Looking for my first luxury watch... Help!

Looking for my first luxury watch... Help!

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GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Why are so many subs on watchfinder without box and papers?

Why do the original owners not keep these I would have them in a safe!

freshkid

199 posts

192 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Mine's in a cupboard somewhere but I could very easily lose it. If you bought it on a trip somewhere it would be easier to lose the box and wear it home than risk customs finding it. Could also be nicked of course. Loads of reasons.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

111 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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http://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/submariner-no-date...


….and that's before haggling a bit. Ferret around and you'll get a very decent one for £3k, esp. if the £1 strengthens.

As many know there's a date/non-date question. I sold my sub date but kept my non-date. No regrets. Many would disagree.

Great watch, by the way. Absolute all-time classic. All collectors have a sub in their watchbox.

And mine gets plenty of wrist-time - more than any others.


















BrewsterBear

1,506 posts

192 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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You could buy my 46mm Planet Ocean for £2k and when you have a further £1k saved to put to the £1k change you can sell it on for £2k and buy your Sub.

Vinchenzo01

Original Poster:

17 posts

105 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Thanks everyone for there input and opinions on what I should do. It seems like the right thing to do is to just save to buy the watch I want and not get the second best.

I will be saving up and keeping an eye out for a Rolex sub no date at the right price.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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GG89 said:
Why are so many subs on watchfinder without box and papers?

Why do the original owners not keep these I would have them in a safe!
Did you keep the packaging for your TV? Those AA batteries? How about the mobile phone or your iPad/tablet thingy?

For most normal people (not watch fans) boxes and papers (especially once the warranty expires) are just packaging and worthless paper (In fact, that's pretty much what they are in reality...).

I don't imagine the buyers thought about selling their watches when they bought them and even if they did, they probably had no idea people would pay more just for the original box and receipt!

M.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Vinchenzo01 said:
.... I will be saving up and keeping an eye out for a Rolex sub no date at the right price.
What is it about the Sub that makes it the 'must-have' option for you?

Also, I know buying 'used / pre-owned' gets you much better value but if this is a long-term purchase I would seriously look to buy new. There is a 'value' in the experience of buying new, trying different sizes, strap options, colours etc rather than being driven down the more limited choice route of buying used. I bought a new Omega Seamaster PO with bracelet and separate rubber strap with deployment buckle and it still feels special and is a 'keeper' where other nice watches bought 'used' have been sold on.


hosedoctor

664 posts

217 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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grumbledoak said:
Doing this is just going to put you £3k further from the Rolex you really want.

Get something else in the cheap but interesting class now and wait longer, or finance the Rolex now.
Hurry up though I'm still hearing the rumours that Rolex are going up in August??

andyman_2006

723 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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The Surveyor said:
What is it about the Sub that makes it the 'must-have' option for you?

Also, I know buying 'used / pre-owned' gets you much better value but if this is a long-term purchase I would seriously look to buy new. There is a 'value' in the experience of buying new, trying different sizes, strap options, colours etc rather than being driven down the more limited choice route of buying used. I bought a new Omega Seamaster PO with bracelet and separate rubber strap with deployment buckle and it still feels special and is a 'keeper' where other nice watches bought 'used' have been sold on.


I would agree with this in part (often there is not always a huge saving on used ones though depending on model) i'm looking for a Rolex myself, and at the moment considering one of the following: -Deepsea d-blue, -GMT Black/Blue or a -Submariner Date Green 'Hulk' and after a recent visit to look and try some on (superb service by the Way) at a dealer in Harrogate, must say the experience was superb.

Some other factors are price of new vs used, take the D-Blue Deepsea, most are fetching £1500 more than list price, and its the same with the GMT Black/blue and the Sub hulk all selling used at more than list, on this basis i'd rather wait the 3-6 months for a new one, than buy a 1 year old one and pay more.

Also the dealer told me that there are a lot of Fake D-Blues on the used market, fake by the fact a Blue face/dial have been added to a standard Deepsea to try get higher prices. the GMT black/blue are selling for £1000 over list used, which makes no sense to me unless your in a rush and must have it now.

The Dealer also explained about the older generation/range and new current ones, where the new models now have a 5 year warranty and do not need a service for 10 years, where as the older ones need servicing sooner, and have only 2 year warranty, so many used ones will be heading out of warranty, and although a watch dealer might add their 'own warranty' this might not cover you to the same level as a Rolex supplied watch and manufacturer warranty.

All valuable info and with no pressure in a friendly helpful manner, so cant fault this.

I personally would try and buy a new one, and appreciate that your not looking directly for the versions i mentioned but its a safer bet.

Andy

traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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GG89 said:
Why are so many subs on watchfinder without box and papers?

Why do the original owners not keep these I would have them in a safe!
Dog chewed them up?

Lost at sea?

Mislaid whilst house moving from Maida Vale to Knightsbridge?

Who knows

SmokingSideways

7 posts

93 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Just my 2 cents. I think you should just save for the Rolex, it will be worth it. You can't go from with a SS Sub in my opinion.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Vinchenzo01 said:
Thanks everyone for there input and opinions on what I should do. It seems like the right thing to do is to just save to buy the watch I want and not get the second best.

I will be saving up and keeping an eye out for a Rolex sub no date at the right price.
It depends. I was in the same boat as you once. Had wanted a Sea-Dweller for years. When the time came to buy, I lost interest. They are great watches, but I couldn't deal with the idea of wearing EUR 6k on my wrist, and started to find the look a bit boring.

Ended up quelling the thirst for a high-end dive watch with a Breitling SO chrono. Have no desire for a SD anymore. Still think they look nice, but would never buy. Maybe give the Colt another look. The previous model is even nicer, IMO.




Edited by scherzkeks on Tuesday 2nd August 09:19

wong

1,288 posts

216 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Buy a Seiko SKX 007 for 100-120 pounds. Its a well respected budget Auto diver. Add a super oyster bracelet for another 50 or so. Keep saving for the Rolex. Perhaps get sidetracked by other Seiko Divers.

TheJimi

24,985 posts

243 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Ahem...

readit


TheJimi said:
Brand new?

Tudor Black Bay or Tudor North Flag.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

111 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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TheJimi said:
Ahem...

readit


TheJimi said:
Brand new?

Tudor Black Bay or Tudor North Flag.
….or maybe this??


http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?375669-FS-Tu...

Nice for the money, even with the scratched bracelet (which a good Cape Cod polish would probably return to very good).

Edited by drainbrain on Wednesday 3rd August 22:45

Bobajobbob

1,440 posts

96 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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If you buy another watch instead of the sub you will only end up buying the Sub later on. I did just this when I bought an Omega Seamster first but still wanted the Sub and finally bought it later. It was only then I realised I really wanted a Daytona and when I got the Daytona I realised that all along I had really wanted a Panerai and then I realised that it was really an Audemars Piguet that I'd wanted all along. Who'd have thunk it?

Watches can be addictive.

Pommygranite

14,252 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th August 2016
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The depreciation on Breitlings, most Omegas and Tags will make you cry and as you trade up it gets even harder.

I agree - finance the Rolex and enjoy nil depreciation and what you want now.

I had a Breitling Colt Transocean, Omega Speedmaster and a Tag and they all got sold once my GMT2 turned up as they never got worn again.