How accurate should mechanical watch be?

How accurate should mechanical watch be?

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DaveCWK

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1,986 posts

174 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I recently got my first automatic - a Tissot couturier day/date. I believe the movement is an eta 2824.
It gains a consistent 5 seconds a day.

Is that about what you would expect? As it's running fast consistently, is this something which can be adjusted out?

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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For a non-COSC certified movement that's fitted, you're doing well at that rate straight out of the box.
If it's still the same in a fortnight's time or so, then you've even more cause for celebrating.
You could probably get it regulated to be even tighter, but it's hardly worth the bother.

The one thing you should do, is check the time against time.is (atomic time) on your phone's browser before taking it off each night, and leave it in a different position. Check it again in the morning, and it'll give you an idea of its positional accuracy.
You might find one position reduces the overall gain from the day, meaning you'll never be far off the correct time.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I'd be happy with that.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Be grateful it's seconds. biggrin

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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You're in the COSC standards spec for the average daily drift, so it'll be better than quite a lot of big names.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSC

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

210 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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My cheapy Seiko 5 is currently 20 seconds fast. I last reset it (to atomic time) a fortnight ago...

Nigel_O

2,884 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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My six-month old Submariner loses circa 30 seconds a week. My 20-year old Seiko Quartz is accurate to a couple of seconds a year. I only ever wear the Seiko when there's a high risk of damage - the Sub is on my wrist for 99%+ of the time

After wearing the Seiko as a daily for 20 years, I thought the lack of accuracy would bother me - it doesn't and in fact its rather nice to take the Sub off my wrist to reset it - get to feel the quality...

Few buy an automatic for the accuracy

NDA

21,565 posts

225 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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My daily wear is an automatic Breguet. I adjust it a couple of minutes a month.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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My TAG Carrera loses about a minute or so a month.

It was worse before it's first service.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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uncinqsix said:
My cheapy Seiko 5 is currently 20 seconds fast. I last reset it (to atomic time) a fortnight ago...
Thats probably because its inaccuracy and the correction caused by leaving it in a certain position overnight almost completely cancel each oother out.

I had a TAG Heuer regulated by Duval in 1993 and when it came back it was so accurate that it was still witin five seconds between the clocks going forward and going back again! At the time I thought that it was the result of luck and great adjustment, but I now realise that it was a regular schedule and a coincedentally matched inaccuracy and correction as described above.

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

210 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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GC8 said:
uncinqsix said:
My cheapy Seiko 5 is currently 20 seconds fast. I last reset it (to atomic time) a fortnight ago...
Thats probably because its inaccuracy and the correction caused by leaving it in a certain position overnight almost completely cancel each oother out.
Almost certainly. It's probably nearer 5-10 seconds or so per day without that correction (I tend to leave it crown down overnight).

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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grumbledoak said:
Be grateful it's seconds. biggrin
This. My Seiko 5 gains about 10 minutes every 24 hours. frown

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Pints said:
This. My Seiko 5 gains about 10 minutes every 24 hours. frown
Get it looked at – there's a simple remedy to pull that back to a more normal amount of drift.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Cheap if it has come on slowly. Less cheap if it has happened suddenly as itll probably be either the hairspring or maybe a broken mainspring. frown

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

210 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Check it hasn't become magnetised. Mine did not long after I got it, and it started running minutes a day fast. Got it demagnetised, and it went straight back to the <5 seconds average described above.

Nigel_O

2,884 posts

219 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Also OP - gaining a few seconds is a bit easier to correct than losing a few seconds

scarecrow1966

180 posts

145 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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similar question here regarding a two year Seiko Monster with the movement that you can manually wind as well (i know the movement has a specific number but no idea what it is). it has always lost about 30 seconds and i am tempted to buy myself one of little spanners to open it up and see if i can get that down a little.
any views, is it worth a fiddle based on 30secs a day or is this about as good as i should expect. if i could get it to within 10 secs a day then i would be happy, am i being realistic.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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You may be able to correct that by laying it in a different position when you take it off at night.

scarecrow1966

180 posts

145 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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GC8 said:
You may be able to correct that by laying it in a different position when you take it off at night.
i have just been reading about this. i do not usually take it off but i might try for a couple of weeks in different positions and see if i can easily find one which reduces the loss.

thanks

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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If you want accuracy then quartz is the defacto standard. If you want real accuracy then radio link is the way.
In the middle is the Bulova Precisionist range which has a claimed accuracy of 10 seconds per year.

As said previously 5 seconds per day for a non COSC is pretty damned good.