Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes

[popeyewhite]

carlo996 said:

popeyewhite said:

I'm not really bothered if people buy fakes if I'm completely honest, it's more my angle that people shouldn't try to justify buying a fake because the real thing is too expensive or it's a massive conspiracy or everyone else does it so it's alright etc etc. You buy a fake because it's cheap and looks like the real thing, obvs.

You care enough to sneer at those who buy them? You’re just annoyed because it annoys you that some can wear a ‘fake’ and be happy. The question is why it annoys you? I’d love to know what Rolex you actually own?

Yes, you've already said that. Interesting you see my responses as 'sneering', or that it annoys me - it doesn't really, if anything the subterfuge and self-delusion is a little dispiriting.

I bought a fake shark's tooth in the Canaries when I was much younger, turned out to be a canine from a big dog lol.

[carlo996]

popeyewhite said:

Yes, you've already said that. Interesting you see my responses as 'sneering', or that it annoys me - it doesn't really, if anything the subterfuge and self-delusion is a little dispiriting.

I bought a fake shark's tooth in the Canaries when I was much younger, turned out to be a canine from a big dog lol.

Worse than that, you need a genuine Rolex to make you feel special and drive a mapped Golf, the irony is off the charts tbh.

[popeyewhite]

carlo996 said:

popeyewhite said:

Yes, you've already said that. Interesting you see my responses as 'sneering', or that it annoys me - it doesn't really, if anything the subterfuge and self-delusion is a little dispiriting.

I bought a fake shark's tooth in the Canaries when I was much younger, turned out to be a canine from a big dog lol.

Worse than that, you need a genuine Rolex to make you feel special and drive a mapped Golf, the irony is off the charts tbh.

Wrong, I don't need anything to make me feel special. Well actually holding my niece's hand as we walk the canal makes me feel special.

[Gustavo7]

I understand the agitation towards a fake, as much as I believe there is nothing wrong with driving a mapped Golf!

I shall ask my fake dealer if he has one of this next time I’m in Thailand, looks fun! Might import two, any takers?

[carlo996]

Gustavo7 said:

I understand the agitation towards a fake, as much as I believe there is nothing wrong with driving a mapped Golf!

I shall ask my fake dealer if he has one of this next time I’m in Thailand, looks fun! Might import two, any takers?

[redrabbit]

popeyewhite said:

1. I'm not really bothered if people buy fakes if I'm completely honest,

2. it's more my angle that people shouldn't try to justify buying a fake because the real thing is too expensive or it's a massive conspiracy or everyone else does it so it's alright etc etc.

3. You buy a fake because it's cheap and looks like the real thing, obvs.

1. eh? Then why are you posting incessantly on the topic?

2. that's the best justification I can think of...

3. ...and you seem to agree.

What am I missing?

[raucousV8]

I even think there are replicas of replicas

A thread on the latest Rolex "Bruce Wayne" (might have my model wrong here) over on RWI has images of one with Clean Factory stickers, even though the only known rep (at that point in time) is ARF. Someone trading off CF's quality reputation.

[Mosdef]

Zj2002 said:

popeyewhite said:

Goldman Sachs said:

I've lost count of the number of replica AC Cobras or GT40's I have seen, fully badged up per as the originals and with the owners trying to get every last tiny detail correct so that it fools everyone that has a look at it. I suppose you want all those sent to the crusher do you?

Yes absolutely, they're abhorrent. Should be banned etc etc..
Next you'll claim cheap fakes are an 'homage' I imagine.

The 'well lots of people do borderline legal things in life all the time' defence only works if you're under 10 years of age btw.

You just sound like a moany old guy.

It’s pretty sad to try and get something badged up as something it isn’t. Doesn’t matter whether it’s a crappy version of a DB4 Zagato, a 250 GTO based on a Datsun or a Cobra kit car. If you can’t afford the real thing, I really don’t get why you’d bother, unless it’s some weird insecurity about trying to show off some bit of tat that resembles something the owner can’t afford. There are always some decent (and genuine) substitutes to be had rather than just lowering anyone’s standards to Chinese fakery.

[Mosdef]

redrabbit said:

popeyewhite said:

1. I'm not really bothered if people buy fakes if I'm completely honest,

2. it's more my angle that people shouldn't try to justify buying a fake because the real thing is too expensive or it's a massive conspiracy or everyone else does it so it's alright etc etc.

3. You buy a fake because it's cheap and looks like the real thing, obvs.

1. eh? Then why are you posting incessantly on the topic?

2. that's the best justification I can think of...

3. ...and you seem to agree.

What am I missing?

