Replica watches
Discussion
cyberface said:
And *those* are watches that aren't even based on the same movement. Normally the easiest to spot of all. I wouldn't want the job of checking fake Breitlings and Tags that were *born* with 7750s inside, nor those Panerai thingies.
Have a look at one of the Panerai 7750's here - http://www.paneristi.com/reference/vendome/mvmt/op... - and tell me how easy that would be to fake. There is a lot of engraving to do. Sorry I can't embed the images: I think that they are ©.Riff Raff said:
Have a look at one of the Panerai 7750's here - http://www.paneristi.com/reference/vendome/mvmt/op... - and tell me how easy that would be to fake. There is a lot of engraving to do. Sorry I can't embed the images: I think that they are ©.
I've seen plenty with all that engraving done. So they are out there.AlexC1981 said:
When I bought this I didnt know that it was a 'homage' to the Tag Heuer Carrera. You can imagine my surprise when I first saw the TH in the Wrist Check thread!
Still, I don't believe TH do one all in black PVD.
I know the feeling! I bought this to add to the collection, thinking it was simply a nice design:Still, I don't believe TH do one all in black PVD.
...then I saw this in a shop!:
I feel a bit of a t
t, if I'm honest. Still like the CW though!okgo said:
They're completley different watches.
There appears to be more than a hint of similarity to say they are COMPLETELY different. I am assuming that the IWC was developed prior to the CW. If this assumption is correct, then it would be fair to also assume that the designer of the CW will have had a good look at the IWC. Yes, they are different, but there are too many styling cues for there not to have been influence.Dropped into this thread recently, and have also had a good nosey on RepGeeps. Interesting site indeed. I've never owned a Rep, but having a look on there certainly makes me want to have a closer look at one.
The two above are in a generic 'Flieger' style, ('Flieger='Flyer' as in German flying/pilot watches), there are a lot of makers who have watches in this style, the originals were made for the Luftwaffe by A. Lange and Sohne, IWC, Laco, Stowa and Wempe. IWC, Stowa, Laco(?) continue making them. The big 'onion' crown was designed for use with gloves and they are generally over-sized (esp as normal watches back in the day were 34-36mm; these were 45mm+)
Once you get past the over-all style though, they are very different watches as said above, see the power reserve dial on the IWC, date etc etc. aside from the actual movement and level of quality.
Once you get past the over-all style though, they are very different watches as said above, see the power reserve dial on the IWC, date etc etc. aside from the actual movement and level of quality.
Edited by andy_s on Friday 20th August 16:08
Edited by andy_s on Friday 20th August 16:09
I'm under no illusion that the the CW is anywhere near the quality of the IWC!!!! It's the style I'm refering to. Put it this way, if I sat at a bar and noticed someone next to me wearing the IWC version, I would stretch my sleeves down pronto!
But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
phil1979 said:
I'm under no illusion that the the CW is anywhere near the quality of the IWC!!!! It's the style I'm refering to. Put it this way, if I sat at a bar and noticed someone next to me wearing the IWC version, I would stretch my sleeves down pronto!
But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
Yes, what I meant is that most of the styling cues (triangle, hand style, crown style and yes, even the riveted 'flieger' strap') were all taken from the original 1940's watches made for the Luftwaffe from specifications laid down by them. 5 manufacturers made watches to those orders and they all looked pretty similar. It's similar to the army watches of WWII, there are about a dozen makers (JLC, Omega, Hamilton etc etc) that made basically the same watch. But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
The CW doesn't copy from the IWC directly, just from watches of that era, which a lot of makers do. As such, no need for any sleeves down!
Lange '43:
Stowa, original and modern:
Edited by andy_s on Friday 20th August 18:20
andy_s said:
phil1979 said:
I'm under no illusion that the the CW is anywhere near the quality of the IWC!!!! It's the style I'm refering to. Put it this way, if I sat at a bar and noticed someone next to me wearing the IWC version, I would stretch my sleeves down pronto!
But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
Yes, what I meant is that most of the styling cues (triangle, hand style, crown style and yes, even the riveted 'flieger' strap') were all taken from the original 1940's watches made for the Luftwaffe from specifications laid down by them. 5 manufacturers made watches to those orders and they all looked pretty similar. It's similar to the army watches of WWII, there are about a dozen makers (JLC, Omega, Hamilton etc etc) that made basically the same watch. But there are some blatant styling copies... the stitching and rivet things on the strap, the 12-marker arrow.... heck, even the CW logo is 2/3's of the way there!
The CW doesn't copy from the IWC directly, just from watches of that era, which a lot of makers do. As such, no need for any sleeves down!
Both of these pics from Chronomaster.
EnjyBenjy said:
Interestingly I've not seen any fakes of the digital/analogue stuff, Aerospace, Emergencies, B-1s, Bell & Ross BR-03 Aviation.
I guess they are bloody difficult to clone because of the quartz mechanism?
It is out there .. some better than others.I guess they are bloody difficult to clone because of the quartz mechanism?
There is on "better" Emergency with a reversed LCD display. But it's got the wrong bezel, and obviously none of the beacon gubbins.
The real cheap ones are just a normal black on clear digi display.
I don't like linking to rep sites .. but :
You can see how rough and bad that is. The antenna bit actually unscrews and is a compass.
I really like the B&R digi one. Very stealth.
el stovey said:
Didn't the Sinn boss used to work at IWC?
Indeed - "In 1994, Helmut Sinn sold the company to Lothar Schmidt, who constructed watches in the Porsche-Design Team in the 1970s and later on was authorized officer of the IWC. Among other things, Schmidt designed watch cases made from titanium for the IWC and after 1990 he was responsible for the rebuilding of the IWC brand A. Lange & Söhne."
my "replica" panerai is very nicely done and works perfectly. the omega copy is also very good, but the date doesnt move on which is a shame and you can feel the screw quality isnt very good when you undo the crown to adjust the time. both keep good time however and if damaged while working i havent lost anything as such. my original watches are kept in a1 condition then for when i go out.
the omega seamaster is a lovely looking watch and will push me to buy the original version at some point, as would the panerai copy.
the omega seamaster is a lovely looking watch and will push me to buy the original version at some point, as would the panerai copy.
Riff Raff said:
cyberface said:
And *those* are watches that aren't even based on the same movement. Normally the easiest to spot of all. I wouldn't want the job of checking fake Breitlings and Tags that were *born* with 7750s inside, nor those Panerai thingies.
Have a look at one of the Panerai 7750's here - http://www.paneristi.com/reference/vendome/mvmt/op... - and tell me how easy that would be to fake. There is a lot of engraving to do. Sorry I can't embed the images: I think that they are ©.Gassing Station | Watches | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff