Yachties, what sailboat at 35-40ft? Less than 5 y/o?

[dienamic]

robm3 said:

Well been a while and looked at loads of different options but yesterday put an offer in on one of these;



It's a Moody 45 DS. Apart from massive (and expensive) Sunseekers it's been the only boat my wife really liked. Although the looks are quite 'marmite' but we love it and that's what counts.


This is definitely the best view:

Lovely boat. Had a good look around the one at last years's LIBS. Like you say, the only downside is the forward view from the helm, but the rest of the boat was superb. You'll just have to spend more time sipping pimms on deck than sailing her!

[PauloV12V]

robm3 said:

Probably not for what we're after but my wife and I like traditional monohulls

I am sure you mus be delighted. Congrats!

Personally i love the darker hull..looks a little more class.

Happy sailing

[anonymous-user]

Very nice. Looks like a lot of accommodation. Although it's a nice boat, a 40.7 is actually quite small inside and not so nice for cruising. The Moody looks like a nice boat for just plonking the anchor in a bay and relaxing in the sun, which is what it's all about!

[Yachtworker]

I kept off this thread when I saw it, as I felt my thoughts on the Moody would be shot down. Just popped on to have a look and there it is, well done that man!! The 45DS is the least of a compromise you will ever have on the water.

Happy sailing.

[robm3]

robm3 said:

Well just to update, the asking price was $450k and I've offered $400k which I thought was reasonable when compared to market prices of other yachts. Just waiting to hear back now..

A week or so in and sadly he's not moved on price (despite everyone telling me it's a buyers market) so I've upped my offer to $415k.

Problem is I can get a new Beneteau 45 for $340k fully loaded and that's a lot of boat, so it's hard to justify the extra $100k for a 3 year old boat (and with 800 hours on motor) despite the niceness of the Deck Saloon.

Bit stuck now, will definitely hold my offer, any thoughts from the 'seasoned brokers' on this thread?

[ALawson]

Isn't Oz dealing with the whole recession better than Europe? British boats sales to euro buyers are going down as the pound strengthens. So 2nd hand sales in the uk could be suffering. Can you not source in the uk and ship to Oz? Or do taxes add up?

[robm3]

ALawson said:

Isn't Oz dealing with the whole recession better than Europe? British boats sales to euro buyers are going down as the pound strengthens. So 2nd hand sales in the uk could be suffering. Can you not source in the uk and ship to Oz? Or do taxes add up?

Taxes are 10%gst (vat), 5%import and $1,000 per ft shipping. So some motor cruiser bargains that make the numbers work but no Moody 45ds anywhere else at this price. Would consider a Beneteau 50 Sense but can't find any 'bargains'

[ALawson]

Are you looking for something sea worthy a globe crosser or something to make quickish progress between marinas/anchorages that looks good.

Your 340k less 15% is 290k, assume you are shipping a 45ft boat leaves 245k Aus which is what £165k.

What about something like this? http://www.oystermarine.com/brokerage/listing/83/a...

Having sailed on a few Oysters all things considered they are great boats, not everyones cup of tea.

Or these, located locally so should be tax and shipping free.

http://www.nautorswan.com/Brokerage/tabid/80/ctl/R...

http://www.nautorswan.com/Brokerage/tabid/80/ctl/R...

[Ayahuasca]

What about something a bit different from the normal boring white goods production line boats that dominate?



1970's Cheoy Lee Clipper 36 ketch, cheap as chips, saltier than Cap'n Birdeye, traditional long keel and split rig so good in heavy weather. That's would I would have anyway, the 42 foot version though.



That, or a Rhodes 27. Designed as a cruiser racing before the war, still going strong.




You will probably have your boat for a long time so might as well get a beautiful one.



Edited to add just seen the boat you got!

Edited by Ayahuasca on Friday 10th August 00:00

[Searider]

800 hours on a 3 year old boat is quite a lot.

[robm3]

Update...Offer on Moody was still pending so we went to the Sydney Boatshow, there we reached the obvious conclusion that a cat actually ticked all our boxes.

I've now put an offer in on a Lagoon 421

[PauloV12V]

Ayahuasca said:

What about something a bit different from the normal boring white goods production line boats that dominate?



1970's Cheoy Lee Clipper 36 ketch, cheap as chips, saltier than Cap'n Birdeye, traditional long keel and split rig so good in heavy weather. That's would I would have anyway, the 42 foot version though.



That, or a Rhodes 27. Designed as a cruiser racing before the war, still going strong.



Good choice on the 1970 boat! Looks classy whats the damage on that?


You will probably have your boat for a long time so might as well get a beautiful one.



Edited to add just seen the boat you got!

Edited by Ayahuasca on Friday 10th August 00:00

[Ayahuasca]

PauloV12V said:

Ayahuasca said:

What about something a bit different from the normal boring white goods production line boats that dominate?



1970's Cheoy Lee Clipper 36 ketch, cheap as chips, saltier than Cap'n Birdeye, traditional long keel and split rig so good in heavy weather. That's would I would have anyway, the 42 foot version though.



That, or a Rhodes 27. Designed as a cruiser racing before the war, still going strong.



Good choice on the 1970 boat! Looks classy whats the damage on that?


You will probably have your boat for a long time so might as well get a beautiful one.



Edited to add just seen the boat you got!

Edited by Ayahuasca on Friday 10th August 00:00

There is a 42 foot version for sale for USD 75k.

http://cheoyleeclipper42forsale.blogspot.com/