Cartier pasha

[David A]

Any comments on buying from these guys:http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Cartier/Pasha/W31018H3/22896/item/55427

Are the prices "negotiable" (I'm going to ask anyway) I've always wanted one so it might be an impulse buy...

Any other comments welcome

Or any other places that are trustworthy that could have one like this around This price or less?

Edited by David A on Monday 5th October 18:46

[Ikemi]

I haven't bought from them myself, but I know several members on here who have! WatchFinder are a reliable company and as you say, it's always worth asking for some discount off the price.

As for better deals, check www.chrono24.com - Some of the best deals can be found via European sellers due to the strength of the pound. Again, lots of people have bought from the EU without issue. It just depends on your comfort level. Also, do your research on the seller e.g. online reviews, physical store etc.

[David A]

Thanks. A few options on there.

How much of a deal is not having papers or a box I'm not a collector just always wanted one of these.

[Lorneg]

David A said:

Thanks. A few options on there.

How much of a deal is not having papers or a box I'm not a collector just always wanted one of these.

If you have on eye on future re-sale then quite a big deal as you might have people thinking its a fake without the correct documentation. However, you don't actually wear the box and papers, so if you're buying a watch because you love it and will wear it whenever you want then it's not so big a deal. I think the Pasha runs an ETA movement, so if anything goes wrong with it in the future then any decent watchmaker will be able to fix it, replace parts and of course clean and lubricate it once every 5 years or so.

[GCH]

Posting about watchfinder will get you probably a 50/50 split of great/awful..

Am in the latter camp personally and would never go near them again.


Using Chrono24 (or one of the european ebay sites) and taking advantage of the euro will get you the best price but as always, buy the seller.

[David A]

GCH said:

Posting about watchfinder will get you probably a 50/50 split of great/awful..

Am in the latter camp personally and would never go near them again.


Using Chrono24 (or one of the european ebay sites) and taking advantage of the euro will get you the best price but as always, buy the seller.

OK thanks, watchfinder do have quite a varied set of reviews if you google them. There's a few options on chrono24 in particular this one caught my eye https://www.chrono24.co.uk/cartier/pasha-chronogra...

Any general advice on buying from a european shop? I'm fairly wary of buying by bank transfer and must admit my biggest concern is being sold a fake but guess a lot of that comes down to finding a reputable seller.

[Danm1les]

I was about to purchase a watch from abroad, and save my self a few hundred. But I just didn't think it was wort the faff, in the end so I ordered from WF. Tom was great, the watch has exactly as described and arrived the following day with all the paperwork and boxes and they altered the strap for me.

For peace of mind, for me it wasn't worth it, if I have a problem I can just call them and have a response within seconds with someone who speaks English and knows what they are talking about.

[David A]

Lorneg said:

If you have on eye on future re-sale then quite a big deal as you might have people thinking its a fake without the correct documentation. However, you don't actually wear the box and papers, so if you're buying a watch because you love it and will wear it whenever you want then it's not so big a deal. I think the Pasha runs an ETA movement, so if anything goes wrong with it in the future then any decent watchmaker will be able to fix it, replace parts and of course clean and lubricate it once every 5 years or so.

Any pointers on a winder ? Clockwise / anti ? Turns etc? Seems a whole new world to learn!!

[Lorne]

David A said:

Lorneg said:

If you have on eye on future re-sale then quite a big deal as you might have people thinking its a fake without the correct documentation. However, you don't actually wear the box and papers, so if you're buying a watch because you love it and will wear it whenever you want then it's not so big a deal. I think the Pasha runs an ETA movement, so if anything goes wrong with it in the future then any decent watchmaker will be able to fix it, replace parts and of course clean and lubricate it once every 5 years or so.

Any pointers on a winder ? Clockwise / anti ? Turns etc? Seems a whole new world to learn!!

Yes, a whole new world, but one that is both fascinating and not that hard to get to grips with. Also a world that has a lot of opinions, all of which are valid since a watch is one of the most personal things you actually own.

Opinion (ie my own thoughts); no need for a watch winder as your watch will happily run from its spring for a good couple of days if you don't wear it. If you don't wear it for a while some people will say it should be kept running by using a winder, others say let it run flat and wind it up next time you use it.