The sarcasm by Popeye in point 3…

[carlo996]

Mosdef said:

If you can’t afford the real thing, I really don’t get why you’d bother

Because you can, you know, personal choice and all that? A friend of mine has a C-Type (rep), and lovely it is too. Should he take it into the nearest field and set fire to it just because someone has a problem with his personal choice?

[Mosdef]

carlo996 said:

Mosdef said:

If you can’t afford the real thing, I really don’t get why you’d bother

Because you can, you know, personal choice and all that? A friend of mine has a C-Type (rep), and lovely it is too. Should he take it into the nearest field and set fire to it just because someone has a problem with his personal choice?

I can’t afford a 250GTO and I’d rather own a Skoda than have a fake.

[carlo996]

Mosdef said:

I can’t afford a 250GTO and I’d rather own a Skoda than have a fake.

Is that a yes? It's pretty depressing if so.

[popeyewhite]

carlo996 said:

Mosdef said:

I can’t afford a 250GTO and I’d rather own a Skoda than have a fake.

Is that a yes? It's pretty depressing if so.

Ahem, personal choice and all that

[Mosdef]

carlo996 said:

Mosdef said:

I can’t afford a 250GTO and I’d rather own a Skoda than have a fake.

Is that a yes? It's pretty depressing if so.

It’s a yes from me. I don’t understand why anyone would want a car that isn’t original, there are plenty of other fun options out there that aren’t fakes. Same goes for watches, albeit there are some posters who just want them as a bit of fun and not to project (fake) status. The last one is relatively harmless, as long as you’re prepared to overlook the human exploitation that goes with the territory.

[carlo996]

Mosdef said:

It’s a yes from me. I don’t understand why anyone would want a car that isn’t original, there are plenty of other fun options out there that aren’t fakes. Same goes for watches, albeit there are some posters who just want them as a bit of fun and not to project (fake) status. The last one is relatively harmless, as long as you’re prepared to overlook the human exploitation that goes with the territory.

Because a factory C is unavailable and the replicas are not only as good, but better than the originals. They make people smile, like if you fancy a replica watch, it's a thing. Are you really trying to make a human rights issue over replica watches, and who are you to judge, driving your 'Skoda' when someone has spent less and is having a much more enjoyable time? Do you think you need to revisit your judgmental take on life?

[carlo996]

popeyewhite said:

Ahem, personal choice and all that

Says the guy 'modding' a Golf, but moaning about modding watches

[RSTurboPaul]

Mosdef said:

carlo996 said:

Mosdef said:

I can’t afford a 250GTO and I’d rather own a Skoda than have a fake.

Is that a yes? It's pretty depressing if so.

It’s a yes from me. I don’t understand why anyone would want a car that isn’t original, there are plenty of other fun options out there that aren’t fakes. Same goes for watches, albeit there are some posters who just want them as a bit of fun and not to project (fake) status. The last one is relatively harmless, as long as you’re prepared to overlook the human exploitation that goes with the territory.

[Citation needed]

[Mosdef]

carlo996 said:

Mosdef said:

It’s a yes from me. I don’t understand why anyone would want a car that isn’t original, there are plenty of other fun options out there that aren’t fakes. Same goes for watches, albeit there are some posters who just want them as a bit of fun and not to project (fake) status. The last one is relatively harmless, as long as you’re prepared to overlook the human exploitation that goes with the territory.

Because a factory C is unavailable and the replicas are not only as good, but better than the originals. They make people smile, like if you fancy a replica watch, it's a thing. Are you really trying to make a human rights issue over replica watches, and who are you to judge, driving your 'Skoda' when someone has spent less and is having a much more enjoyable time? Do you think you need to revisit your judgmental take on life?

A C Type is somewhat different to a fake watch but wouldn’t appeal to me anyway.

On the fake watches, it’s pretty evident that the industry is entwined with organised crime, it’s not just a bunch of harmless hobbyists. Google is your friend on that subject but just for starters…

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

[carlo996]

Mosdef said:

A C Type is somewhat different to a fake watch but wouldn’t appeal to me anyway.

On the fake watches, it’s pretty evident that the industry is entwined with organised crime, it’s not just a bunch of harmless hobbyists. Google is your friend on that subject but just for starters…

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

The irony would be you typing on an iPhone

[CoolHands]

Mosdef said:

A C Type is somewhat different to a fake watch but wouldn’t appeal to me anyway.

On the fake watches, it’s pretty evident that the industry is entwined with organised crime, it’s not just a bunch of harmless hobbyists. Google is your friend on that subject but just for starters…

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

Like the scaremongering dvd days