Helgray Watches on Kickstarter

Helgray Watches on Kickstarter

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GOG440

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9,247 posts

190 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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Anyone bought any of these?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/helgray/helgr...

Looks like I may have missed some earlier editions, but I have one of these winging its way later in the year

dxbtiger

4,389 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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GOG440 said:
Anyone bought any of these?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/helgray/helgr...

Looks like I may have missed some earlier editions, but I have one of these winging its way later in the year
Yep, I signed up day one.

What colour did you go for, I toyed with the idea of rose gold but went for the all black in the end.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Before I saw what was going on...

I saw $148,704...

I pooped.

Badvok

1,867 posts

167 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I wouldnt touch anything on Scamstarter with a barge pole!

warren182

1,088 posts

210 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Badvok said:
I wouldnt touch anything on Scamstarter with a barge pole!
From experience, or rumour and Chinese whispers?

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Badvok said:
I wouldnt touch anything on Scamstarter with a barge pole!
You might be missing out. Chap at work bought a watch on KS, it's a superb watch and, as keen on horology as the next bloke on here, he's been incredibly pleased with it for over a year now.

Jobbo

12,972 posts

264 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I signed up on day 1 too (thanks to Ev posting a picture on here beforehand) - they're nice looking. I know the movement is nothing special but I'm willing to take a punt. Think I went rose gold in the end though I flip-flopped between the colours before filling in the form. The fairly even split does indicate people like all the colours.

How much is an ETA 2824 movement? £30 or so? You can level the same criticism at any watch really so the cheap movement doesn't worry me. I look forward to seeing what it'll be like in the flesh. I'm not expecting that it'll seem good value if you paid RRP though.

Ikemi

8,445 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Jobbo said:
How much is an ETA 2824 movement? £30 or so? You can level the same criticism at any watch really so the cheap movement doesn't worry me. I look forward to seeing what it'll be like in the flesh. I'm not expecting that it'll seem good value if you paid RRP though.
ETA 2824 ... Around £200 to the general public.

Jobbo

12,972 posts

264 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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But in bulk to a watch builder?

Ikemi

8,445 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Jobbo said:
But in bulk to a watch builder?
Less, but ETA/Swatch do have a tendency to act rather funny when it comes to supplying movements. To be honest, for the price, it's a shame they didn't use a Miyota automatic movement. However that said, there are certainly more expensive quartz watches out there. Just look at the Omega and TAG quartz models!

tertius

6,856 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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NeMiSiS said:
Genuine ETA movements are becoming more and more difficult to buy, genuine ETA service parts too.

Whoever you are.

I've been paying euro375-400 for ETA 7750's up until August of 2016, now I can't buy 1.

Miyota quarts movements are built into many cases then branded by anyone, they are quality, reliable, easy to obtain, cheap movements. If I was to take the watch you chose to its singular build components including the branded/logoed crown, and 'racing real leather strap', you would be amazed at the profit margin for a 1000 piece box drop.(including the 20 minutes labour and packaging that goes with it.)

But I wouldn't itemise the build price as that is unfair, it is what it is, and it ain't what it ain't, if someone is willing to buy, then someone is willing to make a profit, everyone is happy......
Certainly works for practically every other watch maker on the planet, so I wouldn't single out the Kickstarter brands for doing what most do.

Jobbo

12,972 posts

264 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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At the exchange rate on the day my payment was taken, including U.K. delivery, it came to almost exactly £199. For a watch I haven't yet seen, and which I didn't know would come with sapphire crystal when I backed it. I don't think it's amazing value; I got my Seiko Alpinist for £210. But it's little enough money to have had some fun.

Ikemi

8,445 posts

205 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Sapphire crystal on a £200 watch ain't bad though!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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The words "classy" and "badass" do not sit comfortably when you're claiming to emulate quality manufacturers.

jdw100

4,111 posts

164 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Badvok said:
I wouldnt touch anything on Scamstarter with a barge pole!
I've got 5 watches from 'scamstarter'. I'm really pleased with them all.

In fact I'm so pleased with a recent one I'm buying the guy behind it a beer in Singapore in a couple of weeks time. He's going to bring along a prototype to show me and also let me have a spare strap he has left over from the original project.

Not quite sure how I'm being scammed - since all the watches are in my possession.

Is the guy I mention above playing a long game and was hoping I'd be in Singapore at some point this year and he's going to try and get my bank details? Fair play to him if he is as he's been organising this complex scam since March last year.

Do you know what the word 'scam' means? Maybe you have it confused with something else?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
The words "classy" and "badass" do not sit comfortably when you're claiming to emulate quality manufacturers.
My thoughts exactly.

jdw100

4,111 posts

164 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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NeMiSiS said:
You are James Bond.
I'm a fictional character? Not last time I checked ....

Not sure what you're getting at, probably gone over my head!


Edited by jdw100 on Sunday 15th January 16:06

Badvok

1,867 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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I wasn't specifically talking about this projects and I'm glad a number of watch projects have delivered for you. I backed znaps which has not delivered and there have been a number of blatant scams on kickstarter that I won't touch the platform until some protection for backers is put in place

GOG440

Original Poster:

9,247 posts

190 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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It arrived today, a bit later than they originally said, but I am very happy with it, looks really nice

Jobbo

12,972 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th August 2017
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Mine arrived today too. The cardboard box is a bit cheap but hey, it's a micro-brand. Haven't tried it on yet; I can see some decent finishing but it doesn't wow me on first handling.