Breitling real or not help
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Hi all, I'm new to this particular forum, but that's only because I've never had a watch that's worth talking about!
I came back to the family home for Christmas today, my old room had been cleared/tidied by my Mum and Brother. My Brother presented me a watch and said it must be mine (no one else in the house even wears a watch!), I accepted and later tonight looked a little closer and noticed the Breitling mark upon it.
It's not a new looking watch, I can only presume that it must have been left here from the times we did bed and breakfast many many years ago.
I was wondering if the collective knowledge of this forum could help me identify its model, age, and whether it's a genuine or not. The photo below is a horrible quality from my phone, but tomorrow I should be able to get a decent one posted hopefully, I'm posting this now though because I'm very intrigued! I'm doubting very much that it is a genuine though.
Here's a brief description...
- it is a self winder, it started going as soon as I put it on (also can hear it wind if I shake it near my ear!)
- the second hand ticks has about 4 or 5 ticks per second
- has one 'winder' to alter the time/date of month
- has two other buttons which I've not yet sussed out
- has a date 'window' between the 4 and 5
- has a one way rotating bezel
- has 3 smaller dials, not sure if they move or not, or how to make them do so
- Breitling logo appears to be in a gold slightly raised metal on the face
Sure a decent photo would help, but all I can supply right now is the one below unfortunately.
Any information would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Dan
I came back to the family home for Christmas today, my old room had been cleared/tidied by my Mum and Brother. My Brother presented me a watch and said it must be mine (no one else in the house even wears a watch!), I accepted and later tonight looked a little closer and noticed the Breitling mark upon it.
It's not a new looking watch, I can only presume that it must have been left here from the times we did bed and breakfast many many years ago.
I was wondering if the collective knowledge of this forum could help me identify its model, age, and whether it's a genuine or not. The photo below is a horrible quality from my phone, but tomorrow I should be able to get a decent one posted hopefully, I'm posting this now though because I'm very intrigued! I'm doubting very much that it is a genuine though.
Here's a brief description...
- it is a self winder, it started going as soon as I put it on (also can hear it wind if I shake it near my ear!)
- the second hand ticks has about 4 or 5 ticks per second
- has one 'winder' to alter the time/date of month
- has two other buttons which I've not yet sussed out
- has a date 'window' between the 4 and 5
- has a one way rotating bezel
- has 3 smaller dials, not sure if they move or not, or how to make them do so
- Breitling logo appears to be in a gold slightly raised metal on the face
Sure a decent photo would help, but all I can supply right now is the one below unfortunately.
Any information would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Dan
Morning Dan,
Unable to see from the poor quality pic
but do the chrono dials actually have chrono markings on them or are they day / date / month?
Breitling reps can be very impressive from a case and face accuracy perspective but often the cheaper movements don't have the chrono function and the additional two buttons merely change the month and day on the small dials.
I'm no expert however and I'm sure some of the more knowledgable chaps will be along shortly! If it is genuine it's a nice little pre-xmas freebie!
Welcome to the forum by the way.
Dave
Unable to see from the poor quality pic
but do the chrono dials actually have chrono markings on them or are they day / date / month? Breitling reps can be very impressive from a case and face accuracy perspective but often the cheaper movements don't have the chrono function and the additional two buttons merely change the month and day on the small dials.
I'm no expert however and I'm sure some of the more knowledgable chaps will be along shortly! If it is genuine it's a nice little pre-xmas freebie!
Welcome to the forum by the way.
Dave
Edited by DAVE-W on Thursday 24th December 07:39
The better fakes are certainly pretty convincing if you're not intimately familiar with the original.
The quality of the bracelet and clasp is often the easiest giveaway though, certainly once it's had a bit of use - the links don't move cleanly against each other and the clasp action doesn't have the crispness it should.
Don't know about Breitlings - but on most other pukka automatic movements the date changes instantaneously at midnight - whilst many fake moveemnts the date changes slowly between midnight and and 3 am - not a definitive test though, have seen severel fakes where the date changes as it should.
