Planet Ocean - To Bond or not to Bond

Planet Ocean - To Bond or not to Bond

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T6 vanman

3,055 posts

98 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Just to through some more agony into the mix

S/Hand will be so much cheaper than new but if as you indicate it's a 'special' and a keeper,

The buying new experience and having the thought it's been yours all it's life when you look back is also something to think about

Don't forget a wrist shot to close the thread :beers:

T6 vanman

3,055 posts

98 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Just to through some more agony into the mix

S/Hand will be so much cheaper than new but if as you indicate it's a 'special' and a keeper,

The buying new experience and having the thought it's been yours all it's life when you look back is also something to think about

Don't forget a wrist shot to close the thread beer

ellroy

7,000 posts

224 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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dc2rr07 said:
In the first film Dr No he had a Rolex Sub for what's it's worth, I believe in the books Bond had a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Chronometer.
Had the sub, non date Iirc, in a couple of movies, but the books are very unspecific around the model. There's been a lot of detective work on the Rolex forums to figure out which one it is according to a pal of mine, but can't recall what they narrowed it down to. You may be on the right lines though.

aeropilot

34,286 posts

226 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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dc2rr07 said:
ellroy said:
aeropilot said:
My thoughts exactly, I'd avoid the special editions as well.

Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch wink)
Only no one knows that, it's never specified in the original books, it's just referred to as a Rolex.
In the first film Dr No he had a Rolex Sub for what's it's worth
And in a quite a number of subsequent Bond Movies as well, right up to Dalton's last Bond film, which I believe was the last time a Sub or GMT was worn by a 'Bond'.

wack

2,103 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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I've got a 2002 seamaster Die another Day

My dad wanted to buy my sister and I something after he had a heart attack and thought he was going to check out so I chose this used , it was under a year old at the time

OP don't worry about what people think, buy the watch you like , it's you that's wearing it , I love my bond watch, my son was 6 when I got it , I told him it was James Bonds watch , he didn't believe me until I showed him it had 007 written on it then it was whoa that's, James bonds watch biggrin

ALY77

Original Poster:

666 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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T6 vanman said:
Don't forget a wrist shot to close the thread :beers:
So no wrist shot as I'm awaiting a call to say it has arrived in store. However I'm pleased to say I will shortly be the owner of a brand new Omega.

Truth be told I fancied three variations of the PO by the time I got to putting them on my wrist and a 41mm Diver 300 was still an outside possibility too.

Had narrowed it down to;

Diver 300M 212.30.41.20.01.003
Planet Ocean 42mm 232.30.42.21.01.001
Planet Ocean 39.5mm 215.30.40.20.01.001
Planet Ocean 43.5mm 215.30.44.21.01.001

Trying them on turned things on their head slightly as I thought the newer 39.5mm Master Chrono would best fit my girlie 6.5 inch wrists. In the metal, it just didn't look right - the proportions are wrong at the diameter size.
The 43.5 looked good, but too big on my aforementioned girlie wrists. I thought it might but it was mostly as my pronounced ulna bone at my wrist made what is a flatter back on the newer case sizes sit the watch higher than the older 42mm cased PO.
I found the diver too plain - From them all, it was the one that looked more different on my wrist than it had on line and on display.

So from having picked out one that looked like "the one", having my head turned by limited edition exclusivity (albeit movie themed), then again by shiny black bezel equipped newer size options and maybe even a non PO altogether, I've ended up going for the one I was going to in the beginning. Arriving soon, one black faced, matt grey bezel 42mm PO on a stainless bracelet!


In the time I've been considering my options, the birthday has came and went too.

Given the lack of a photos of a watch yet, here is a couple of how I spent that, this is Pistonheads after all...






























Edited by ALY77 on Thursday 16th February 19:35

ellroy

7,000 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Glencoe?

T6 vanman

3,055 posts

98 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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ALY77 said:
T6 vanman said:
Don't forget a wrist shot to close the thread :beers:
So no wrist shot as I'm awaiting a call to say it has arrived in store.
Given the lack of a photos of a watch yet, here is a couple of how I spent that, this is Pistonheads after all...


Edited by ALY77 on Thursday 16th February 19:35
nono
This is the Watch forum

Not the scenic vista forum beer

benjijames28

1,702 posts

91 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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I'm going to do you a favour here and save you some money.

Firstly skip special editions, they are not so special and almost nobody cares about them, and in several years even less people will care about a James bond watch.

Secondly, don't buy an omega new, they don't hold any value, buy used or at the very least grey market. When I was looking at planet oceans I could get over a grand off a brand new watch via grey market. I also see my local Ad offering 20 percent off all omega a few times per year.

Dont pay full price!

Other then that I would say the planet ocean s a very nice looking watch. I prefer the ones with the 2500 movement as they were much thinner. Maybe look at buying one of those used? That will go up in value.

