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Seeing as it was touched on on another thread recently I thought I'd ask.
Me? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
Me? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
They get flack because they cater to a very wide market, the snobs feel that it tarnishes the expensive pieces having mere mortals wearing the same brand.
People don't seem comfortable with their advertising, but the industry as a whole is massively backwards in that respect.
Like most companies they do some s
t pieces, some very nice, and a lot in between. A lot of people seem to jump on the bandwagon with little to no recent experience of the brand.
People don't seem comfortable with their advertising, but the industry as a whole is massively backwards in that respect.
Like most companies they do some s
t pieces, some very nice, and a lot in between. A lot of people seem to jump on the bandwagon with little to no recent experience of the brand. The first few bits of this interview with Jean-Christophe Babin tells you all you need to know.
bigkeeko said:
Seeing as it was touched on on another thread recently I thought I'd ask.
Me? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
Same reason some guys only drink beer with sMe? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
t floating round in it, same reason some people look down their noses at all wine unless it's a Richeburg DRC, same reasons some people bash on about people leasing cars are living beyond their means? Snobbery? Bellendery? Not sure lol.Those hideous plastic things? Meh they are a great example of design, and hugely successful. looking for a watch that evokes the 80s or 90s... It will be plastic, a Swatch or TAG F1. Don't get me wrong these are not the best watches of the 80s/90s but they are the most iconic ones. If you are looking for a watch that will make you money over the next 10 years, I bet the plastic F1 in good condition is a nailed on bet.
Cashing in on the Heuer name? Hardly I would imagine 99% of those buying a TAG HEUER have never even heard of Heuer. I don't think many 20 somethings who are looking for a 1st decent watch will have heard of Heuer as a standalone brand, in fact I would imagine only those who are into watches or wear 1970s rally jackets have!
If it was not for those plastic things, I would be very surprised if Heuer still existed in any form.
I think the issue with the 1887 movement was that TAG called it in house designed when it was not, TAG spent a fortune producing a state of the art manufacturing facility to make this movement, not sure how much if any is made by Sieko. If you want a movement made entirely in-house, good luck the Swiss watch industry has always had small specialist companies that made springs or screws or hands or hour markers (etc you get me lol)
Also in terms of innovation their top end bits are pretty cutting edge.
I am not a huge fan of the current range, but love the 1000s from the 80s, the Superpros, I tried the latest Carera at Goodwood loved it apart form the dial lol.
nikaiyo2 said:
bigkeeko said:
Seeing as it was touched on on another thread recently I thought I'd ask.
Me? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
Not sure lol.Me? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one but wouldn't rule one out either especially if I could flip it. I admittedly like the Monaco but there still is a bit of the company that bugs me.
I remember back in the early 90s my local `jeweller` stocked these hideous plastic dialed, battery operated pieces of junk that the local social status climbers at the time just `had to get`. Cashing in on the Heuer name they were stinking then and they are stinking now but oddly enough old `Tags` are still fawned over by some people. Is this the reason they get a bad rap? Council estate bling maybe?
The Seiko parts in their `Swiss made` 1887 Cal didn't do them any favours either I'm guessing but what I'd like to know is why doesn't for example, Baume et Mercier or Longines get the same stick? Is is an LVMH thing with say, Hublot being equally criticised?
It's one of those brands that gets a bit of pasting by certain watch collectors and I wondered what other people's feelings on them were.
not sure how much if any is made by Sieko. (etc you get me lol)
I tried the latest Carera at Goodwood loved it apart form the dial lol.
bigkeeko said:
Hol said:
I have a Tag F1.
Nowt wrong with it, it tells the time as well.
So does my cooker. Nowt wrong with it, it tells the time as well.
Joking aside, there are some Tags I like. The Monaco (mentioned above), first waterproof rectangular watch and stunning looking. Some less so but that could be said for any manufacturer.
Mine was a present as the wife wanted to buy me something for our anniversary. I buy anything I need as I go along, so a nice watch seemed like a good idea. My initial thought was Submariner and we looked at a few on holiday in the states and home here, but I didn't want to spend £6k on myself in one go on one item.
The TAG was the compromise, that kept her happy and my son got a better car for his 18th.
Win win.
bigkeeko said:
Hol said:
I have a Tag F1.
Nowt wrong with it, it tells the time as well.
So does my cooker. Nowt wrong with it, it tells the time as well.
Joking aside, there are some Tags I like. The Monaco (mentioned above), first waterproof rectangular watch and stunning looking. Some less so but that could be said for any manufacturer.
Surely the "Tag-bashing" on PH is not because they are poor watches, but that they often represent poor value for money compared with alternatives. I guess the same could be said for some Breitlings, but they don't seem to get the same bashing on here as TAG does.
I think the bashing comes from the fact that a watch with the same movement as many TAGs can be had for a fraction of the price. For example, a bit of Googling shows the Aquaracer at c. £1,850 uses the same movements as the Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro at around £600. VERY similar watches, with identical movements, but a 300% price differential.
I reckon TAG is a marketing success and they have managed to position their products at a higher price-point than would be possible with a lesser-known brand. While people are buying their watches, who can blame them? Personally, I rather like some TAGs - Carrera, F1, Aquaracer - both good looking watches (IMHO). If they were substantially sub-£1000, I might have been tempted.
Ultimately, TAG (and Breitling) have created a brand image and they are selling off the back of it. If someone likes their products, or their image, then let them spend their money.
From what I've found, TAGs are by no means the most expensive watches with ETA movements - don't some Tudors use them?
I'm wondering if generally, TAGs are purchased by people who like nice watches, but aren't really INTO watches. That's where I was about three years ago when I thought I wanted a TAG, but started reading this forum...
I think the bashing comes from the fact that a watch with the same movement as many TAGs can be had for a fraction of the price. For example, a bit of Googling shows the Aquaracer at c. £1,850 uses the same movements as the Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro at around £600. VERY similar watches, with identical movements, but a 300% price differential.
I reckon TAG is a marketing success and they have managed to position their products at a higher price-point than would be possible with a lesser-known brand. While people are buying their watches, who can blame them? Personally, I rather like some TAGs - Carrera, F1, Aquaracer - both good looking watches (IMHO). If they were substantially sub-£1000, I might have been tempted.
Ultimately, TAG (and Breitling) have created a brand image and they are selling off the back of it. If someone likes their products, or their image, then let them spend their money.
From what I've found, TAGs are by no means the most expensive watches with ETA movements - don't some Tudors use them?
I'm wondering if generally, TAGs are purchased by people who like nice watches, but aren't really INTO watches. That's where I was about three years ago when I thought I wanted a TAG, but started reading this forum...
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