Talk me out of a Tudor...
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thebraketester said:
I have lots of intelligent friends thank you. They wouldn't know what a Tudor watch was if it fell on their head.
thebraketester said:
I would never buy a Tudor simple based on the following line of questioning from uninformed friends.
"Is that a new watch"
"Yes"
"Is it a Rolex?"
"No, it's a Tudor... it's.... *insert mundane explanation here*"
"Ohh, so why didn't you buy a Rolex then"
Etc etc.
Save up and buy a Rolex.
99.9% of people wouldn't be aware the link between Rolex and Tudor therefore wouldn't be asking the question, and I really don't get the twaddle about buying a Boxster only because a 911 is out of reach. Yes it's buying into the brand at a lower price point however who looks at someone wearing a steel Rolex and looks down on them because the wearer can't afford a precious metal variant?"Is that a new watch"
"Yes"
"Is it a Rolex?"
"No, it's a Tudor... it's.... *insert mundane explanation here*"
"Ohh, so why didn't you buy a Rolex then"
Etc etc.
Save up and buy a Rolex.
OP - Tudor are popular for good reason though you really must try before you buy if you're doubting the size. Both the BB and Pelagos will look and feel much larger than your CW and they're both, as has been said, a good deal chunkier than your father's Sub, and it's their slab-sidedness that has put me off getting either. Consider buying pre-owned if it'll be a stopgap to a Rolex, a pre-inhouse Pelagos can be had for ~£1850 and would have already shed the largest chunk of depreciation that they're likely to suffer from.
Edited by CardShark on Thursday 23 February 11:05
lostkiwi said:
I'd almost buy a Tudor because its NOT a Rolex (well not marked Rolex at least).
Rolex's are like BMWs. Nice, well made, but its what almost anyone who comes into a bit of money will buy because of its image.
OP - If you like the Tudor buy it. If its a Rolex you want save up for it.
[/end of thread]Rolex's are like BMWs. Nice, well made, but its what almost anyone who comes into a bit of money will buy because of its image.
OP - If you like the Tudor buy it. If its a Rolex you want save up for it.
Thank you all for your replies, you've certainly given me a lot to think about, and perhaps I should have explained a few more crucial details first which would make my question more understandable.
I have (briefly) worn my Dad's submariner, and whilst it felt 'big' on the wrist, i didn't feel 'over watched'. Hence my looking for the Hulk. Interestingly they're both thinner than my CW, owing to their 300m rating rather than the C60's 600m.
My craving for a Rolex isn't because of the brand, its because I like the submariner-style dive watch. With the exception of the everose yachtmaster with the oysterflex I don't like any other Rolex enough to even consider it. And the yachtmaster is about £14,000 and so is another league, personally.
With regard to budget, I was prepared (naively) to spend up to £4.5k-£5k at a push, assuming (foolishly, it seems) that I could somehow obtain the hulk for that. I didn't want to push my budget to over £7k, but I didn't want to spend that kind of money for the sake of buying into a brand. Hence the Tudor, a watch that I really like the look of - although I have gone off the Pelagos in the last day, the blue is the wrong blue, as has been mentioned above - so the black bay blue would be the choice, if it fits.
In summary, I'm not surprised people would suggest the 'Why didn't you buy ___' and having to explain a Tudor - but then again I've had to explain my CW and didn't feel embarrassed about that.
Thanks again, and I'm sure to keep you posted of any impending purchase!
I have (briefly) worn my Dad's submariner, and whilst it felt 'big' on the wrist, i didn't feel 'over watched'. Hence my looking for the Hulk. Interestingly they're both thinner than my CW, owing to their 300m rating rather than the C60's 600m.
My craving for a Rolex isn't because of the brand, its because I like the submariner-style dive watch. With the exception of the everose yachtmaster with the oysterflex I don't like any other Rolex enough to even consider it. And the yachtmaster is about £14,000 and so is another league, personally.
With regard to budget, I was prepared (naively) to spend up to £4.5k-£5k at a push, assuming (foolishly, it seems) that I could somehow obtain the hulk for that. I didn't want to push my budget to over £7k, but I didn't want to spend that kind of money for the sake of buying into a brand. Hence the Tudor, a watch that I really like the look of - although I have gone off the Pelagos in the last day, the blue is the wrong blue, as has been mentioned above - so the black bay blue would be the choice, if it fits.
In summary, I'm not surprised people would suggest the 'Why didn't you buy ___' and having to explain a Tudor - but then again I've had to explain my CW and didn't feel embarrassed about that.
Thanks again, and I'm sure to keep you posted of any impending purchase!
LaurasOtherHalf said:
£4-£4.5K, £5K at a push?