The quality of the bracelet and clasp is often the easiest giveaway though, certainly once it's had a bit of use - the links don't move cleanly against each other and the clasp action doesn't have the crispness it should.
Don't know about Breitlings - but on most other pukka automatic movements the date changes instantaneously at midnight - whilst many fake moveemnts the date changes slowly between midnight and and 3 am - not a definitive test though, have seen severel fakes where the date changes as it should.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Thursday 24th December 08:58
Seight_Returns said:
The better fakes are certainly pretty convincing if you're not intimately familiar with the original.
The quality of the bracelet and clasp is often the easiest giveaway though, certainly once it's had a bit of use - the links don't move cleanly against each other and the clasp action doesn't have the crispness it should.
Don't know about Breitlings - but on most other pukka automatic movements the date changes instantaneously at midnight - whilst many fake moveemnts the date changes slowly between midnight and and 3 am - not a definitive test though, have seen severel fakes where the date changes as it should.
i have nothing to add other then the date change thing. Thats entirely dependant on the movement, i have a OMEGA seamaster and wave master one Quartz and one kenetic, both do the slow roll over in the last hour...... just 2p thereThe quality of the bracelet and clasp is often the easiest giveaway though, certainly once it's had a bit of use - the links don't move cleanly against each other and the clasp action doesn't have the crispness it should.
Don't know about Breitlings - but on most other pukka automatic movements the date changes instantaneously at midnight - whilst many fake moveemnts the date changes slowly between midnight and and 3 am - not a definitive test though, have seen severel fakes where the date changes as it should.
Edited by Seight_Returns on Thursday 24th December 08:58
HTH
Lefty Two Drams said:
Can I suggest you call breitling? They're very helpful!
Wot he said. I remember reading on here the other day that you can phone them with a serial number and Breitling will check it against model numbers etc. To the OP if it is real you've got one hell of a chistmas present there!!
I'll get a decent quality photo up soon, but a little internet research has me 95% positive that it's not a real one unfortunately.
Firstly, the two buttons on the side seem to do nothing at all. Also, there is only one small Breitling mark on the bracelet. I also think it should have a serial number on the case. From the photos I've seen of other Breitlings, this just doesn't seem to have the fine details that they do, although I've not yet found the exact model, or even managed to guess the age, at a guess though I'd say 80s.
I'll whip the back off it later (we also used to have a jewellery shop so got all the gear!) and see what's what. That should clear things up.
Cheers for the replies chaps, I'll come back with more shortly.
Update: I've just found a great website called breitlingsource.com, which has every model. I've been through a few pictures and I'm fairy sure it's a 'Chrono Cockpit (Early)', says it was produced in the mid 90s. Right then, off with the back of it!
http://www.breitlingsource.com/watch_details/Windr...
Firstly, the two buttons on the side seem to do nothing at all. Also, there is only one small Breitling mark on the bracelet. I also think it should have a serial number on the case. From the photos I've seen of other Breitlings, this just doesn't seem to have the fine details that they do, although I've not yet found the exact model, or even managed to guess the age, at a guess though I'd say 80s.
I'll whip the back off it later (we also used to have a jewellery shop so got all the gear!) and see what's what. That should clear things up.
Cheers for the replies chaps, I'll come back with more shortly.
Update: I've just found a great website called breitlingsource.com, which has every model. I've been through a few pictures and I'm fairy sure it's a 'Chrono Cockpit (Early)', says it was produced in the mid 90s. Right then, off with the back of it!
http://www.breitlingsource.com/watch_details/Windr...
Edited by _Dan_ on Thursday 24th December 11:15
TheEnd said:
One thing that it should do is have the "running seconds" on one of the subdials, and the main second hand only runs with the chrono function
Well that pretty much is the final nail in the coffin! Main second hand runs as a normal second hand, sub dials don't appear to be doing a lot at all.Gassing Station | Watches | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff