Review of Graham watches

Review of Graham watches

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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I doubt it's fake. Who is going to fake a massively depreciating watch anyway? It's hard enough to sell genuine ones I doubt there's much of a market for second hand Grahams.

Anyway, anyone who knocks them is just jealous etc. hehe




Jovial Joe

371 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
I've just started my collection, have picked up a Chronofighter Oversize Diver, Deep Seal, I got it for £400, have i made a good purchase, should I keep it or turn it for profit ? I really want an IWC Portofino any advice on this ?? cheers
Well done.
I suspect you'd best not wear it in the shower.

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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el stovey said:
I doubt it's fake. Who is going to fake a massively depreciating watch anyway? It's hard enough to sell genuine ones I doubt there's much of a market for second hand Grahams.

Anyway, anyone who knocks them is just jealous etc. hehe
I thought the same, but you'd be surprised ... Google 'em, there are lots of Graham replicas for sale, some of which are probably better made than the original! wink

deejuic

396 posts

184 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Well done.
I suspect you'd best not wear it in the shower.
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jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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I've done my research and it is genuine, i'm taking it to watches of Switzerland later on this week,
the watch itself has the date at 7, the 2 PVD black screws are also there and the dial changes black to blue in the light reflection, I looked long and hard at all the fakes online and scrutinized the images on the Graham website, fingers crossed I dont look like a total W****R when I go to the shop !!
When all's said and done, if it's real !! does everybody think i should turn it for profit and get an IWC ??

Jovial Joe

371 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
I've done my research and it is genuine, i'm taking it to watches of Switzerland later on this week,
the watch itself has the date at 7, the 2 PVD black screws are also there and the dial changes black to blue in the light reflection, I looked long and hard at all the fakes online and scrutinized the images on the Graham website, fingers crossed I dont look like a total W****R when I go to the shop !!
When all's said and done, if it's real !! does everybody think i should turn it for profit and get an IWC ??
Er....... apologies in advance if I'm wrong but it doesn't appear to have a date
http://www.jurawatches.co.uk/watch.asp?productid=4...

jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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thats not the one i've purchased im trying to upload a picture of my watch !! the image used on the jura watches website and all of the other main ones that appear in a google search, none of them have a date window at 7, the only corresponding image of my watch is the one on the official graham website !!

Jovial Joe

371 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
thats not the one i've purchased im trying to upload a picture of my watch !! the image used on the jura watches website and all of the other main ones that appear in a google search, none of them have a date window at 7, the only corresponding image of my watch is the one on the official graham website !!
Ok...... so you've got the very latest spec watch that retails at £5000+ for £400.
Result.

jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Jovial Joe

371 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
Right,just to clarify.You've bought a watch that retails for £5000 off ebay,from a bloke called Bruceybonusbeer for £400 and you reckon it's kosher?
Yep,that'll be fine then.
Nothing at all to worry about.
Whatsoever.
At all.
Much.

jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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yeah, I can see your point and i'm still not convinced, but consider the evidence, the Graham watch company produce watches that depreciate in value dramatically, so if the watch is 2 years old to start it at £400 would be reasonable, plus it wont have a box or any paperwork further subtracting from its value.
I spent a long time trawling through the web looking at all the images and reading all the stuff i could find, the closet match in terms of image is the one on the Graham website,
it wont be hard to get it authenticated and return it if it is a fake, but for now I'm hoping to ride my luck !!

Jovial Joe

371 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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I like you.
Do you want to buy some magic beans?

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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The the only difference I can see is;

-The Chronofighter on Jura Watches has two silver screws by the crown guard, like the watch advertised on eBay, but the Jura Watches model does not have a date. Also the 'Diver 1000ft' text is on one line.

-However the Chronofighter on the Graham website has 2 black PVD screws, but does have a date window and the 'Diver & '1000ft' text on seperate lines.

Perhaps a difference in year manufactured? If you're grabbed yourself a bargain, then top stuff! smile Just get it checked out first, just in case it's a super rep! Also, if you really want the IWC and have no interest in the Graham, I'd flip it for a profit smile

Dominic H

3,275 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
Which scenario do you think is more probable....

1. You have paid £400 for a fake Graham, commonly available at £400 on the internet (less in you're buying from source).

2. You have paid £400 for a £5900 watch that someone has decided to sell at almost 93% off the UK list price.*

Does the lack of provenance or packaging/paperwork/warranty not concern you?

As the others have said, don't wear it in the shower.... wink


  • These aren't my cup of tea, but I think I would be more bullish than £400 to buy an original Graham as described....
Dominic H

Edited by Dominic H on Sunday 21st February 19:25

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
yeah, I can see your point and i'm still not convinced, but consider the evidence, the Graham watch company produce watches that depreciate in value dramatically, so if the watch is 2 years old to start it at £400 would be reasonable, plus it wont have a box or any paperwork further subtracting from its value.
I spent a long time trawling through the web looking at all the images and reading all the stuff i could find, the closet match in terms of image is the one on the Graham website,
it wont be hard to get it authenticated and return it if it is a fake, but for now I'm hoping to ride my luck !!
EH!? RUN, RUN! Who'd throw away the box and manuals for a £5K watch!? eek

Also, the listing doesn't inspire confidence ... No mention of it being genuine, let alone the watch being a 'Graham'. No information on whether the box or manual included, or where it was originally bought. The 'Rolex, Hublot etc' at the end seems a bit dodgy too.

jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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sorry, can't afford magic beans right now, i might have just spent £400 on a fake watch !!!

Dominic H

3,275 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
yeah, I can see your point and i'm still not convinced, but consider the evidence, the Graham watch company produce watches that depreciate in value dramatically, so if the watch is 2 years old to start it at £400 would be reasonable, plus it wont have a box or any paperwork further subtracting from its value.
I spent a long time trawling through the web looking at all the images and reading all the stuff i could find, the closet match in terms of image is the one on the Graham website,
it wont be hard to get it authenticated and return it if it is a fake, but for now I'm hoping to ride my luck !!


Edited by Dominic H on Sunday 21st February 19:31

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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jacksbane said:
sorry, can't afford magic beans right now, i might have just spent £400 on a fake watch !!!
Did you buy via PayPal? I'd open a dispute now and start the chargeback process ...

jacksbane

37 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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but i can ask him to prove its real before i confirm my payment anyway !! although what would he actually show me ??

Ikemi

8,447 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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Dominic H said:
jacksbane said:
yeah, I can see your point and i'm still not convinced, but consider the evidence, the Graham watch company produce watches that depreciate in value dramatically, so if the watch is 2 years old to start it at £400 would be reasonable, plus it wont have a box or any paperwork further subtracting from its value.
I spent a long time trawling through the web looking at all the images and reading all the stuff i could find, the closet match in terms of image is the one on the Graham website,
it wont be hard to get it authenticated and return it if it is a fake, but for now I'm hoping to ride my luck !!


Edited by Dominic H on Sunday 21st February 19:31
A genuine laugh out loud moment there ... hehe