Maybe not a Hulk but you can get any number of Rolex Submariners from £3.5K+
The 114060 'no date' retails at £5,450 IIRC, and is becoming more and more tempting as I continue to look... perhaps everyone was right and I really do want a Rolex... perhaps I need to look down the back of the sofas.Maybe not a Hulk but you can get any number of Rolex Submariners from £3.5K+
I definitely want a ceramic bezel, not only for looks (the debossed increments and gloss finish) but for durability. If the clasp of my CW is anything to go by an aluminium bezel would be ruined in minutes on my wrists. The only personal issue is I would like one new, or at least unworn. Something about a used one doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the potential savings available.
It appears I've wasted everyone's time by asking about a Tudor, please mock accordingly and then go about your business!
OGR4M said:
The 114060 'no date' retails at £5,450 IIRC, and is becoming more and more tempting as I continue to look... perhaps everyone was right and I really do want a Rolex... perhaps I need to look down the back of the sofas.
I definitely want a ceramic bezel, not only for looks (the debossed increments and gloss finish) but for durability. If the clasp of my CW is anything to go by an aluminium bezel would be ruined in minutes on my wrists. The only personal issue is I would like one new, or at least unworn. Something about a used one doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the potential savings available.
It appears I've wasted everyone's time by asking about a Tudor, please mock accordingly and then go about your business!
Well done, it took a while but you got there. It was obviously what you really wanted.I definitely want a ceramic bezel, not only for looks (the debossed increments and gloss finish) but for durability. If the clasp of my CW is anything to go by an aluminium bezel would be ruined in minutes on my wrists. The only personal issue is I would like one new, or at least unworn. Something about a used one doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the potential savings available.
It appears I've wasted everyone's time by asking about a Tudor, please mock accordingly and then go about your business!
Ceamic bezel - do you realy want one? The ceramic Subs have chunkier cases, and as we have established you haven't got chunky wrists. As for duarability, the pre-ceramic are probably MORE durable. There are a few broken ceramic bezels out there...
The pre-ceramic watches have rattly bracelets, but that doesn't mean they are not robust. They are very robust.
You COULD buy a pre-ceramic Sub that has been serviced by Rolex - it will look a lot like a new one and won't be in the slightest bit soiled. It will look better on your wrist.
Of course if you must have ceramic, new one, there is an unimited supply out there and if you really must you'll probably get 2 years worth of HP on one.
13m said:
OGR4M said:
The 114060 'no date' retails at £5,450 IIRC, and is becoming more and more tempting as I continue to look... perhaps everyone was right and I really do want a Rolex... perhaps I need to look down the back of the sofas.
I definitely want a ceramic bezel, not only for looks (the debossed increments and gloss finish) but for durability. If the clasp of my CW is anything to go by an aluminium bezel would be ruined in minutes on my wrists. The only personal issue is I would like one new, or at least unworn. Something about a used one doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the potential savings available.
It appears I've wasted everyone's time by asking about a Tudor, please mock accordingly and then go about your business!
Well done, it took a while but you got there. It was obviously what you really wanted.I definitely want a ceramic bezel, not only for looks (the debossed increments and gloss finish) but for durability. If the clasp of my CW is anything to go by an aluminium bezel would be ruined in minutes on my wrists. The only personal issue is I would like one new, or at least unworn. Something about a used one doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the potential savings available.
It appears I've wasted everyone's time by asking about a Tudor, please mock accordingly and then go about your business!
Ceamic bezel - do you realy want one? The ceramic Subs have chunkier cases, and as we have established you haven't got chunky wrists. As for duarability, the pre-ceramic are probably MORE durable. There are a few broken ceramic bezels out there...
The pre-ceramic watches have rattly bracelets, but that doesn't mean they are not robust. They are very robust.
You COULD buy a pre-ceramic Sub that has been serviced by Rolex - it will look a lot like a new one and won't be in the slightest bit soiled. It will look better on your wrist.
Of course if you must have ceramic, new one, there is an unimited supply out there and if you really must you'll probably get 2 years worth of HP on one.
Also the glidelock clasp is a much more appealing prospect, rather than the predecessor - although I'm crossing my fingers that Rolex release the Oysterflex bracelet at some point...
Ceramic subs are tough as old boots. Wear mine every day to cycle, work on the car, do the dishes, climb over walls, ride my skateboard, go surfing, chase children...it has barely a mark after years of wear. The worst damage inflicted on it so far is some light scratching from my Macbook.
The old one is just as tough, wears slightly smaller, and looks absolutely lovely but feels its age IMHO.
Don't understand the hangup about buying used. These things are designed to way outlast their owners so there's no real benefit to buying new.
The old one is just as tough, wears slightly smaller, and looks absolutely lovely but feels its age IMHO.
Don't understand the hangup about buying used. These things are designed to way outlast their owners so there's no real benefit to buying new.
Buy a Steinhart Ocean 500 for about £500, save up and buy the Rolex.