ALY77

Original Poster:

666 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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ellroy said:
Glencoe?
First two are Rannoch Moor on approach to Glencoe yes!

BJ, thanks for the input, slightly late as I bought at the start of the week however I have secured the watch, new, with a suitable sizable discount also.

Wills2

22,658 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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benjijames28 said:
I'm going to do you a favour here and save you some money.

Firstly skip special editions, they are not so special and almost nobody cares about them, and in several years even less people will care about a James bond watch.

Secondly, don't buy an omega new, they don't hold any value, buy used or at the very least grey market. When I was looking at planet oceans I could get over a grand off a brand new watch via grey market. I also see my local Ad offering 20 percent off all omega a few times per year.

Dont pay full price!

Other then that I would say the planet ocean s a very nice looking watch. I prefer the ones with the 2500 movement as they were much thinner. Maybe look at buying one of those used? That will go up in value.
"They don't hold ANY value" is a strong statement and not true, of course they hold some value otherwise there wouldn't be a healthy secondhand market.

Some Omega special editions are very sought after and command x2 the retail price although that's mainly the speedmasters.

The 2500 comment makes some sense but I'd look for a 2500D as that's the best of breed in terms of that movement.

Omega are also making some great movements the 9900 Master Chronometer as an example.






Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 18th February 20:57

traffman

2,263 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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I agree , don't bother with the Limited Edition ....if you must , then of course. You are the one purchasing.

The value will drop , and gradually over time steady . The great thing about decent watches is you can trade them against another. I cant really see it being a blue chip investment though.

Wear with pride.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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benjijames28 said:
I'm going to do you a favour here and save you some money.

Firstly skip special editions, they are not so special and almost nobody cares about them, and in several years even less people will care about a James bond watch.

Secondly, don't buy an omega new, they don't hold any value, buy used or at the very least grey market. When I was looking at planet oceans I could get over a grand off a brand new watch via grey market. I also see my local Ad offering 20 percent off all omega a few times per year.

Dont pay full price!

Other then that I would say the planet ocean s a very nice looking watch. I prefer the ones with the 2500 movement as they were much thinner. Maybe look at buying one of those used? That will go up in value.
How'd you figure that one out then, considering the OP's OP was about being unable to find a limited edition Omega at less than list price confused

benjijames28

1,702 posts

91 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
How'd you figure that one out then, considering the OP's OP was about being unable to find a limited edition Omega at less than list price confused
How much of a premium do you expect a 007 spectre watch to fetch in ten years?

As for my comments on omega holding no value... They don't, you pay 5k retail on an omega it will be worth 3k the second you take tag off.

Wills2

22,658 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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benjijames28 said:
How much of a premium do you expect a 007 spectre watch to fetch in ten years?

As for my comments on omega holding no value... They don't, you pay 5k retail on an omega it will be worth 3k the second you take tag off.
3k is a "value" you stated that they didn't hold "any value" most if not all watches lose money (part of their value) from retail with a few exceptions, some of the speedmaster special editions being an example of those that don't and actually double in value if you can one at retail.

You're not making any sense....


Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 18th February 23:28

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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benjijames28 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
How'd you figure that one out then, considering the OP's OP was about being unable to find a limited edition Omega at less than list price confused
1How much of a premium do you expect a 007 spectre watch to fetch in ten years?

2As for my comments on omega holding no value... They don't, you pay 5k retail on an omega it will be worth 3k the second you take tag off.
1 I've no idea, my crystal ball is away being serviced. Presumably yours is fully functioning?

2 Obvioualy not the aforementioned 007 Spectre watch. Otherwise find us one and post the link up.

TL;DR - Stop talking clart, it's making you come across as a colossal tube. As above, almost every watch loses some value when purchased new including Rolex, Patek, Cartier to name but a few. It's not a stick to beat just Omega with.

Ikemi

8,438 posts

204 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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cbmotorsport said:
Once Skyfall is a distant memory in a few years( I don't think the newest Bond movies will endure like the classic ones) you'll probably find your special edition PO will settle to roughly the same money as a normal one.
... if not less. The special edition Bond models are not limited enough in terms of quantity to be seen as a genuine investment over a standard version and the film tie-in only appeals to some. I would personally opt for (and have done!) the standard model, which is what Bond wears in the film - he doesn't wear the special edition wink

However if you prefer the design and the additional extras included in the special edition, go for it! You're the one wearing the watch! Get whichever one makes you happier! smile

audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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The original and the best.

Nice watch as well.

gregd

1,640 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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That's partly why I went for a Tudor Black Bay Black to get that original Bond Sub look at a fraction of the price! Just as nice on the bracelet as on a NATO or leather strap. When it comes to Seamasters I'd tend to go for a standard watch rather than a Bond special edition (unless it's the Spectre one which IIRC is the same as what he wears in the film).. I've got a quartz Seamaster which is like the Brosnan era Bond watch and that I've had for 15 years or so from new.. Not worth much now but it is still a nice watch.