Oris opinions

[andy_s]

Pesty said:

bry1975 said:

The Sinn Ezm 2 Hydros were always quite cool the hands seemed to magically float around the dial.

I wear mime almost exclusivly since I bought it
awsome watch wish I could afford an ezm1

Same with my EZM1, it's hardly ever off.
I'd love an EZM2 but as you said ages ago, they don't come up that often....

One day...

[hilly10]

I quite like both decisions decisions

[Adrian W]

bry1975 said:

Cool they really are lovely watches I've owned two in the past.

Water resistant to some daft depth like 5,000 metres or 500Kg/Cm2 of pressure.

I think you'll find the Deepsea holds the world record at 3900 metres

[andy_s]

Adrian W said:

bry1975 said:

Cool they really are lovely watches I've owned two in the past.

Water resistant to some daft depth like 5,000 metres or 500Kg/Cm2 of pressure.

I think you'll find the Deepsea holds the world record at 3900 metres

For actual depth achieved yes; but the dive rating of the oil filled EZM2 is 5,000m+ (it is limited by the quartz module inside the watch).

[Pesty]

andy_s said:

Adrian W said:

bry1975 said:

Cool they really are lovely watches I've owned two in the past.

Water resistant to some daft depth like 5,000 metres or 500Kg/Cm2 of pressure.

I think you'll find the Deepsea holds the world record at 3900 metres

For actual depth achieved yes; but the dive rating of the oil filled EZM2 is 5,000m+ (it is limited by the quartz module inside the watch).

the deapsea holds the record for a mechanical watch only

The way I heard it Sinn didnt bother testign further than 5km,

The bell and ross hydromax watch with oil in it like the ezm2 (as far as I can see is almost exactly the same) made by Sinn for them holds the record (for quartz) at 11000m IIRC

"Tests in hyperbaric tanks have proved the
watches’ resistance at 1110 bar, equivalent to 11100 metres."

i don't think they have actually sent one down like rolex did.

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 3rd October 21:11

[Adrian W]

I would imagine that the only way a watch could reach these depths is if it fell over the side, what is the deepest a human can go?

[andy_s]

NeMiSiS said:

Pesty said:

the deapsea holds the record for a mechanical watch only.

Does this Automatic get a look in anywhere, CX Swiss Military 20000FT 6100M

Thick beast


But I don't think it was submerged to 6,100m...was it? I'm not even sure the DeepSea was now...

[Stu R]

More likely stuck in a pressure chamber to replicate it, if that.

[Pesty]

NeMiSiS said:

Pesty said:

the deapsea holds the record for a mechanical watch only.

Does this Automatic get a look in anywhere, CX Swiss Military 20000FT 6100M

did that come after the deapsea? that must be the new record holder then.

whatever it is i like it

[CardShark]

andy_s said:

Adrian W said:

bry1975 said:

Cool they really are lovely watches I've owned two in the past.

Water resistant to some daft depth like 5,000 metres or 500Kg/Cm2 of pressure.

I think you'll find the Deepsea holds the world record at 3900 metres

For actual depth achieved yes; but the dive rating of the oil filled EZM2 is 5,000m+ (it is limited by the quartz module inside the watch).

So what's the difference between a watch that can achieve a certain depth to one that is 'rated' to a certain depth, if you see what I mean? My G, for example, has 200m on the face. What exactly does that refer to?

[Pesty]

appears it is

The 20’000 FEET by CX Swiss Military Watch™ reaches into a new, hitherto unthinkable dimension of water resistance and is the world’s first and only mechanical diving watch water resistant to an incredible 20’000 feet or 6’000 meters – certified!

lol clips of them shooting it and blowing it up on the web site

http://www.20000feet.com/?play=explosion

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 3rd October 21:39

[andy_s]

CardShark said:

andy_s said:

Adrian W said:

bry1975 said:

Cool they really are lovely watches I've owned two in the past.

Water resistant to some daft depth like 5,000 metres or 500Kg/Cm2 of pressure.

I think you'll find the Deepsea holds the world record at 3900 metres

For actual depth achieved yes; but the dive rating of the oil filled EZM2 is 5,000m+ (it is limited by the quartz module inside the watch).

So what's the difference between a watch that can achieve a certain depth to one that is 'rated' to a certain depth, if you see what I mean? My G, for example, has 200m on the face. What exactly does that refer to?

I was getting at the claim for the world record - I thought that was a record in terms of doing it in practise - there'd be little difference in performance between a pressure chamber and real depth so both would be equally valid bt there's more chest hair involved in actually doing it.

200m means it (or its generic construction) has been tested against an ISO standard that lets it put '200m water resistance' on it. That's broadly speaking a spell in a chamber racked up to depth+25% pressure.
In theory then, you should be OK having the watch exposed to the water at 200m deep.
In practise, because (correct me if I'm wrong) not every individual watch is so tested there is allowance for small variances in tolerance, ages of gaskets, peak-pressures if diving off a board etc that give a rough translation of what the theory means in practise -
Something like 30m - OK to wash hands in sink, 100m OK to go swimming and snorkelling, 200m OK for Scuba diving and so on.

The Sinn EZM2 and B&R Hydronaut are oil-filled (silicon type oil) that means the cases are incompressible (you can't compress a liquid). Inside the case though is a quartz module that is susceptible to pressure. Sinn thought they'd test to 5,000m and leave it at that as they estimated the capsule would be liable to break any time after that. B&R just carried on (they are essentially the same watch) until they'd got deeper than the Marianas Trench.

[CardShark]

So, basically, a fully fit sample of a particular watch should, in theory, achieve whatever depth is stated but it may not have actually been physically tested in water at that depth, and that allowances should be made for condition as to if that watch could reach that depth anyway. Cool

[bry1975]

I would imagine most of these mega deep watches would be tested in a very sturdy pressure chamber using hydraulics it's possible to achieve 700Bar pressure which is 7,139metres depth equivalent and even 1000Bar/10,199metres depth equivalent with a hand held hydraulic pump like below not cheap tho around £1000+ plus for the hand pump!




A suitable chamber for testing one watch at a time you WOULD have to beef up the fasteners for 1000Bar!

Edited by bry1975 on Sunday 3rd October 23:09

[BadRotorFinger]

Great suggestions all, Christ this is hard! Reckoning towards the Oris range, fabulous pieces.