New Panerai 372 - what to pay?
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/ingear/cars/ar...
sorry, i'm not a Times subscriber so the full article not available. but i think you get the gist....
sorry, i'm not a Times subscriber so the full article not available. but i think you get the gist....
Jomashop has the Panerai PAM00514 Radiomir 1940 Luxury Men's Watch for $5950 - $1000 off with coupon code BF-PM1000 in cart = $4950 with free shipping.Features hand wound Swiss made PAM Caliber P.3000 movement with a 72 hour reserve
Not completely relevant because it is not the same watch or in the UK. But, when I see discounts on watch brands it does not inspire confidence.
Not completely relevant because it is not the same watch or in the UK. But, when I see discounts on watch brands it does not inspire confidence.
david hockney said:
Panerai are now a fashion brand with no horological merit so it's of no surprise to see the 2 posts above -
Even if I am lambasted for saying the truth.
Wouldn't say there's much to complain about with the 337. Manual P.999 in-house movement. What's not to like?Even if I am lambasted for saying the truth.
http://www.worldwatchreview.com/2010/01/20/sihh-20...
Edited by drainbrain on Friday 16th December 15:51
david hockney said:
Richemont have got a terrible reputation full stop- let alone their brand Panerai in particular.
IWC is another brand owned by Richemont that is simply not worth the cash-
I had an original Big Pilot once.......cost over 8 grand and the time keeping was so appalling that it
only lasted about 2 months before I flogged it at great financial loss.
I have no idea what Rolex forums say about Panerai because I've never read any-
but I do know a Rolex Deepsea is better quality than any Panerai X 10- no competition.
The timekeeping must have been terrible to suffer a "great financial loss" on a 2month old watch, surely it would have been more prudent to send it back to IWC to be fixed? I know that the BP may not be brilliant at accuracy, but that is due to having twice the power reserve of a Deepsea. IWC is another brand owned by Richemont that is simply not worth the cash-
I had an original Big Pilot once.......cost over 8 grand and the time keeping was so appalling that it
only lasted about 2 months before I flogged it at great financial loss.
I have no idea what Rolex forums say about Panerai because I've never read any-
but I do know a Rolex Deepsea is better quality than any Panerai X 10- no competition.
I know my BP keeps good enough time for me, but then again the idea of checking the time keeping of Watch is weird to me, unless it's making me late for things.
I think you are sort of missing the point, I would say people who buy Panerais, IWCs etc buy them because they are NOT Rolex.
Have you tried Iconic Watches? They usually have a fair discount on rrp.
https://www.blome-uhren.de/en/panerai-luminor-1950...
I got mine from above and they were great. I can't remember how much it was, but they did give a small discount, I have a feeling around 5-8%, but can't remember exactly.
It was a much better time to buy then, though, as the exchange rate is rubbish now.
https://www.blome-uhren.de/en/panerai-luminor-1950...
I got mine from above and they were great. I can't remember how much it was, but they did give a small discount, I have a feeling around 5-8%, but can't remember exactly.
It was a much better time to buy then, though, as the exchange rate is rubbish now.
Thanks again for all the tips. I'm sure the negative comments come with good intentions but I intentionally only asked for buying advice as I have long since set my mind on the Panerai. That 'want' factor outweighs split-second accuracy. I am not a watch nut as such, just want a beautiful object as a life keeper.
My order is placed now. Hopefully getting the watch next week.
My order is placed now. Hopefully getting the watch next week.
nikaiyo2 said:
The timekeeping must have been terrible to suffer a "great financial loss" on a 2month old watch, surely it would have been more prudent to send it back to IWC to be fixed? I know that the BP may not be brilliant at accuracy, but that is due to having twice the power reserve of a Deepsea.
I know my BP keeps good enough time for me, but then again the idea of checking the time keeping of Watch is weird to me, unless it's making me late for things.
I think you are sort of missing the point, I would say people who buy Panerais, IWCs etc buy them because they are NOT Rolex.
I tried to get the Big Pilot fixed- but after 2 or 3 times being regulated the time keeping was still appalling-I know my BP keeps good enough time for me, but then again the idea of checking the time keeping of Watch is weird to me, unless it's making me late for things.
I think you are sort of missing the point, I would say people who buy Panerais, IWCs etc buy them because they are NOT Rolex.
Shame really because I think they look great. I understand they have a very long power reserve but first and foremost
if I'm spending several grand I like the watch to be accurate. If you wear it daily and it gains 20 secs a day it ain't long
before you are well out of sync.
I'm not sure I totally understand your point about buying an IWC or Panerai because they are NOT Rolex......
There must be other considerations surely?
I know many folk wouldn't be seen dead wearing a Rolex, but it's like walking into a garage and buying a
Toyota solely because it's not a Ferrari.
david hockney said:
I'm not sure I totally understand your point about buying an IWC or Panerai because they are NOT Rolex......