More opinion; a watch manufacturer will say your watch should be returned to them for a service every 3 to 5 years. They charge you for this, sometimes more than a major service on a nice car. My thoughts are that since a service is re-filling the lubricating reservoirs in the main jewelled bearings, a clean out of any dust and a new set of seals, then I'd take it to a local watchmaker and have it done in a week for less than a hundred quid. I'd also wait 8 years or until the accuracy starts to wander. The jewels used for the bearings are ruby (artificial ruby from aluminium oxide) and have a Mohrs harness of 9, so they can run quite happily with no lubrication for a long time.

On a completely different topic, does anyone know how to change your email address on Pistonheads? I've noticed mine is a company I used to work at, but haven't been able to change it. Hence LorneG is now a new person called Lorne

[David A]

Lorne said:

Yes, a whole new world, but one that is both fascinating and not that hard to get to grips with. Also a world that has a lot of opinions, all of which are valid since a watch is one of the most personal things you actually own.

Opinion (ie my own thoughts); no need for a watch winder as your watch will happily run from its spring for a good couple of days if you don't wear it. If you don't wear it for a while some people will say it should be kept running by using a winder, others say let it run flat and wind it up next time you use it.

More opinion; a watch manufacturer will say your watch should be returned to them for a service every 3 to 5 years. They charge you for this, sometimes more than a major service on a nice car. My thoughts are that since a service is re-filling the lubricating reservoirs in the main jewelled bearings, a clean out of any dust and a new set of seals, then I'd take it to a local watchmaker and have it done in a week for less than a hundred quid. I'd also wait 8 years or until the accuracy starts to wander. The jewels used for the bearings are ruby (artificial ruby from aluminium oxide) and have a Mohrs harness of 9, so they can run quite happily with no lubrication for a long time.

On a completely different topic, does anyone know how to change your email address on Pistonheads? I've noticed mine is a company I used to work at, but haven't been able to change it. Hence LorneG is now a new person called Lorne

On your question I'd email a moderator.

Still haven't got an answer for mine...I may have accidentally bought the watch though..

[David A]

David A said:

Lorneg said:

If you have on eye on future re-sale then quite a big deal as you might have people thinking its a fake without the correct documentation. However, you don't actually wear the box and papers, so if you're buying a watch because you love it and will wear it whenever you want then it's not so big a deal. I think the Pasha runs an ETA movement, so if anything goes wrong with it in the future then any decent watchmaker will be able to fix it, replace parts and of course clean and lubricate it once every 5 years or so.

Any pointers on a winder ? Clockwise / anti ? Turns etc? Seems a whole new world to learn!!

Also interesting it's not an ETA movements its apparently Movement: Cartier 205 Swiss - calibre Cartier 205 (base Frédéric Piguet 1185), rhodium plated, decorated with Cartier-logos, 37 jewels,

Must learn more about these!

[Lorne]

David A said:

David A said:

Lorneg said:

If you have on eye on future re-sale then quite a big deal as you might have people thinking its a fake without the correct documentation. However, you don't actually wear the box and papers, so if you're buying a watch because you love it and will wear it whenever you want then it's not so big a deal. I think the Pasha runs an ETA movement, so if anything goes wrong with it in the future then any decent watchmaker will be able to fix it, replace parts and of course clean and lubricate it once every 5 years or so.

Any pointers on a winder ? Clockwise / anti ? Turns etc? Seems a whole new world to learn!!

Also interesting it's not an ETA movements its apparently Movement: Cartier 205 Swiss - calibre Cartier 205 (base Frédéric Piguet 1185), rhodium plated, decorated with Cartier-logos, 37 jewels,

Must learn more about these!

excellent, the start of a great hobby. Interesting movement. I'd suggest popping the back off and taking a look. Only thing to remember is not to sneeze.

[David A]

Lorne said:

excellent, the start of a great hobby. Interesting movement. I'd suggest popping the back off and taking a look. Only thing to remember is not to sneeze.

No bloody way I'm taking back off ! It has an "exhibition" glass back anyway so I can see it.