Can you haggle on this?.. new Cartier Watch

Can you haggle on this?.. new Cartier Watch

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fizz876

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2,682 posts

211 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Hi

I am on the process of probably buying the following brand new. The RRP that is being quoted is aprrox £7200.

Its the PASHA XL CHRONOGRAPH WATCH

http://www.cartier.com/show-me/timepieces/w3108555...

Will Cartier entertain a discount or if I walk into Harrods or Selfridges will they be willing to negotiate.


P.S Any other suggestions for watches in this price range? It has to be brand new.

CraigW

12,248 posts

283 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I've always negotiated on new watches, cartier, bretiling, bvlgari. usually if you ask for a discount they'll give you one.

try all the places you have mentioned along with some of the watch specialists on Bond street, Wempe were good.

Also, for a watch of that value consider a short flight and see how much it is duty free.

Good luck.

Skyman

1,280 posts

225 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Knowing that you will lose 35-50% of the watch's RRP simply walking out the AD's door, should give a good sighter on the size of discount you should be seeking. Cartiers just do not retain their value, although that may not be material to you if you are looking to keep it for a long time.

fizz876

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Friday 7th May 2010
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I planning to keep it forever.. But any reason why they don't retain their value? Are they not considered good watches?
What other watches should I be looking at in this price range? I was considering a Breitling Navitimer.m

Skyman

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225 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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No criticism of the watch nor the brand, but with a few notable exceptions (Rolex being the obvious) expensive watches, especially those from so-called "fashion" brands do not keep their value. Breitling are not particularly good either to be fair. If it were me, I'd be looking at used watches of the flavour you prefer.

fizz876

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Friday 7th May 2010
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So are Cartier considered more of a fashion brand rather than a finw watch maker?

CraigW

12,248 posts

283 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I wouldnt say so, no

Skyman

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225 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Depends who you ask! Not a WiS watch though.

CraigW

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283 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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they may not be up there with the jlc's in terms of prestige and movement but they aren't a fashion brand in anyones book I don't think.

fizz876

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Skyman said:
Depends who you ask! Not a WiS watch though.
Sorry, excuse igonorance but what do you mean by WiS watch?

I know I should be more clued up about watches considering the amount being spent but this is going to be my wedding gift watch.

10JH

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195 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Why worry about value if your not going to sell it, If it's you wedding present you should get the one you like best.

fizz876

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Friday 7th May 2010
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10JH said:
Why worry about value if your not going to sell it, If it's you wedding present you should get the one you like best.
Its not about the value of the watch but more to ensure I'm getting a very good quality time piece.

CraigW

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JAGS

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209 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Try some of the Independent Jewellers around the country that are official dealers. In past experience, I've found they are usually willing to offer a better discount than Selfridges/Harrods etc in London.


(Edited for poor spelling)



Edited by JAGS on Friday 7th May 16:27

andy_s

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260 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Weeeeeeeeeell, Cartier started out as a watchmaker, he was a contemporary of Patek Philippes but his sons and grandsons expanded the empire and so today it's more a jewellery/fashion luxury brand, with inevitably the lose of focus on watches. But their movements are all from the top 'brand' houses - I'm not sure whether Cartier do in-house movements as well, I think not but happy to be corrected.

The more traditional designs like the Tank are probably considered 'watch' watches as opposed to the more extrovert or design led creations. I think it's fair to say that there's probably a view that you could get something more in terms of fine watchmaking if you spent your cash elsewhere, but as with all things, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it depends on your particular perception and what you want out of it.

I wouldn't like to rec'd anything, as all of this is out of my range anyway and tastes vary, but I'd certainly cast my eyes over Jaeger LeCoultre and Glashutte Original for example, before committing. You'd be assured of a fine piece of watchmaking.






cinque

833 posts

283 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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To the OP

Yes you can haggle on that and you should expect up to a 20% discount without to much of a problem.

I wouldn't purchase that particular model if you are looking to retain value. But if its a wedding gift then you should be choosing what you want first, with depreciation second......you want this as a lifer i'm guessing?

"If" you want to stick with the brand "and" you want to retain value then the classic Tank Francaise would be a better bet.

(and as a side note, if retaining value is what you're after then i would personally avoid buying new Breitlings).

10JH

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195 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Have you tried looking at online watch shops? Some of the US sites offer thousands off watches from your price range.

11SJC

643 posts

245 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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25% off easy



fizz876

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Friday 7th May 2010
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CraigW said:
Wow..I actually really like that! More suggestions like this please.

936ADL

417 posts

239 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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fizz876 said:
Hi

I am on the process of probably buying the following brand new. The RRP that is being quoted is aprrox £7200.

Its the PASHA XL CHRONOGRAPH WATCH

http://www.cartier.com/show-me/timepieces/w3108555...

Will Cartier entertain a discount or if I walk into Harrods or Selfridges will they be willing to negotiate.


P.S Any other suggestions for watches in this price range? It has to be brand new.
Just my opinion, but that's really not very nice. £7K too! Are you sure? That sort of budget opens up all sorts of options. You could buy 2 or 3 very nice watches with that sort of budget.

As i said just my opinion....