A year with "my first Rolex"
Discussion
All this stuff about replicas - I understand the points ranging from ‘lesser engineering’ to ‘tiny details being wrong’ and in other areas and hobbies I’m fastidious in detail.
BUT in my case there’s no aspect of trying to pass ithe replica off or defrauding anyone that looks at it. I just like the look of it and it tells me the time extremely accurately. It’s also been a laugh at parties and I’m often asked if I can get others one.
No it’s not original. Yes it’s a cheap fake, very very cheap and so probably why it upsets the purists. I wore one of my real ones to my close relatives funerals.
BUT in my case there’s no aspect of trying to pass ithe replica off or defrauding anyone that looks at it. I just like the look of it and it tells me the time extremely accurately. It’s also been a laugh at parties and I’m often asked if I can get others one.
No it’s not original. Yes it’s a cheap fake, very very cheap and so probably why it upsets the purists. I wore one of my real ones to my close relatives funerals.
DickyC said:
The wealthiest chap I know has an apartment in Dolphin Square, a country house in Sussex and a Bentley S3. He also has a particularly tired Ford Focus, he visits charity shops for shoes that were once expensive and he wears a fake Rolex. When I quizzed him on the fake Rolex he said he thought it was hilarious folk spending thousands on a watch. Other folk might think it equally funny to spend tens of thousands of pounds on a car more than fifty years old. And there were some folk of our acquaintance who were positively scathing of his shoe buying habits.
Where are you going with this Dicky?
Horses for courses, mate. Horses for courses.
Oh god, the obligatory 'wealth whispers' post! It had to happen. Where are you going with this Dicky?
Horses for courses, mate. Horses for courses.
I suspect your 'rich' mate isn't quite as rich as you think he is.
Countdown said:
There are plenty (IMO anyway). However some people may prefer the looks of a Rolex but don't want to pay the price. In fact (and I'm no watch expert) aren't there plenty of "homages" that look like more expensive watches but carry a different name? So I suppose the question is, is it "ok" to buy a watch that looks like a Rolex but is a different brand?
Blindfolded, is it possible to "feel the difference" in the quality of a genuine Rolex vs. Fake? Assuming they're the same weight I'm not sure how. But again, that's down to the Fake-owner. If they've bought purely on looks they won't care about "feel", or COSC certification.
That would be akin to buying a fake Rolex that was less than useless at telling the time. That would be the buyers fault and nobody else's. yet it wouldn't explain why the people who visit the genuine Fat Duck would get upset about it. The only explanation I can think of is that somehow they feel it devalues their own personal enjoyment, and the only explanation for that would be "bragging rights".
Would you agree that anybody who buys either a fake Rolex or a genuine Rolex for any reason other than their own personal enjoyment (e.g. for admiring glances/envy/acclaim) is a bit of a cock because, afaics, that's the ONLY reason why the owner of a genuine Rolex would get upset at the owner of a fake.....the knowledge that they're conning people who don't know the difference.
I prefer the look of a Ferrari 250 GTO to the look of my Seat. That doesn't mean I'll go buy a replica made in China from the bones of an old MX-5. I'll just say 'oh well that's out of my price range, I'll look elsewhere.'Blindfolded, is it possible to "feel the difference" in the quality of a genuine Rolex vs. Fake? Assuming they're the same weight I'm not sure how. But again, that's down to the Fake-owner. If they've bought purely on looks they won't care about "feel", or COSC certification.
That would be akin to buying a fake Rolex that was less than useless at telling the time. That would be the buyers fault and nobody else's. yet it wouldn't explain why the people who visit the genuine Fat Duck would get upset about it. The only explanation I can think of is that somehow they feel it devalues their own personal enjoyment, and the only explanation for that would be "bragging rights".
Would you agree that anybody who buys either a fake Rolex or a genuine Rolex for any reason other than their own personal enjoyment (e.g. for admiring glances/envy/acclaim) is a bit of a cock because, afaics, that's the ONLY reason why the owner of a genuine Rolex would get upset at the owner of a fake.....the knowledge that they're conning people who don't know the difference.
I don't have a problem with any homage so long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. Buy a Seiko diver, mod it to look like a Hulk, it'll probably look great. Just don't write 'Rolex' on the dial. Don't put M3 badges on your 320d. Don't draw a Nike tick on your Asda white trainers. Don't write 'girlfriend' on your sister.
I disagree that the only reason the owner of a genuine Rolex would be annoyed is people being conned. A bemusement maybe at someone being fake and trying to pass something off as genuine when in the end the owner of a fake is only conning themselves. I think most people don't get annoyed by it, they just don't understand the desire of someone to be false.
So a table for 2? What time sir?
Bomma220 said:
He said 'wealthiest', not rich. There's a significant difference.
Thanks, Bomma. I dragged in an old friend, without his knowledge, to counter the seductive argument - I think it was 2CV's - that if someone owns something fake, then they are fake. I don't think that's true. He's not a fake, he just does exactly what he wants. He has an apartment in Dolphin Square, he owns a country house and he owns a Bentley S3. He wants them, he can afford them, he has them. Of those, I chose the Bentley to illustrate my point. Some observers might think it insane to spend £38,000 on a car more than fifty years old. He, on the other hand, thinks it's insane to spend thousands on a watch. He didn't brag about the cost of the Bentley, if you were wondering. Knowing of my interest in cars he asked my opinion on an independent inspection and valuation. Fake. Genuine. It's an insoluble pancake.*
*Flann O'Brien The Third Policeman
scoopdydoo said:
I prefer the look of a Ferrari 250 GTO to the look of my Seat. That doesn't mean I'll go buy a replica made in China from the bones of an old MX-5. I'll just say 'oh well that's out of my price range, I'll look elsewhere.'
And again, like your Flat Duck restaurant serving rat, you're not comparing like-for-like. The "Old MX5 China replica" is going to drive nothing like a GTO, whereas as fake and genuine Rolex tell time with the same accuracy, will probably feel the same, and will look the same. Admittedly they won't have the same level of precise engineering enjoyed by genuine owners.But, even if it doesn't drive the same why do you care? You're not the one driving it.....scoopdydoo said:
I don't have a problem with any homage so long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. Buy a Seiko diver, mod it to look like a Hulk, it'll probably look great. Just don't write 'Rolex' on the dial. Don't put M3 badges on your 320d. Don't draw a Nike tick on your Asda white trainers. Don't write 'girlfriend' on your sister.
And if it DOES pretend to be a Rolex, or an M3, or Nike trainers, so what?Is it the fact that they're getting "kudos" that you think should be rightfully reserved for owners of genuine rolexes?scoopdydoo said:
I disagree that the only reason the owner of a genuine Rolex would be annoyed is people being conned. A bemusement maybe at someone being fake and trying to pass something off as genuine when in the end the owner of a fake is only conning themselves. I think most people don't get annoyed by it, they just don't understand the desire of someone to be false.
I can understand the bemusement. However, given the number of posts on here I get the impression that some people are genuinely upset that people dare to wear "fakes". And that is just pure snobbery IMO. Scoopydoo said:
So a table for 2? What time sir?
8:30 please, and I'll be with my girlfriend. Any family resemblance is purely coincidental!!! Do you recommend the Rat Au Vin or the Rat Kiev?scoopdydoo said:
I prefer the look of a Ferrari 250 GTO to the look of my Seat. That doesn't mean I'll go buy a replica made in China from the bones of an old MX-5. I'll just say 'oh well that's out of my price range, I'll look elsewhere.'
I don't have a problem with any homage so long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. Buy a Seiko diver, mod it to look like a Hulk, it'll probably look great. Just don't write 'Rolex' on the dial. Don't put M3 badges on your 320d. Don't draw a Nike tick on your Asda white trainers. Don't write 'girlfriend' on your sister.
I disagree that the only reason the owner of a genuine Rolex would be annoyed is people being conned. A bemusement maybe at someone being fake and trying to pass something off as genuine when in the end the owner of a fake is only conning themselves. I think most people don't get annoyed by it, they just don't understand the desire of someone to be false.
So a table for 2? What time sir?
Probably best don't write 'girlfriend' on your girlfriend either.I don't have a problem with any homage so long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not. Buy a Seiko diver, mod it to look like a Hulk, it'll probably look great. Just don't write 'Rolex' on the dial. Don't put M3 badges on your 320d. Don't draw a Nike tick on your Asda white trainers. Don't write 'girlfriend' on your sister.
I disagree that the only reason the owner of a genuine Rolex would be annoyed is people being conned. A bemusement maybe at someone being fake and trying to pass something off as genuine when in the end the owner of a fake is only conning themselves. I think most people don't get annoyed by it, they just don't understand the desire of someone to be false.
So a table for 2? What time sir?
I like nice watches. I don’t like wasting money. So when I could afford a Rolex it was a no brainer because I basically get to wear a nice watch for free!
It will really irritate the WIS set if I say that I prefer Omega...but I’d lose money on (most) omegas.
It’s all a bit of a joke really, because most Rolex look like something you can get in Next for £25.
/getscoat
It will really irritate the WIS set if I say that I prefer Omega...but I’d lose money on (most) omegas.
It’s all a bit of a joke really, because most Rolex look like something you can get in Next for £25.
/getscoat
audidoody said:
What's the fuss in owning a Rolex anyway? I have two. It's not a big deal. Most people who can pay for a decent holiday can afford one. Compared with half a dozen other watch makes we could all name a Rolex is Christmas cracker cheap and probably free if you ever sell it.
Exactly! It's a weird weird thing!A lot of people don't realise that there are plenty of people out there that buy Rolexes at boutiques on the beach after lunch and don't think anything of it, people who normally wear a Mille or something in that price range!
I love my watches but they don't add anything to "me"
Edited by don logan on Sunday 21st January 14:03
audidoody said:
What's the fuss in owning a Rolex anyway? I have two. It's not a big deal. Most people who can pay for a decent holiday can afford one. Compared with half a dozen other watch makes we could all name a Rolex is Christmas cracker cheap and probably free if you ever sell it.
Exactly. We use them as curtain weights. Just have 40 or 50 of them sewn into the bottom hems and your drapes will hang beautifully. Nigel_O said:
After a few weeks, I got over myself and realised that owning a nice watch is more about personal satisfaction than "look what I've got...". Since then, I smile inwardly to myself every time I glance at the watch.
100% This. 
I don't own a Rolex but Have a small collection of chronogrph and motoring themed watches (6). I enjoy wearing them and they mean a lot to me.
Enjoyed reading your post
V6Pushfit said:
DickyC said:
Exactly. We use them as curtain weights. Just have 40 or 50 of them sewn into the bottom hems and your drapes will hang beautifully.
Dicky you’re just being ridiculous now.Why V6?
Because we get by with three in each plus a Casio in the roller blind. That’s why.
DickyC said:
fatboy18 said:
he Roylex brand you can get at most beaches along the costa del sol would make much better curtain weights.
I wouldn't dream of using fake Rolex as curtain weights. Fancy suggesting such a thing. Where is your self respect?
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