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Huntsman
Original Poster
3,601 posts
119 months
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I had to come to the USA for work for a week, hoping to crack on with mine as soon as I get back, might ask the taxi driver to drop me of at the boatyard, that'll please the wife!
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Huntsman
Original Poster
3,601 posts
119 months
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More than overdue an update, time has been rushing by, I have been to the USA for work, missed a further week due to jet lag, but now back on the job. I want to be running down the Solent to Yarmouth on the 24th May for Yarmouth Old Gaffers, so I have about 2 months and one week. Ahem... Warning, GRP content in this update!! Sorry. Centre console was an utter mess, the top had been chopped out with a badly fitting metal dash panel, hydraulic helm unit was leaking, guages had square bezels that I hated with a passion. Here it is, needing a lot of work.  We have the keel tented off with a dehumidifier inside, we opened up today, in the vacinity of the dehum its much better, in some areas we've even got onto the scale on the moisture meter, a second dehum going in there tomorrow. Interestingly, its pulled about 2 gallons of water out of the wood so far!!  I went a bit mad in the cockpit, no stone unturned, all loose bits (everything you can see!) are to be glued back in, few bits of rot to be chopped out and replaced.  For ten years, the nuts on the rudders were mild steel, they drove me mad, no amount of paint or grease stopped them rusting, so here we have brass replacements, I couldn't find bronze, with help from Scott we worked out the threads were 3/4 BSF 12 TPI, not much of that about these days.  Crack in the port hog to be routered out and a graving piece glued in both sides, plus some coach bolts from the top down into the bottom.  Interesting pic this one, see the frame in the centre of the shot heading out from the hog to the chine? Its loose. See the bit of missing frame and filler inboard of the hog? It came off in my hand. I knew all this needed doing it seems I was right.  Otherside of the cockpit.  Other frame under the engines, ply chopped out, new one going in tomorrow, hopefully tomorrow we'll be sticking the first bit of new timber into place, 15mm BS1088 ply.  My first effort at fibgreglass, lot of filler needed but should come up ok.  More to follow.
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Ayahuasca
16,065 posts
148 months
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Huntsman said: For ten years, the nuts on the rudders were mild steel, they drove me mad, no amount of paint or grease stopped them rusting, so here we have brass replacements, I couldn't find bronze[/img]  Brass and seawater don't mix well - galvanic corrosion dissolves the zink and you're left with metal with the appearance and consistency of the middle of a Crunchie bar.
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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I was expecting to see a shiny new console carved from solid oak!
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Huntsman
Original Poster
3,601 posts
119 months
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Ayahuasca said: Huntsman said: For ten years, the nuts on the rudders were mild steel, they drove me mad, no amount of paint or grease stopped them rusting, so here we have brass replacements, I couldn't find bronze[/img]  Brass and seawater don't mix well - galvanic corrosion dissolves the zink and you're left with metal with the appearance and consistency of the middle of a Crunchie bar. Brass is okay above the waterline, dezinification wont happen anytime soon and it'll all be well bonded into the anode.
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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Loads of these in the new gloss paint.   Painted boat on the hardstanding  Painted stern.  This is the hoist that will lift the old girl back in.  Sorry about the awful quality of the pics. Got a lot done today. Full gloss coat done above the waterline. Also I had all the insides opened up so that I could get a sprayer in with some cuprinol wood preserver in it. With the sprayer I managed to get behind the panelling inside. Lots done, but all I got were these lousy pictures. :/ Hopefully (as long as the boat that's blocking us in goes in on friday or monday) we'll be going back in the water on tuesday with an effing great bilge pump at the ready.  I'll get pics of that.
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db
571 posts
38 months
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That's a fine looking boat. Nice lines hull and topside
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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db said: That's a fine looking boat. Nice lines hull and topside Yes indeed. What kind is it?
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Huntsman
Original Poster
3,601 posts
119 months
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Simpo Two said: Yes indeed. What kind is it? She's looking good!
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IforB
4,952 posts
98 months
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She is a beautiful craft. Good work.
