A year with "my first Rolex"
Discussion
Firstly OP - congratulations on having enough money to buy a Rolex - I gather they aren't cheap 
However there were a couple of things in your post which struck me as odd - how can something that loses 3 seconds a day be considered quality? My Casio manages to keep perfect time and costs nowhere near a Rolex.
Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
However there were a couple of things in your post which struck me as odd - how can something that loses 3 seconds a day be considered quality? My Casio manages to keep perfect time and costs nowhere near a Rolex.
Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
Countdown said:
However there were a couple of things in your post which struck me as odd - how can something that loses 3 seconds a day be considered quality? My Casio manages to keep perfect time and costs nowhere near a Rolex.
Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
Well, it's a mechanical movement in the Rolex, when you consider how complex it is and how many very small, hand assembled parts there are then 3 seconds a day starts to look pretty good. Battery powered quartz watches will always be more accurate (unless, I suppose, you compare a god awful quartz to a Spring Drive movement) at the end of the day. Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
I imagine the issue with a fake is that the owner is trying to pass off something as genuine when it isn't. I mean, this is a pretty common thing isn't it? People on this site generally wouldn't look too kindly on someone turning up in a badly bodykitted MR2 and claiming it's a Ferrari would they? Just because it's primarily jewellery (to some people at least) doesn't mean it's exempt from this 'rule'.
Countdown said:
Firstly OP - congratulations on having enough money to buy a Rolex - I gather they aren't cheap
However there were a couple of things in your post which struck me as odd - how can something that loses 3 seconds a day be considered quality? My Casio manages to keep perfect time and costs nowhere near a Rolex.
Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
What car do you drive? If its anything other than a 5 year old Corsa, a 10year old Micra, or a 20 year old E36, why? Each of these will happily move you around from place to place, with half-decent reliability and enough power to break any speed limit in this country. Why would you need anything more? Very likely the same reason I wanted a Sub, as well as my deadly-accurate, 20 year old Seiko quartzHowever there were a couple of things in your post which struck me as odd - how can something that loses 3 seconds a day be considered quality? My Casio manages to keep perfect time and costs nowhere near a Rolex.
Secondly If Rolexes (et al) are primarily jewellery then why do fakes attract vitriol?
As for fakes (ie something that is trying to fool others that its the real thing, as opposed to homages, which are merely trying to look LIKE the real thing) - one of the biggest reasons for the vitriol is where the funds might be going - would you be happy knowing that some of the £100-£200 you spent on the fake Submariner might be going to ISIS or Al-Qaeda? Nope, thought not....
Nigel_O said:
What car do you drive? If its anything other than a 5 year old Corsa, a 10year old Micra, or a 20 year old E36, why? Each of these will happily move you around from place to place, with half-decent reliability and enough power to break any speed limit in this country. Why would you need anything more? Very likely the same reason I wanted a Sub, as well as my deadly-accurate, 20 year old Seiko quartz
I have no issues with Micras 
My wife and eldest daughter both learnt to drive in a 10 year old Micra. It's the perfect car for learner drivers or those who just need a shopping trolley. I wouldnt have a Corsa or an E36 because they simply aren't reliable or comfortable enough for what I need. Which is why I drive a Honda. The only reason I can see for having a Sub is because it looks nice and you want to show it off. Please don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong with either of those things. As I think I mentioned above I'd quite happily have a Rolex, it's just not a priority when my cash is limitedNigel_O said:
As for fakes (ie something that is trying to fool others that its the real thing, as opposed to homages, which are merely trying to look LIKE the real thing) - one of the biggest reasons for the vitriol is where the funds might be going - would you be happy knowing that some of the £100-£200 you spent on the fake Submariner might be going to ISIS or Al-Qaeda? Nope, thought not....
Fake rolexes have been around a lot longer than either AQ or ISIS. Plus they're more likely to be funded by oil so if you want to stop funding them you might want to drive less... 
I think the vitriol for fakes is more because it devalues the "kudos" of the genuine ones.
Countdown said:
I think the vitriol for fakes is more because it devalues the "kudos" of the genuine ones.
I don't think so. I would say the vitriol for fakes is for fakes in principle, just that this thread is about watches so Rolex fakes pop up. I think there is a good argument that fakes actually increase the kudos of the genuine item - anyone can buy a fake, but a real one takes some earning.It is obvious that mechanical watches are not bought for their precise accuracy, but it is not obvious that precise accuracy is that important on a wrist watch. It doesn't matter to me at all if my watches pick up or loose a few seconds a day.
Countdown said:
The only reason I can see for having a Sub is because it looks nice and you want to show it off.
In which case, you'll probably never buy one. You'll probably never buy a Porsche either, because "the only reason for having a Porsche is because it looks nice and you want to show it off". God knows what you'd think of a Ferrari. Or a Patek Phillipe.Some people buy nice things because THEY want to enjoy them, not because they want other people to see it.
Its a Civic diesel, isn't it?
Efbe said:
surely uncomfortable, on you and the mrs.
I'm sure mine would complain of it being cold/scratching.
There's a really smutty joke in there somewhere....I'm sure mine would complain of it being cold/scratching.
However, no, she's never noticed it being cold (its close to body temperature as its always on) and for it to scratch her would suggest some kind of intimacy going on...
Nigel_O said:
schmunk said:
Nigel_O said:
Some people buy nice things because THEY want to enjoy them, not because they want other people to see it.
Errrr...
schmunk said:
Nigel_O said:
schmunk said:
Nigel_O said:
Some people buy nice things because THEY want to enjoy them, not because they want other people to see it.
Errrr...Johnny 89 said:
Interesting.. I'm in a similar position to yours twelve months ago..
I want to purchase a submariner and really don't know a great deal about them.
I like the look of the green bezel. What type of price should I be looking at? Does anyone know of any bargains for sale?
http://watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/Submariner/116610%2...I want to purchase a submariner and really don't know a great deal about them.
I like the look of the green bezel. What type of price should I be looking at? Does anyone know of any bargains for sale?
You won't get it much cheaper than that. Plus they will sometimes do a bit of discount or at least give you some 0% finance for a year which is better than nothing.
Nigel_O said:
schmunk said:
Nigel_O said:
schmunk said:
Nigel_O said:
Some people buy nice things because THEY want to enjoy them, not because they want other people to see it.
Errrr...That was certainly a useful discovery, because otherwise you would have had to conclude that you've been mugged for thousands of pounds by a company that spends half the money you gave it on the marketing and sponsorship required to hook the next one.
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