Watch winders

[anonymous-user]

andy tims said:

NinjaPower said:

Andy, I just wondered if you could expand a bit on what you mean in your posts about wear on the watch from using a winder?

You are saying my watch will suffer more wear from being in a winder than if I just wore it all the time?

My view is that compared to taking a watch off, letting it run down, then resetting it a week or more later, keeping a watch on a winder is wearing it out a bit faster.

I get that, but is it worse than wearing the watch all the time?

[bobbybee]

NinjaPower said:

I get that, but is it worse than wearing the watch all the time?

Simply, no

[DJMC]

VGTICE said:

How much do they charge to demagnetise watches where you live?

Are you saying a watch winder will magnetise my watch?

[VGTICE]

DJMC said:

Are you saying a watch winder will magnetise my watch?

Depends what watch it is exactly (anti-magnetic watch won't be affected obviously) but a cheap poor quality WW can do that.

PS I'm waiting for the entitled brigade to demand I show them physical proof based on at least 3 unrelated researches with sample of at least 1000 units each.

[bobbybee]

Evidence?

There's a lot been said about the subject, but I haven't seen a case yet that definitely proves the scenario.

I've had my Submariner (until sold) for 20 years on and off a WW along with various other Swiss mid to high end watches, not an issue ever with any of them. And I've never spent more than £100 on a WW

[VGTICE]

bobbybee said:

Evidence?

Dem tings kaled fizics n st.

[R8Steve]

VGTICE said:

bobbybee said:

Evidence?

Dem tings kaled fizics n st.

Better wrap the watch in tinfoil to be sure then.

What about the magnetic fields from the human body? Speakers, tvs, cordless drills, blenders, the earth itself. Should we be concerned about them as well?

[VGTICE]

R8Steve said:

magnetic fields from the earth itself?

What? Magnetic fields from the earth? Since when does the flat as pancake earth have any magnetic field? Aren't the 16 dragons (suspended above the blue sheet we refer to as sky) supposed to protect it and us from all foreign forces?

[bobbybee]

Lack of evidence = smart ar5e remarks

Typical

[DJMC]

VGTICE said:

Depends what watch it is exactly (anti-magnetic watch won't be affected obviously) but a cheap poor quality WW can do that.

PS I'm waiting for the entitled brigade to demand I show them physical proof based on at least 3 unrelated researches with sample of at least 1000 units each.

It's a Rolex OP DJ.

Is that going to survive the intense internal magnetic inferno of a WW?

[bobbybee]

DJMC said:

It's a Rolex OP DJ.

Is that going to survive the intense internal magnetic inferno of a WW?

Oh dear, not a chance I'm afraid. I am however surprised that being a Rolex owner you don't have a valet that will wind the watch for you then place it upon your wrist as required. May be just me, but I assumed that every chap had a gentleman's gentleman.

[VGTICE]

bobbybee said:

Lack of evidence = smart ar5e remarks

Typical

Lack of evidence that electric motors generate magnetic field which if not shielded properly can magnetise other objects?

Do you need evidence proving that you wouldn't live long without oxygen? That's what happens when your heducetian is based on daily doses of Jezza Kyle.

[R8Steve]

As you like physics so much here is some actual numbers for you -

Most rolex have anti magnetic protection up to 60 gauss, a milgauss, as the name would suggest (The name Milgauss is derived from the Latin mille, which means one-thousand, and gauss, the unit of a magnetic field.), can withstand 1000 gauss

Electric razors and hair dryers .2 gauss to .4 gauss
computer .005 to .1 gauss
small electric motor .005 to .03 gauss

HTH

[VGTICE]

http://www.jcwa.or.jp/en/time/qa/qa10.html

[andy tims]

bobbybee said:

NinjaPower said:

I get that, but is it worse than wearing the watch all the time?

Simply, no

Having a watch on a winder vs wearing all the time would be as near as makes no difference, the same in terms of wear & tear on the movement, but that was not the point I was trying to make.

[traffman]

There was a Rolex dredged up from the depths of the ocean recently , it took one shake after 14months tying on the ocean bed it started ticking.
A ww will not kill your watch , especially a Rolex. Anyway you can program most winders to wind every now and again. They dont just wind and wind and wind.

[bobbybee]

VGTICE said:

bobbybee said:

Lack of evidence = smart ar5e remarks

Typical

Lack of evidence that electric motors generate magnetic field which if not shielded properly can magnetise other objects?

Do you need evidence proving that you wouldn't live long without oxygen? That's what happens when your heducetian is based on daily doses of Jezza Kyle.

I refer you to my previous comment.

We're talking WW motors not GE marine units, but of course you knew that

[Durzel]

dc2rr07 said:

Should have opted for a non date personally if you knew it was for only occasional use, anyway I would just let it stop.

Just to resurrect this thread...

Got my Tag Carrera out of its case after a year or so having not worn it (pretty much wear my Apple Watch exclusively now) and wound it, but the chrono part with seconds on didn't start turning. After giving it a bit of a shake it started up again, almost as if the mechanism had seized?

Is leaving automatic watches unused for months a bad idea? I don't mind setting the time & date whenever I actually want to use it, but am now anxious about any lubrication or seizing issues that might crop up if it's unused for an extended period of time?

[lostkiwi]

Fairly normal depending where it was when it stopped and what the movement is.
I always work on the principle of 'shake to wake' and give it a few manual winds to get going.

[Lorne]

Well it's a Rolex, so no doubt the OP wants something smarter than a £30 ebay winder. How about one of these