There must be other considerations surely?
Yep; plenty. Such as:There must be other considerations surely?
https://www.revolution.watch/keep-calm-and-hammer-...
Pupp said:
david hockney said:
I'm not sure I totally understand your point about buying an IWC or Panerai because they are NOT Rolex......
There must be other considerations surely?
Yep; plenty. Such as:There must be other considerations surely?
https://www.revolution.watch/keep-calm-and-hammer-...
T S Magnum said:
Thanks again for all the tips. I'm sure the negative comments come with good intentions but I intentionally only asked for buying advice as I have long since set my mind on the Panerai. That 'want' factor outweighs split-second accuracy. I am not a watch nut as such, just want a beautiful object as a life keeper.
My order is placed now. Hopefully getting the watch next week.
Best reason to buy anything My order is placed now. Hopefully getting the watch next week.
Enjoy dude.
david hockney said:
I've had a Luminor Marina and a Radiomir- both were fine.....although the Luminor had a ETA movement and the Radiomir
was the model which had a JLC movement.
But the brutal truth is that in many watch enthusiast circles Panerai are regarded as crap quality-
One or two English Panerai authorised dealers voluntarily stopped selling Panerai because they were fed up with
the grief of returning watches to be fixed etc.
Without wishing to sound a Rolex fanboy- how many Submariners or Daytona's do you know get sent back to Rolex
to be fixed under warranty? Not many.
I find that hard to believe to be honest , sending watches back for warranty work is hardly the end of the world and part and parcel of retailing anyway.was the model which had a JLC movement.
But the brutal truth is that in many watch enthusiast circles Panerai are regarded as crap quality-
One or two English Panerai authorised dealers voluntarily stopped selling Panerai because they were fed up with
the grief of returning watches to be fixed etc.
Without wishing to sound a Rolex fanboy- how many Submariners or Daytona's do you know get sent back to Rolex
to be fixed under warranty? Not many.
No , just can't think why any decent retailer would delist a brand for such a minor issue. More importantly why would they admit that they cannot deal with returns ?
Internet rumour at best I reckon.
Buster73 said:
I find that hard to believe to be honest , sending watches back for warranty work is hardly the end of the world and part and parcel of retailing anyway.
No , just can't think why any decent retailer would delist a brand for such a minor issue. More importantly why would they admit that they cannot deal with returns ?
Internet rumour at best I reckon.
To be honest several of my friends work in the high end watch industry- it's not just a rumour!No , just can't think why any decent retailer would delist a brand for such a minor issue. More importantly why would they admit that they cannot deal with returns ?
Internet rumour at best I reckon.
Any watch AD worth its salt would be devastated to lose some certain brands which are cash cows-
but Panerai ain't one of them.
I recall once asking to try on a Radiomir in WOS in Mayfair and without even saying a word the salesman
offered to knock off 40% !! I was shocked -but it just shows they don't fly off the shelves because try getting that
discount on any decent brand.
WaferThinHam said:
Pupp said:
david hockney said:
I'm not sure I totally understand your point about buying an IWC or Panerai because they are NOT Rolex......
There must be other considerations surely?
Yep; plenty. Such as:There must be other considerations surely?
https://www.revolution.watch/keep-calm-and-hammer-...
he was riding the waves and hit a shallow sand bar which caused all the injuries- terrible bad luck.
I didn't know he had already built up and sold a successful company- I did wonder though how he could afford such a huge collection of expensive watches.......
david hockney said:
I didn't know he had already built up and sold a successful company- I did wonder though how he could afford such a huge collection of expensive watches.......
Sorry if it's me missing something obvious (quite possible), but care to elaborate on the inference here please? I posted this link in response to your challenge as an illustration of why someone in the obvious Rolex target market might prefer to buy Panerai, based on cameraderie, brand image and horological history, all of which the article references. What I'm not getting (sorry if it's me being thick) is how the fact the guy might have been successful and sold a bunch of other stuff might adversely affect the story (if that is, indeed, what is suggested)?
Pupp said:
Sorry if it's me missing something obvious (quite possible), but care to elaborate on the inference here please? I posted this link in response to your challenge as an illustration of why someone in the obvious Rolex target market might prefer to buy Panerai, based on cameraderie, brand image and horological history, all of which the article references. What I'm not getting (sorry if it's me being thick) is how the fact the guy might have been successful and sold a bunch of other stuff might adversely affect the story (if that is, indeed, what is suggested)?
I used to regularly read Hammer's posts on Paneristi.com but did not know until reading the link you posted that he had built up and sold a huge company prior to his accident. This obviously absolutely in no way adversely affects the story - and I clearly in no way implied it did.Gassing Station | Watches | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff