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The Walrus said:
Cooky said:
I use an independant near Stockport, charges £100 for a clean, lube and vacuum seal, he also polishes the case, crystal and the band. It also seems to keep better time when he does it than when the Rolie dealer did it last.
The last time I sent the Sub to Rolex they had my pants down for £400 and it still gains time. Anyone know if they keep better time when worn everyday?
The last time I sent the Sub to Rolex they had my pants down for £400 and it still gains time. Anyone know if they keep better time when worn everyday?
You need to wear it daily to help keep it accurate so that it is keeping as much charge within the automatic spring movement, they are rated at + or - 3 seconds a day or around that region, if you want a mega accurate movement a rolex is not the best watch to go for a zenith is more accurate movement generally and proven but not as glamorous.
HTH
When mine came back from its last service at Rolex it was gaining ten seconds per hour so obviously it went back, when it came back the second time it was gaining five seconds per day and they told me that the tolerances are -5 to +7 seconds per 24 hour period. There is a local repairer who has said that if I leave it with him for a couple of weeks he'll be able to improve the accuracy but it is quite a long process as it needs to be on a jig which holds it in various different planes, he will then advance or retard the movement every 24 hours or so until it keeps good time at all angles. I'll be interested to see how he gets on when I eventually get around to dropping it in!
The Walrus said:
You bought a quartz movement and from Tag whats that all about ????
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
LOL I do have a couple of swatches, a snow pass one (for boarding) and a skeleton one - just cause I liked it.
As for the tag, just like the look of the new F1, the local kart circit may son goes to is sponsored by Tag so there are posters of it there I see every week. maybe I have been brainwashed!
Worked out to just over £400 which isn't a great deal of money (about twice as much as the rolex service is going to cost me, and it was my birthday)
this is the one
www.authenticwatches.com/tag-heuer-formula-one-cah1110-ba0815.html
even tag's website don't list it yet, only an arty f1 video of it.
www.authenticwatches.com/tag-heuer-formula-one-cah1110-ba0815.html
even tag's website don't list it yet, only an arty f1 video of it.
smilerbaker said:
thanks, around the price I thought it would be, its just an oyster so nothing fancy, case and strap could do with a damn good polish, never been brave enough to try it.
I have an oyster perpetual datejust (40 ish years old) both services have been £180. They replace glass but not with crystal. It can be independently done but there will be no records kept at Rolex.
johnniem said:
smilerbaker said:
thanks, around the price I thought it would be, its just an oyster so nothing fancy, case and strap could do with a damn good polish, never been brave enough to try it.
I have an oyster perpetual datejust (40 ish years old) both services have been £180. They replace glass but not with crystal. It can be independently done but there will be no records kept at Rolex.
Me too, mines a '59. Bought it end of last year....
Having big problems with it, it was losing about 5mins a day, and when i went to change the time, the bezel came out...
Grounds for guarantee work methinks...
best,
adam
smilerbaker said:
The Walrus said:
You bought a quartz movement and from Tag whats that all about ????
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
LOL I do have a couple of swatches, a snow pass one (for boarding) and a skeleton one - just cause I liked it.
As for the tag, just like the look of the new F1, the local kart circit may son goes to is sponsored by Tag so there are posters of it there I see every week. maybe I have been brainwashed!
Worked out to just over £400 which isn't a great deal of money (about twice as much as the rolex service is going to cost me, and it was my birthday)
Maybe be carefull as it could be more that your watch choice they have brainwashed you on, have you been thinking about wearing lady's under garments ?
The Walrus said:
smilerbaker said:
The Walrus said:
You bought a quartz movement and from Tag whats that all about ????
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
LOL I do have a couple of swatches, a snow pass one (for boarding) and a skeleton one - just cause I liked it.
As for the tag, just like the look of the new F1, the local kart circit may son goes to is sponsored by Tag so there are posters of it there I see every week. maybe I have been brainwashed!
Worked out to just over £400 which isn't a great deal of money (about twice as much as the rolex service is going to cost me, and it was my birthday)
Maybe be carefull as it could be more that your watch choice they have brainwashed you on, have you been thinking about wearing lady's under garments ?
no more then normal, now where is that manties catalog
I can't be arsed with paying £200-odd quid and losing the watch for weeks (even though I've got plenty of other watches) so I use a watchmaker in Tunbridge Wells who works with antique watches and clocks for a living. Much better price and you can tell that he gives a damn and does a good job.
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
cyberface said:
I can't be arsed with paying £200-odd quid and losing the watch for weeks (even though I've got plenty of other watches) so I use a watchmaker in Tunbridge Wells who works with antique watches and clocks for a living. Much better price and you can tell that he gives a damn and does a good job.
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
get yourself a swatch snowpass for skiing, dont have to worry about losing you lift pass then.
smilerbaker said:
cyberface said:
I can't be arsed with paying £200-odd quid and losing the watch for weeks (even though I've got plenty of other watches) so I use a watchmaker in Tunbridge Wells who works with antique watches and clocks for a living. Much better price and you can tell that he gives a damn and does a good job.
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
get yourself a swatch snowpass for skiing, dont have to worry about losing you lift pass then.
Bloody good idea and I think I will next time round. I've never lost ski passes as my jackets always have special pockets for them, but I wore a swatch at prep school and it may be fun to get another one.
Talking about swatches... have you seen the limited edition one with the oddball movement? It's not a true tourbillon but it's some sort of carousel mechanical movement... very intriguing but they've gone the odd route of putting a serious movement in a plastic case, it costs a few grand and everyone will think it's a £20 plastic swatch. And, of course, it won't be as robust as a 'normal' swatch.
The Walrus said:
Cooky said:
I use an independant near Stockport, charges £100 for a clean, lube and vacuum seal, he also polishes the case, crystal and the band. It also seems to keep better time when he does it than when the Rolie dealer did it last.
The last time I sent the Sub to Rolex they had my pants down for £400 and it still gains time. Anyone know if they keep better time when worn everyday?
The last time I sent the Sub to Rolex they had my pants down for £400 and it still gains time. Anyone know if they keep better time when worn everyday?
You need to wear it daily to help keep it accurate so that it is keeping as much charge within the automatic spring movement, they are rated at + or - 3 seconds a day or around that region, if you want a mega accurate movement a rolex is not the best watch to go for a zenith is more accurate movement generally and proven but not as glamorous.
HTH
Feel free to correct me but don't they use the Zenith movement in a Cosmo' Daytona because of the accuracy?
ETA I also have a quartz Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra which only loses time when I stop it to adjust the time when travelling or changing to/from BST. I check it about 3 times a year with the speaking clock and am always surprised when it's bang on. Would still like a Rolex GMT though - just can't bring myself to spend that much on a watch. Rather spend it on beer & pies
Edited by 4941cc on Thursday 19th April 14:58
cyberface said:
smilerbaker said:
cyberface said:
I can't be arsed with paying £200-odd quid and losing the watch for weeks (even though I've got plenty of other watches) so I use a watchmaker in Tunbridge Wells who works with antique watches and clocks for a living. Much better price and you can tell that he gives a damn and does a good job.
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
My Daytona actually keeps decent time now - I had an Explorer 2 before that ran fast, but the Daytona is surprisingly accurate. I was expecting it to be pants (and it's the Rolex movement one, not the El Primero movement which bloody well ought to be good, even though Rolex slowed the damn thing down).
The only time it's been shoddy is on ski holidays, I guess the altitude / temperature screws it up. I don't wear it skiing any more
To be honest, all mechanical movements are pretty iffy these days, even six-figure monsters with tourbillons. Nothing mechanical will match a cheap quartz 'movement' and the top-quality, temperature-compensated quartz jobbies with regular radio-atomic-clock checking are pretty much the zenith of timekeeping.
But it's cool to have a little engine strapped to your wrist, eh?
get yourself a swatch snowpass for skiing, dont have to worry about losing you lift pass then.
Bloody good idea and I think I will next time round. I've never lost ski passes as my jackets always have special pockets for them, but I wore a swatch at prep school and it may be fun to get another one.
Talking about swatches... have you seen the limited edition one with the oddball movement? It's not a true tourbillon but it's some sort of carousel mechanical movement... very intriguing but they've gone the odd route of putting a serious movement in a plastic case, it costs a few grand and everyone will think it's a £20 plastic swatch. And, of course, it won't be as robust as a 'normal' swatch.
not seen it, there are loads of swatch shops out here, but tend to avoid them
some of there watches are ok though, When I brought the snowpass watch I couldn't resist there skeleton watch as well, but I am too scared to wear it as its only got a very thin plastic screen which looks like it would scratch as soon as air hits it. Also noticed they do some other quite expensive swatches now as well, 300chf+ (about £150)
But back to the snowpass, had it 2 seasons boarding now, and its still 100% has an altometer (sp?) in, which is amusing for about 10 minutes (but very accurate)
Rower said:
Cost about £250. last time I had mine done about 2years ago , came back like new !
Still keeps lousy time though
Guy
Still keeps lousy time though
Guy
Strangly enough, my one kept crap time, and after coming out of the pool in a hotel in Cario and seeing water droplets inside the face, took it in for a service, (first one in 27 years), apart from the service, highly polished, new crystal, it keeps very accurate time, cost in the region of £350 I think.
The water ingress was of course caused by a perished "O" ring inside the winder thingy.
4941cc said:
Feel free to correct me but don't they use the Zenith movement in a Cosmo' Daytona because of the accuracy?
They used to. They used the El Primero movement (which normally ran at 36,000 bph but Rolex slowed it down to 28,800 bph) - this was the 16520 serial number watch.
In about 2001 they built their own chronograph movement, and these watches bear the 116520 serial number.
There's a load of argument amongst the watch geeks about which is better - I'd guess that the Zenith one is probably more accurate (the El Primero movement is a bit of a legend). But my lowly Rolex movement one keeps good time. Perhaps I've just been lucky (and I was so chuffed when I bought it that I wore it *all* the time, and it took a hell of a beating)...
The Walrus said:
You bought a quartz movement and from Tag whats that all about ????
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
I appreicate you want an accurate watch but why pay the premium of a tag when a swatch, casio would do the job. I appreciate that for the looks and kudos perspective why you would buy one but for me it is a waste of money ?
My thoughts also ,, no point in a tag quartz
The Rolex service center in the UK is based in St. James's in central London so you can either drop it in personally in which case you can discuss what you want them to do or get your authorised dealer to send it to them. The service centre has a counter with a couple of service people (in their white lab coats and all) who will take the watch from you. You can even get something like a new dial, etc, fitted to the watch if you wanted it changed.
Allow up to 6 weeks to be done depending on how busy they are. If you go for a full service, which I'm sure they would recommend, about 250 quid is a reasonable guide, but they give you an estimate before they start work. I'd recommend them over an independent as all the work will be guaranteed for a year, all Rolex parts used, and they will maintain an accurate history of the watch in case of problems, etc (bit like a car really).
Cheers, James.
Allow up to 6 weeks to be done depending on how busy they are. If you go for a full service, which I'm sure they would recommend, about 250 quid is a reasonable guide, but they give you an estimate before they start work. I'd recommend them over an independent as all the work will be guaranteed for a year, all Rolex parts used, and they will maintain an accurate history of the watch in case of problems, etc (bit like a car really).
Cheers, James.
jamesb300 said:
The Rolex service center in the UK is based in St. James's in central London so you can either drop it in personally in which case you can discuss what you want them to do or get your authorised dealer to send it to them. The service centre has a counter with a couple of service people (in their white lab coats and all) who will take the watch from you. You can even get something like a new dial, etc, fitted to the watch if you wanted it changed.
Allow up to 6 weeks to be done depending on how busy they are. If you go for a full service, which I'm sure they would recommend, about 250 quid is a reasonable guide, but they give you an estimate before they start work. I'd recommend them over an independent as all the work will be guaranteed for a year, all Rolex parts used, and they will maintain an accurate history of the watch in case of problems, etc (bit like a car really).
Cheers, James.
Allow up to 6 weeks to be done depending on how busy they are. If you go for a full service, which I'm sure they would recommend, about 250 quid is a reasonable guide, but they give you an estimate before they start work. I'd recommend them over an independent as all the work will be guaranteed for a year, all Rolex parts used, and they will maintain an accurate history of the watch in case of problems, etc (bit like a car really).
Cheers, James.
Ta, bit of a way to go to get my watch serviced though, think I'll drop it into the rolex shop in Zurich
Cooky said:
Thanks Walrus,
Unfortunatly I can't wear the damn thing everyday, as it is just too 'blingy' and may upset customers I recently bought a second hand Datejust for everyday use and that doesn't seem to be much better at keeping time. So it's back to the trusty old Speedmaster...dated.. but a damn fine timekeeper.
Unfortunatly I can't wear the damn thing everyday, as it is just too 'blingy' and may upset customers
I recently bought a second hand Datejust for everyday use and that doesn't seem to be much better at keeping time. So it's back to the trusty old Speedmaster...dated.. but a damn fine timekeeper.So just tell 'em it's a £50 fake ....
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