Watch winders

[VGTICE]

sidedicks said:

VGTICE said:

We've already established you're too entitled to do your own research. Beggars can't be choosers.

We've established nothing of the sort. What we have established is that (so far) you're unable to justify the claims you made (and in the process you're somewhat of an arse)!
HTH

Not only are you too entitled, you're a bit dim too.

[sidicks]

VGTICE said:

Not only are you too entitled, you're a bit dim too.

Evidence would suggest otherwise.

[VGTICE]

suckadicks said:

VGTICE said:

Not only are you too entitled, you're a bit dim too.

Evidence would suggest otherwise.

specsavers.co.uk should be able to assist with that. Get the ones with yellow filter.

[sidicks]

VGTICE said:

specsavers.co.uk should be able to assist with that. Get the ones with yellow filter.

You claim I'm dim and yet the best you have to offer is childish manipulation of my username. Are you 8 years old?

[VGTICE]

sickdicks said:

VGTICE said:

specsavers.co.uk should be able to assist with that. Get the ones with yellow filter.

You claim I'm dim and yet the best you have to offer is childish manipulation of my username. Are you 8 years old?

I'm trying to be accommodating and by that I mean I had to lower myself to your level.

[sidicks]

VGTICE said:

I'm trying to be accommodating and by that I mean I had to lower myself to your level.

And your qualifications are (apart from being unnecessarily offensive, unhelpful and an all-round arse)?

[VGTICE]

sidicks said:

VGTICE said:

I'm trying to be accommodating and by that I mean I had to lower myself to your level.

And your qualifications are?

I own two myWaitrose cards.

[thebraketester]

Waitrose.... how common....

[ellroy]

It used to be that the watch forum was relatively immune from the insulting prat brigade. It seems they've infested here as well now.

[Wills2]

Yep and it was all the better for that, pity a few of the PH argumentative types have discovered the forum.

[andy tims]

R8Steve said:

Posts above have mentioned that it increases wear and increases the service intervals by 4.

Which is a lot of nonsense as it's just the same as wearing the watch all the time which i'm fairly sure they were designed to do.

Yes but if you have several (and presumably you do if you "need" a winder) keeping them running when you're not wearing them clearly increases the wear rate and service requirements.

[Emanresu]

Relax guys, I just wanted some information from someone who knows more on the subject than I do.

I haven't bought one as of yet, been too busy with other things. I do however find the point of increased wear interesting. It's something I hadn't considered. But then again a watch is meant to be worn all the time so parts will wear out anyway. Which one is correct or is it all subjective?

Thanks to all who replied.

[anonymous-user]

I bought a cheap 'Time Tutelaty' single watch winder from Ebay for £29.99 inc delivery.

It works perfectly. It has different settings in case your watch can only be would in one direction instead of both.

It is silent in operation and rotates for an hour then rests for several hours before repeating.

Due to my job I can usually only wear my watch on weekends or if I'm out in the evening, and this has saved me having me to set the time and date on my watch every week.

I'm pleased I bought one.

[R8Steve]

andy tims said:

R8Steve said:

Posts above have mentioned that it increases wear and increases the service intervals by 4.

Which is a lot of nonsense as it's just the same as wearing the watch all the time which i'm fairly sure they were designed to do.

Yes but if you have several (and presumably you do if you "need" a winder) keeping them running when you're not wearing them clearly increases the wear rate and service requirements.

I'm sorry but it doesn't.

I don't see any of the advised service intervals having a caveat that intervals should be reduced if you wear the watch all the time, which is the equivalent of putting it on a watch winder.

What about the wear on the crown threads/spring from having to adjust the time every time you go to use the watch? Should the service intervals also be adjusted for someone that lets the watch stop every few days to account for that?

Watch winders, mine at least work on timers/pulses so they are not on all the time, just enough to keep the watch moving, they don't run constantly.

[bobbybee]

R8Steve said:

I'm sorry but it doesn't.

I don't see any of the advised service intervals having a caveat that intervals should be reduced if you wear the watch all the time, which is the equivalent of putting it on a watch winder.

What about the wear on the crown threads/spring from having to adjust the time every time you go to use the watch? Should the service intervals also be adjusted for someone that lets the watch stop every few days to account for that?

Watch winders, mine at least work on timers/pulses so they are not on all the time, just enough to keep the watch moving, they don't run constantly.

Exactly that. People are looking at this all wrong. A watch winder does not increase the wear and tear neither does it shorten the period between services. As they work as if the watch was worm all the time, which it is designed to cope with.

Not wearing a watch for a period of time may, but only slightly, extend service periods and minutely reduce wear and tear. But, say over a 20 year period the benefits are going to be marginal at best.

[DJMC]

DJMC said:

My Rolex dealer recently told me to get a WW for my OP DJ from the mid 90's if I don't wear it, and also that the current models don't need one.

Why would that be? Better made now?

...anyway, I bought this for £10.40 delivered...

[andy tims]

R8Steve said:

andy tims said:

R8Steve said:

Posts above have mentioned that it increases wear and increases the service intervals by 4.

Which is a lot of nonsense as it's just the same as wearing the watch all the time which i'm fairly sure they were designed to do.

Yes but if you have several (and presumably you do if you "need" a winder) keeping them running when you're not wearing them clearly increases the wear rate and service requirements.

I'm sorry but it doesn't.

I don't see any of the advised service intervals having a caveat that intervals should be reduced if you wear the watch all the time, which is the equivalent of putting it on a watch winder.

What about the wear on the crown threads/spring from having to adjust the time every time you go to use the watch? Should the service intervals also be adjusted for someone that lets the watch stop every few days to account for that?

Watch winders, mine at least work on timers/pulses so they are not on all the time, just enough to keep the watch moving, they don't run constantly.

If you're that convinced, I'll not waste further time trying to persuade you otherwise.

However, if you have your watch serviced based on the manufacturers recommended service intervals, you're perhaps not as well informed as you think and just may be drinking the winder makers cool aid.
I get my watches serviced when they need it, based on time keeping and keeping an eye on the health of the movement by measuring the amplitude.

Also, with a reasonably large collection, I'm hardly causing a lot of wear and tear by setting the time once or twice a month (at most) on any individual watch.

[anonymous-user]

andy tims said:

If you're that convinced, I'll not waste further time trying to persuade you otherwise.

However, if you have your watch serviced based on the manufacturers recommended service intervals, you're perhaps not as well informed as you think and just may be drinking the winder makers cool aid.
I get my watches serviced when they need it, based on time keeping and keeping an eye on the health of the movement by measuring the amplitude.

Also, with a reasonably large collection, I'm hardly causing a lot of wear and tear by setting the time once or twice a month (at most) on any individual watch.

I've tried to keep out of this debate (apart from recommending a winder I bought) because I'm not a watch 'expert' by any stretch of the imagination, but I have been reading the posts with interest.

Andy, I just wondered if you could expand a bit on what you mean in your posts about wear on the watch from using a winder?

I've got a Submariner, and a mate of mine has a nearly identical Sub to mine.

Due to my job, I only wear mine at weekends and the occasional evening. The rest of the time, it lives on my winder which rotates it slowly for about an hour and then rests for 3-4 hours before repeating.

My mate wears his watch all day every day at work, plus weekends, and only takes it off for bed, pretty much what you would do with any watch.

You are saying my watch will suffer more wear from being in a winder than if I just wore it all the time?

[andy tims]

NinjaPower said:

Andy, I just wondered if you could expand a bit on what you mean in your posts about wear on the watch from using a winder?

You are saying my watch will suffer more wear from being in a winder than if I just wore it all the time?

My view is that compared to taking a watch off, letting it run down, then resetting it a week or more later, keeping a watch on a winder is wearing it out a bit faster.

[VGTICE]

DJMC said:

...anyway, I bought this for £10.40 delivered...

How much do they charge to demagnetise watches where you live?