you could pick up a 40's of 50's Bulova for around a ton.
£125


£100


£195Will get you a rather nice Rado Diastar, but don't forget import duty.


A good Omega Dynamic can be had from around £350 if you're patient.
£495



£500ish should easily land you a 60's Seamaster:


All of these are decent watches that won't depreciate. Neither will Gruens, Wittnaeurs, old Hamiltons or old Jaegers. Second hand Cartiers don't drop below about a grand. The world is basically yer shellfish.

Oh, and Seiko make some very high quality watches.

Edited by mikeveal on Wednesday 3rd June 11:44

[Bash Brannigan]

T40ORA said:

Adrian W said:

marcosgt said:

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Exactly his point, though, surely...?


M

Maybe, except being a bit of a WIS I suppose if someone doesn't know what they are looking at, I don't care what they think, I wear watches because I like them, not to impress other people.

I think we've been here before on the various fake threads.

It's not to impress people. I want something that I like, but I need to justify the expenditure to myself (and my wife!).

The Seiko comment relates to the very first reply on this thread and was simply me showing that I understood.

This thread is just a request for advice fdom someone who knows very little about watches.

I'm not impressed with the snobbery that some people seem to be exhibiting on here, making assumptions, criticising how little cash I have to spend.

So to repeat. I would like a good, solid, robust, quality (not Veblen quality but real quality) mechanical/auto watch.

I have a small budget, and I'd prefer to know that if I spend a couple of months I'm still carrying it on my wrist should I need it.

There have been some very helpful suggestions on here, especially birth year vintages. I like that.

And I WILL look at Seiko.

Now I look at the models to see which I prefer, and maybe hunt one out.

I have a Speedmaster Legend that was bought new and has only ever been serviced at Omega and a 1970s Oysterquartz (unfashionable but I love it) that I inherited that has only ever been serviced a couple of times and done by independents.

My Speedmaster is constantly breaking and making time and unless serviced every 2 years at a cost of a couple of hundred pounds it's basically a paperweight; I wouldn't ever buy another one but as it was a 21st present from my late father I don't want to get rid of it. The Oysterquartz on the other hand is an amazingly accurate thing that hasn't given me any trouble at all - it just ticks very loudly. I work with a guy who has a PAM00321 and every second time I see him he is wearing his Rolex Explorer because the Panerai is being fixed. I only say this because you were after an every day solid watch, so thought it may be useful.

If you want to invest to maintain value then you probably either need to go the whole 'box and papers' route or go the other way and get something without the trimmings but which seems undervalued. I am looking for a birth year watch for myself and have found www.chrono24.com a great website to compare the values and prices of these things - Italy seems to be a cheap place to purchase watches at the moment.

If I was you and searching for a reliable bit of luxury to wear everyday I would be looking for a stainless Rolex perpetual of some sort - make sure you check the diameter as some of the best value watches produced (such as Air Kings) are a little smaller than modern watches so it's worth trying a few on. Also make sure that whatever you purchase has been serviced recently and if I was you I would look for an authorised dealer from which to buy. http://www.rolexforums.com/ is also probably a good resource.

People will always try and belittle budgets etc on here, internet forums breed some odd behaviour; £2000 on a discretionary purchase is not a small budget in the real world.

[Bash Brannigan]

marcosgt said:

Adrian W said:

T40ORA said:

Yeah, "Ooo you've got a Seiko!" isn't often heard!

So any Rolex? Am I looking at a budget of about £2k?

I take it you have never heard of Grand Seiko or Spring Drive?

Exactly his point, though, surely...?

Any new watch is going to depreciate (well, maybe not ANY, but I certainly any commonly available watch, Rolex DEFINITELY included) in the short term.

To protect against depreciation, you need to find a good watch that's done its depreciating.

A Rolex Submariner or Daytona from the '70s or '80s (maybe '90s) is probably going to do that for you, if that's your only requirement, not least because they jack up the price every year!

M

A £2,000 Daytona?

[Craikeybaby]

There's also a lot of choice new at £2k or less, Oris, Longines, Sinn, Damasko, Nomos etc, they don't have the famous names, but they are still good watches.

[michael gould]

well for not an awful lot more than your 2k budget i just purchased this in Platinum ........the equivalent today is about 14k

[T40ORA]

Some good advice and options. Thank you guys.

[toohangry]

michael gould said:

well for not an awful lot more than your 2k budget i just purchased this in Platinum ........the equivalent today is about 14k

The taste police called called, they have a warrant out on your embroidered cuffs.

[Adrian W]

michael gould said:

well for not an awful lot more than your 2k budget i just purchased this in Platinum ........the equivalent today is about 14k

You jammy git! that is very nice

[Some Gump]

^ Lol!

I read half the sentence and thought "but that's a lovely watch, no taste police needed". Then saw the cuffs.

[T40ORA]

michael gould said:

well for not an awful lot more than your 2k budget i just purchased this in Platinum ........the equivalent today is about 14k

That's rather splendid actually. Not the cuffs.

[Fatrat]

michael gould said:

well for not an awful lot more than your 2k budget i just purchased this in Platinum ........the equivalent today is about 14k

Didn't know you worked in a nursery MG. Some kid has crayoned on your cuff

Just what is "not an awful lot more"?

(lovely watch)