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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Thanks for the positive feedback.  it keeps you going on a project like this. I'll tell the background of the boat as I remember it. Details may be slightly wrong! But hopefully not too far out.  She was built in 1936 by Guy Shelley of Gosport. He built her for his Wife (Elizabeth) who is the first registered keeper of her. She seems to be a scaled down version of boats that were built at the same sort of time by Thorneycrofts of the IOW(iirc). We have contemporary magazines which show similar shaped vessels but at a length of 70+ feet, compared to this boat being about 40 feet (I forget exactly how big, possibly 38 foot, possibly 42 foot  ) She originally had two Scammell petrol engines driving through two Scammell gearboxes (one reverses the drive) to two props with only one rudder  at some point the engines were changed for two diesels from Fordson Major tractors. These are identical to the engines in my Dad's tractor apart from an extra drive coming out of the fuel pump which drives the extra water pump for the water/water radiator. She retains the Scammell gearboxes with a plate clutch for forwards drive and a contracting band for reverse. She was aquired by the ministry of supply during WW2 spending her time at Haverford West. She was one of three boats that de-gaussed the big ships before they came in to the port. She still has the War Office Pattern gauges in her dashboard to register the current between the boats. ClickAfter the war she passed between a few owners, one keeping her for over 30 years iirc. The previous owner was a carpenter and did some woodwork himself, but when she came out of the water for a survey (in my parent's ownership) she was found to need quite a bit of work. All the work below the waterline has been completed, even if it would probably last another 4 years. Above the waterline is not as bad, but it has been tidied up and will be sorted fully this coming winter. All repairs have been made in Iroco(sp) wood and the rear deck area was remade by the previous owner in the same wood. All repairs have been made with copper rivets where access was possible. My parents have owned her since november 2010 and have only sailed/motored (what is the correct term?) her once. This year we intend to enjoy her after being out of the water all last year. That info is correct as I remember it, apologies if any of it is slightly wrong.
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Rower
1,151 posts
135 months
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What is de-gaussing ?
Rower
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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Removing any magnetism from the (steel) ship so it doesn't trigger magnetic mines. Every ship has a magnetic signature... in the old days when rivets were hammered in I hear you could tell the latitude it was constructed at.
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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Simpo Two said: Removing any magnetism from the (steel) ship so it doesn't trigger magnetic mines. Every ship has a magnetic signature... in the old days when rivets were hammered in I hear you could tell the latitude it was constructed at. This. Click the link at the end of that paragraph and you'll find the wiki page for it.  I'll get photos of the interior next time I'm there and I'll point out the two dials.
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Huntsman
Original Poster
3,601 posts
119 months
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Rower said: What is de-gaussing ?
Rower You learn something everyday. Meanwhile on Playtime II we've even got some new wood fitted!!  Centre console now looking much better and a lots of sanded items ready to be undercoated, new battery boxes I made in plywood too as I couldn't stand the plastic ones.  Santa came very early this week in the shape of a new Morse control and new round bezels for the dash, its going to look soo much better.
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Simpo Two
54,274 posts
134 months
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You have insomnia and own a time machine...
Sherlock Simpo
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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Morse controls...how terribly modern. 
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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Good news: the good news is that you get one free lift a year as part of the marina package. Most people with bathtubs get them lifted in march and put back in the water in april every two years. Our boat got taken out of the water in Feb 2011 so our free lift is valid until the end of march 2012.
Bad news: the marina reckon they can't put the boat back in until april 3rd. This means we'll be charged for the lift. :/
Do you think they're trying it on?
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MOTORVATOR
3,330 posts
116 months
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Life Saab Itch
34,084 posts
57 months
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MOTORVATOR said: Yes The reason given was that our boat was blocked in by another on the hardstanding. I believe my Dad might be paying a visit to the marina today as we've heard via the jungle drums that the boat blocking us went back in on friday...  Part of the problem is that we want it to sit in the slings for a day just in case it takes on more water than the bilge pump can cope with. This can only be done on a tuesday as this is when the Marina staff have a day off. They previously agreed to come in tomorrow morning to put her in the water, then again at 4pm to see if she was ok to float to her berth. They've now set that back to next week. I'll let you know what my Dad finds... 
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