I was all set for a Pelagos (ever since they first came out really), but the Ocean 500 does everything I want with a finish that is almost, but not quite, as good as the Pelagos (clasp is nowhere near as good). Having said that, it gets worn daily with a fair amount of abuse, and I'd much rather damage that than a Pelagos at 5 times the price.
I was all set for a Pelagos (ever since they first came out really), but the Ocean 500 does everything I want with a finish that is almost, but not quite, as good as the Pelagos (clasp is nowhere near as good). Having said that, it gets worn daily with a fair amount of abuse, and I'd much rather damage that than a Pelagos at 5 times the price.
AlasdairMc said:
Buy a Steinhart Ocean 500 for about £500, save up and buy the Rolex.
I was all set for a Pelagos (ever since they first came out really), but the Ocean 500 does everything I want with a finish that is almost, but not quite, as good as the Pelagos (clasp is nowhere near as good). Having said that, it gets worn daily with a fair amount of abuse, and I'd much rather damage that than a Pelagos at 5 times the price.
I appreciate your thought process, and a Steinhart was on the cards, but now I have a £600 CW on my wrist, so surely a Steinhart is a 'too big' and (in my opinion) not as good looking version of what I already have. I was all set for a Pelagos (ever since they first came out really), but the Ocean 500 does everything I want with a finish that is almost, but not quite, as good as the Pelagos (clasp is nowhere near as good). Having said that, it gets worn daily with a fair amount of abuse, and I'd much rather damage that than a Pelagos at 5 times the price.
Face it son, you're going to have to man-up and get an 114060 and hold off on the XF until a facelift S drops to £15k - it'll happen in the next 6-12 months and it means we get to use the 159SW for LeMans
Besides, it saves me having to mortgage your mother for an Everose Yachtmaster just to stay ahead of you.....
Edit - besides, you can sell the CW and the net cost of the Sub is around £5k
Besides, it saves me having to mortgage your mother for an Everose Yachtmaster just to stay ahead of you.....
Edit - besides, you can sell the CW and the net cost of the Sub is around £5k
Nigel_O said:
Face it son, you're going to have to man-up and get an 114060 and hold off on the XF until a facelift S drops to £15k - it'll happen in the next 6-12 months and it means we get to use the 159SW for LeMans
Besides, it saves me having to mortgage your mother for an Everose Yachtmaster just to stay ahead of you.....
Edit - besides, you can sell the CW and the net cost of the Sub is around £5k
Perhaps I can utilise your Yorkshire upbringing to annoy an AD into giving a meagre discount...Besides, it saves me having to mortgage your mother for an Everose Yachtmaster just to stay ahead of you.....
Edit - besides, you can sell the CW and the net cost of the Sub is around £5k
OGR4M said:
Perhaps I can utilise your Yorkshire upbringing to annoy an AD into giving a meagre discount...
Tall order, but I'm always willing to have a crack at Watches of Switzerland on New Street - we walk in, tell them you're interested in a Pelagos, but you really want a Sub, but can't quite run to RRP - simples..... I got this recently , its a lovely watch , 3185 movement which is the same movement found in the older Gmt's.
Fixed bezel and usual tough Rolex build quality.
If you fancy a Tudor then go for it. I love the blue dial/bezel version.
If you want a sub then do it....you''ll allways look them up on the internet and admire the Submariner. As long as you won't regret buying the Tudor after ten years.
Fixed bezel and usual tough Rolex build quality.
If you fancy a Tudor then go for it. I love the blue dial/bezel version.
If you want a sub then do it....you''ll allways look them up on the internet and admire the Submariner. As long as you won't regret buying the Tudor after ten years.
I have a Black Bay (red bezel) as well as a Submariner (16610).
I love my Submariner but the Tudor really is a great watch. Others will no doubt disagree but I'd say it's 90% of the watch for around a third of the price.
Saw a lovely red Black Bay today on a leather strap for only £1500 and the store had a number of others for sale including black bezel models on bracelets.
Let me know if you want details.
I love my Submariner but the Tudor really is a great watch. Others will no doubt disagree but I'd say it's 90% of the watch for around a third of the price.
Saw a lovely red Black Bay today on a leather strap for only £1500 and the store had a number of others for sale including black bezel models on bracelets.
Let me know if you want details.
traffman said:
I got this recently , its a lovely watch , 3185 movement which is the same movement found in the older Gmt's.
Fixed bezel and usual tough Rolex build quality.
If you fancy a Tudor then go for it. I love the blue dial/bezel version.
If you want a sub then do it....you''ll allways look them up on the internet and admire the Submariner. As long as you won't regret buying the Tudor after ten years.
Lovely watches considering the movement but especially so when considering what price you can get them for. I'm keeping my eye out for one at the right price.Fixed bezel and usual tough Rolex build quality.
If you fancy a Tudor then go for it. I love the blue dial/bezel version.
If you want a sub then do it....you''ll allways look them up on the internet and admire the Submariner. As long as you won't regret buying the Tudor after ten years.
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